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53. Some will come to that conclusion --Just keep personal opinions OUT of
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  -Q: "Are Black people immoral?" A: "I'll leave that for others to conclude." Clarkie1  Mar-14-07 11:16 PM   #0 
  - "Is the Iraq War immoral?" A: "I'll leave that for others to conclude."  eleny   Mar-14-07 11:19 PM   #1 
  - What the hell are you talking about?  Erika   Mar-14-07 11:20 PM   #2 
  - I will clarify....see edited OP shortly. nt  Clarkie1   Mar-14-07 11:21 PM   #3 
  - right you are.  robinlynne   Mar-14-07 11:21 PM   #4 
  - Um, a bit fuzzy on the details  Canuckistanian   Mar-14-07 11:22 PM   #5 
  - Please see edited OP for clarification. nt  Clarkie1   Mar-14-07 11:23 PM   #6 
  - Must be referring to presidential hopeful Clinton on gays  nilram   Mar-14-07 11:29 PM   #11 
  - Are you using race as an example of an immutable characteristic? And homosexuality is also?  Ninja Jordan   Mar-14-07 11:26 PM   #7 
  - I do. It's who a person is a much as a color of their skin. nt  Clarkie1   Mar-14-07 11:27 PM   #8 
  - Then your example is beyond idiotic (nm).  Ninja Jordan   Mar-14-07 11:28 PM   #10 
     - Well...we clearly disagree.  Clarkie1   Mar-14-07 11:30 PM   #12 
     - Blacks were killed for trying to fucking read. I can SEE someone who is black.  Ninja Jordan   Mar-14-07 11:31 PM   #14 
        - You are making those comparisons not me.  Clarkie1   Mar-14-07 11:34 PM   #16 
        - Uh, you're comparing being gay to being black. Do you read what you post?  Ninja Jordan   Mar-14-07 11:36 PM   #19 
           - Being gay is as much a part of a person as their skin color,  Midlodemocrat   Mar-15-07 10:31 AM   #98 
           - Oh come on  treestar   Mar-15-07 11:47 AM   #104 
           - I didn't choose my skin color or my orientation.  mondo joe   Mar-15-07 12:51 PM   #113 
        - And gays have been killed for trying fucking BREATHE.  Lex   Mar-15-07 12:49 AM   #42 
        - yes. eom  nofurylike   Mar-15-07 12:52 AM   #45 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-15-07 01:58 AM   #62 
           - "Stay behind closed doors"  Big Pappa   Mar-15-07 02:28 AM   #64 
           - Sure it's wrong, but Rosie O'Donnell isn't frickin MLK  Ninja Jordan   Mar-15-07 02:59 AM   #68 
              - We  Big Pappa   Mar-15-07 03:48 AM   #70 
              - You should quit while you're behind... way behind.  Bonobo   Mar-15-07 04:21 AM   #72 
              - Sorry, but the civil rights struggle blacks face isn't comparable to gay marriage  Ninja Jordan   Mar-15-07 11:38 AM   #99 
                 - For fuck's sake no one sane is trying to make the comparison  Chovexani   Mar-15-07 03:35 PM   #137 
              - That's plain idiotic. "Rosie O'Donnel isn't frickin MLK"???  Lex   Mar-15-07 08:40 AM   #77 
              - Who the fuck said she was?  mondo joe   Mar-15-07 09:26 AM   #81 
              - Let's get real here. Does Coretta Scott King's opinion carry any weight here?  94114_San_Francisco   Mar-15-07 11:44 AM   #101 
                 - I love it... but nobody wants to touch this...  Flubadubya   Mar-15-07 11:58 AM   #107 
                 - The only problem is, there's a huge amount of classism and racism in the urban gay community.  Leopolds Ghost   Mar-15-07 03:13 PM   #128 
           - "Choose" to live a "lifestyle" behind closed doors?  Harvey Korman   Mar-15-07 04:11 AM   #71 
           - Wow. Your bigotry is showing.  haruka3_2000   Mar-15-07 09:21 AM   #78 
           - Bullshit. Gays are attacked for simply EXISTING.  mondo joe   Mar-15-07 09:23 AM   #79 
           - Um. So are blacks.  Leopolds Ghost   Mar-15-07 03:14 PM   #129 
              - Which proves they are alike. Duh.  mondo joe   Mar-15-07 03:23 PM   #132 
           - A. It's not a "lifestyle" it's an orientation--a facet of one's entire being  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Mar-15-07 12:09 PM   #109 
           - A black person can't pass as white? Are you serious?  uppityperson   Mar-15-07 12:59 PM   #115 
           - I can't decide if that's more offensive or stupid.  Starbucks Anarchist   Mar-15-07 03:24 PM   #133 
           - Gay people are killed all the time. Read the news.  yardwork   Mar-15-07 03:42 PM   #141 
        - heinous(!!!) crimes have been committed, and still are, against  nofurylike   Mar-15-07 12:50 AM   #43 
           - Excuse me, but when were gays "enslaved" as you say?  Tyrone Slothrop   Mar-15-07 09:48 AM   #87 
              - Try Nazi Germany. NT  mondo joe   Mar-15-07 09:50 AM   #89 
                 - I don't exactly consider that slavery  Tyrone Slothrop   Mar-15-07 10:14 AM   #94 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-15-07 12:47 PM   #111 
     - Idiotic, hm? That's nice.  yardwork   Mar-15-07 03:41 PM   #140 
  - Oh? And why not, exactly?  Canuckistanian   Mar-14-07 11:32 PM   #15 
  - No I don't think it's a choice. However, comparing it to blacks' 150 year civil rights struggle  Ninja Jordan   Mar-14-07 11:35 PM   #17 
  - Gays have struggled for civil rights too. It's not exclusive to blacks.  Lex   Mar-15-07 12:44 AM   #40 
  - Tell that to the thousands of gays & lesbians who have been  Coventina   Mar-15-07 11:45 AM   #103 
  - Indeed. Even some straight people have been killed  kenny blankenship   Mar-15-07 12:38 AM   #39 
  - Not civil rights movement - but sexual orientation, yes.  donco6   Mar-15-07 04:26 AM   #73 
  - I see your point and I am disgusted. She is going to have to do a gut-check.  Beausoir   Mar-14-07 11:28 PM   #9 
  - I know, and I respect Edwards for that.  Clarkie1   Mar-14-07 11:31 PM   #13 
  - It wasn't an equal rights question.  Bluedogvoter   Mar-14-07 11:36 PM   #20 
  - OK,I'll be the target here. Being of different races is not considered  napi21   Mar-14-07 11:36 PM   #18 
  - Homosexuality is not "learned, engendered, or otherwise developed."  Clarkie1   Mar-14-07 11:40 PM   #21 
  - Then you're saying it's an immutable characteristic--the ONLY relation it has to being black  Ninja Jordan   Mar-14-07 11:42 PM   #22 
  - The "only" relation to the civil rights struggle?  Kingshakabobo   Mar-15-07 12:18 AM   #38 
  - Different struggles for the same thing: legal equality.  mondo joe   Mar-15-07 09:27 AM   #82 
  - I see your point and I agree, it is not a choice, but as I see it, the difference  napi21   Mar-15-07 12:01 AM   #31 
  - What justification do you think slave owners used back in the day?  GloriaSmith   Mar-15-07 12:03 AM   #35 
  - I agree with your point 100%  GloriaSmith   Mar-14-07 11:46 PM   #23 
  - To answer Clarkie1- Hillary Clinton gave an awful answer  herbster   Mar-14-07 11:49 PM   #24 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-14-07 11:51 PM   #25 
  - I'll leave that for others to conclude.  Bluedogvoter   Mar-14-07 11:53 PM   #27 
     - Welcome to DU!  renate   Mar-15-07 02:36 AM   #66 
  - I haven't read other responses. I'll stick my head into the noose.  leftofthedial   Mar-14-07 11:51 PM   #26 
  - I'm not a supporter of HRC ( for president ) but  jaysunb   Mar-14-07 11:55 PM   #28 
  - exactly  SemperEadem   Mar-15-07 01:30 PM   #117 
  - Q: Are white people immoral? My A: ?????????? How the heck should I know ??  terisan   Mar-14-07 11:56 PM   #29 
  - Suprisingly, I think its a decent answer  champt10   Mar-15-07 12:01 AM   #32 
  - Interesting argument.  Bluedogvoter   Mar-15-07 12:03 AM   #34 
     - Thank you.  champt10   Mar-15-07 12:04 AM   #36 
  - Gitmo is a" tactical decision"  IChing   Mar-15-07 12:00 AM   #30 
  - not really a good analogy. Sexual orientation can't always be replaced by race  ComerPerro   Mar-15-07 12:02 AM   #33 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-15-07 12:07 AM   #37 
  - So when did you choose your sexual orientation?  GreenJ   Mar-15-07 12:49 AM   #41 
  - I think when talking in terms of...  champt10   Mar-15-07 12:51 AM   #44 
  - I've got news for you. Homosexuality is more than who you have sex with.  Lex   Mar-15-07 12:54 AM   #47 
  - Bullshit  ruggerson   Mar-15-07 12:57 AM   #49 
  - Being gay is not about sex  FreeState   Mar-15-07 01:01 AM   #51 
  - Sad  ends_dont_justify   Mar-15-07 01:03 AM   #52 
  - You are seriously confused about sexual orientation.  donco6   Mar-15-07 04:29 AM   #74 
  - Orientation is not limited to when you have sex. Let's educate you here.  mondo joe   Mar-15-07 09:28 AM   #83 
  - ummmmm.....  Neecy   Mar-15-07 10:00 AM   #92 
  - Ignorant post.  cwydro   Mar-15-07 12:05 PM   #108 
  - Fucking cowardly answer  GreenJ   Mar-15-07 12:53 AM   #46 
  - To some people  ends_dont_justify   Mar-15-07 12:57 AM   #48 
  - Q: "Are white males immoral?" A: "I'll leave that for others to conclude."  leftofthedial   Mar-15-07 12:58 AM   #50 
  - Some will come to that conclusion --Just keep personal opinions OUT of  rodeodance   Mar-15-07 01:07 AM   #53 
  - Good way to make a point, Clarkie1. What about HERMAPHRODITES???  Duppers   Mar-15-07 01:08 AM   #54 
  - I think the difference is - Some see gay as a verb while being black is a noun  The Straight Story   Mar-15-07 01:13 AM   #55 
  - And if so, they're ignorant about sexual orientation.  donco6   Mar-15-07 04:33 AM   #75 
  - Can you identify a gay person by just looking at them?  jeffrey_X   Mar-15-07 01:31 AM   #56 
  - There's plenty of people who'd disagree with you, with the topic of random anti gay violence NT  ends_dont_justify   Mar-15-07 01:34 AM   #57 
  - Does it matter?  FreeState   Mar-15-07 01:46 AM   #60 
  - Most of the time, yes.  donco6   Mar-15-07 04:34 AM   #76 
  - Ask people who are judged to be gay on sight. NT  mondo joe   Mar-15-07 09:25 AM   #80 
  - No. And can we identify a black person by just looking at them? NO!  Dora   Mar-15-07 10:16 AM   #95 
  - So most blacks can't be identified by looks alone?  Leopolds Ghost   Mar-15-07 03:19 PM   #131 
     - I never said anything about superiority, so don't waste your breath refuting it.  Dora   Mar-15-07 03:32 PM   #135 
  - You can't always identify Blacks by looking either.  GOTV   Mar-15-07 12:27 PM   #110 
  - It certainly isn't a 100% comparison  gollygee   Mar-15-07 01:14 PM   #116 
  - as much as I dislike Hillary, I find the substitution of the word "black"  Donnachaidh   Mar-15-07 01:43 AM   #58 
  - Hillary's lack of courage is the fucking point here, people!  Duppers   Mar-15-07 01:44 AM   #59 
  - You're absolutely correct.  greyl   Mar-15-07 03:07 AM   #69 
  - Except the question you're using is badly phrased.  politicat   Mar-15-07 01:56 AM   #61 
  - Homosexuality is not a quality  FreeState   Mar-15-07 02:19 AM   #63 
  - I'm pretty sure i've seen her use this response elsewhere  RedCappedBandit   Mar-15-07 02:32 AM   #65 
  - I don't know why politicians say stupid ass things like that.  Marr   Mar-15-07 02:49 AM   #67 
  - I'm afraid Hillary stepped in a big pile of shit with this one.  AndyA   Mar-15-07 09:31 AM   #84 
  - Point made....but why not start with Q: "Are white males immoral?"....  marmar   Mar-15-07 09:36 AM   #85 
  - The thread would be the same, pretty much  sleebarker   Mar-15-07 09:56 AM   #90 
  - It is a horrible answer, which she will need to change  goodhue   Mar-15-07 09:42 AM   #86 
  - Excellent post n/t  cboy4   Mar-15-07 09:50 AM   #88 
  - This is a bullshit post...  butterfly77   Mar-15-07 03:08 PM   #125 
  - I get your point, but what a clumsy way to make it...  Beelzebud   Mar-15-07 09:59 AM   #91 
  - To all of you who don't see gay rights as a civil rights issue:  verse18   Mar-15-07 10:04 AM   #93 
  - Clarkie's point is that  BoneDaddy   Mar-15-07 10:22 AM   #96 
  - Hillary was asked about "ality", not "als".  Donald Ian Rankin   Mar-15-07 10:25 AM   #97 
  - Is Hillary Clinton immoral?  Bornaginhooligan   Mar-15-07 11:40 AM   #100 
  - I agree HC answer to that question was weak and stupid  WI_DEM   Mar-15-07 11:45 AM   #102 
  - Immorality is based on behavior.  qwlauren35   Mar-15-07 11:47 AM   #105 
  - Arrrrrrrrrrgh  treestar   Mar-15-07 11:49 AM   #106 
  - Note to Hillary: The correct answer is "no"  gollygee   Mar-15-07 12:50 PM   #112 
  - This question is stupid.  cat_girl25   Mar-15-07 12:53 PM   #114 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-15-07 01:31 PM   #118 
     - It's still stupid.  cat_girl25   Mar-15-07 02:10 PM   #120 
        - Whom are you referencing?  Ninja Jordan   Mar-15-07 02:55 PM   #121 
           - Now now now, you must know it is against DU rules to directly state whom.  uppityperson   Mar-15-07 03:01 PM   #122 
           - If the accusation is false.  Ninja Jordan   Mar-15-07 03:02 PM   #123 
              - Who is being accused?  uppityperson   Mar-15-07 03:08 PM   #124 
                 - I guess we'll never know  Ninja Jordan   Mar-15-07 03:09 PM   #126 
                    - Must be "deleted".  uppityperson   Mar-15-07 03:13 PM   #127 
                    - We'll leave that up to others to conclude  Moochy   Mar-15-07 03:35 PM   #136 
           - I'm not referencing anyone. I was replying to someone.  cat_girl25   Mar-15-07 03:14 PM   #130 
           - Why are you curious?  Bornaginhooligan   Mar-15-07 03:36 PM   #138 
  - really, really stupid post  paulk   Mar-15-07 01:32 PM   #119 
  - Not as stupid as it taking 134 tries to get the words "homosexuality is not immoral" out.  BlooInBloo   Mar-15-07 03:26 PM   #134 
     - I've never found much use for morality  paulk   Mar-15-07 03:39 PM   #139 
  - Locking  OhioBlues   Mar-15-07 03:45 PM   #142 
 

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