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49. And I find this disturbing, re: Obama's choice of Rubin as an economic adviser >>
who oversaw that repeal as well. It's a friggin revolving door!

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Just days after the (Clinton) administration (including the Treasury Department) agrees to support the repeal, Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, the former co-chairman of a major Wall Street investment bank, Goldman Sachs, raises eyebrows by accepting a top job at Citigroup as Weill's chief lieutenant. The previous year, Weill had called Secretary Rubin to give him advance notice of the upcoming merger announcement. When Weill told Rubin he had some important news, the secretary reportedly quipped, "You're buying the government?"

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  -Apparently the fate of the entire world economy rests on some % of bad US home mortgages. Hannah Bell  Sep-29-08 03:21 AM   #0 
  - Hey, if you're going to rec, kick it too!  Hannah Bell   Sep-29-08 03:27 AM   #1 
  - am kick  Hannah Bell   Sep-29-08 09:05 AM   #2 
  - The fate of the entire world economy rests on...  yibbehobba   Sep-29-08 09:10 AM   #3 
  - so now that investments become a venture stake in willingness of middle class to remain silent  Supersedeas   Sep-29-08 10:09 AM   #5 
  - Only 3% of mortgages are bad  avaistheone1   Sep-29-08 07:17 PM   #37 
     - But Mr. Risk -- Paulsen -- DOES understand them.  lostnfound   Sep-30-08 05:58 AM   #53 
     - derivatives and credit swaps...hmmm. Sounds like ENRON, again.  elehhhhna   Sep-30-08 08:41 AM   #54 
  - Good point  debbierlus   Sep-29-08 09:12 AM   #4 
  - Someone answered those questions this morning on one of the news shows.. I  K Gardner   Sep-29-08 10:11 AM   #6 
  - smaller than 700 billion?  Hannah Bell   Sep-29-08 01:39 PM   #7 
  - Some answers  HamdenRice   Sep-29-08 01:53 PM   #8 
  - do you have a link for the numbers, hamden?  Hannah Bell   Sep-29-08 03:02 PM   #9 
  - Here's part of the problem - no one knows which ones are which.  johnaries   Sep-29-08 03:09 PM   #13 
  - "a impossible task itself unless you have a crystal ball" -- that's wrong  HamdenRice   Sep-29-08 03:16 PM   #15 
  - Thanks for the correction. Part of that perception comes  johnaries   Sep-29-08 03:27 PM   #19 
  - Not exactly.  girl gone mad   Sep-30-08 08:51 AM   #56 
  - doesn't matter, buy up the last 10 years, refinance the good ones & sell the bad ones.  Hannah Bell   Sep-29-08 03:26 PM   #18 
  - I think it's been considered, but it's not on the table now  HamdenRice   Sep-29-08 03:22 PM   #17 
     - if they wouldn't sell, that's their lookout. my concern is that taxpayers  Hannah Bell   Sep-29-08 03:34 PM   #22 
        - That's why this bill included provisions that in addition to the "bad"  johnaries   Sep-29-08 03:40 PM   #26 
           - have you read the 110 pages or are you doing soundbites?  Hannah Bell   Sep-29-08 03:51 PM   #27 
              - Examples, please. nt  johnaries   Sep-29-08 04:25 PM   #30 
              - the soundbites from our leaders, e.g. no golden parachutes.  Hannah Bell   Sep-29-08 07:14 PM   #36 
                 - First of all, my post was about receiving stocks, not about  johnaries   Sep-29-08 08:53 PM   #42 
                    - yes, i've read it. have you? it doesn't ban golden parachutes. the language is written  Hannah Bell   Sep-29-08 10:16 PM   #43 
                       - As a matter of fact, I have it pulled up right now.  johnaries   Sep-29-08 10:35 PM   #44 
                          - for whom & during what time frame, that's how.  Hannah Bell   Sep-29-08 11:12 PM   #46 
                             - For the Top 5 Executives and during the time that the Secretary  johnaries   Sep-29-08 11:30 PM   #47 
                                - i read it. it mandates:  Hannah Bell   Sep-30-08 12:49 AM   #51 
                                - then there's this:  Hannah Bell   Sep-30-08 12:57 AM   #52 
                                - Again, it only applies to companies that are being aided  johnaries   Sep-30-08 09:56 AM   #62 
                                   - nice spin. but nothing affects existing contracts, nothing affects compensation  Hannah Bell   Sep-30-08 03:54 PM   #63 
                                - I HOPE you read it, since I had to post it for you in another thread.  johnaries   Sep-30-08 09:42 AM   #60 
                                - The fact that it only applies to the top 5..  girl gone mad   Sep-30-08 08:54 AM   #57 
                                   - I think that is a minor point, considering it's usually the top 5 who  johnaries   Sep-30-08 09:36 AM   #59 
              - OK, tell me which part of this is the "lie"  johnaries   Sep-29-08 05:07 PM   #31 
                 - It sounds nice, but..  girl gone mad   Sep-30-08 09:01 AM   #58 
                    - That is a battle for another day. This is an emergency bill.  johnaries   Sep-30-08 09:51 AM   #61 
  - They shot themselves with their intricate and unregulated investment vehicles.  Roland99   Sep-29-08 03:05 PM   #11 
  - Yep..it's the other "troubled assets" as well. n/t  gopbuster   Sep-29-08 03:20 PM   #16 
  - no, they shot YOU in the foot - ON PURPOSE.  Hannah Bell   Sep-29-08 03:35 PM   #24 
     - I'm rather lucky. I'm quite insulated from the effects...so far.  Roland99   Sep-29-08 05:22 PM   #33 
  - Right, It's like dominoes.  johnaries   Sep-29-08 03:11 PM   #14 
     - if the dominoes begin with bad mortgages, buy the mortgages, don't  Hannah Bell   Sep-29-08 03:28 PM   #20 
        - Too late. The other dominoes have already started dropping.  johnaries   Sep-29-08 03:36 PM   #25 
           - they've been dropping for 2 years. & if the milk's spilt, then this bailout won't put it back in  Hannah Bell   Sep-29-08 03:55 PM   #28 
              - Simply buying up the mortgages won't help the other problems and  johnaries   Sep-29-08 05:12 PM   #32 
                 - Why not? Just guarantee the loan payments.  mhatrw   Sep-29-08 06:06 PM   #34 
                    - Because it is no longer about the mortgages. It's now about  johnaries   Sep-29-08 06:23 PM   #35 
                       - How about we try to fix the underlying cause here as well rather than just  mhatrw   Sep-29-08 08:34 PM   #39 
  - Well done, Hannah! Bravo! n/t  ColbertWatcher   Sep-29-08 03:03 PM   #10 
  - Why do you hate "Murica?  Blue State Native   Sep-29-08 03:07 PM   #12 
  - cause murica hates me & mine.  Hannah Bell   Sep-29-08 03:58 PM   #29 
  - and we know where those bad mortgages are,  leftofthedial   Sep-29-08 03:29 PM   #21 
  - Is it bad? Yes it is. Are we guilty? No. Do you understand? Somewhat  BelgianMadCow   Sep-29-08 03:35 PM   #23 
  - 4-how much did the banks recoup from the PMI?  tjwash   Sep-29-08 07:23 PM   #38 
  - They leveraged it to bet big that housing prices would keep increasing. n/t  mhatrw   Sep-29-08 08:39 PM   #40 
  - details that will have to wait until after the Wall Street bailout to discuss  Supersedeas   Oct-01-08 11:26 AM   #65 
  - A humble opinion...  mellowfellowO   Sep-29-08 08:49 PM   #41 
  - Thank you for that  kgfnally   Sep-30-08 12:20 AM   #50 
     - You're Welcome...  mellowfellowO   Oct-01-08 11:00 AM   #64 
  - Great post  2speak   Sep-29-08 10:47 PM   #45 
  - I could explain it all for you  zlt234   Sep-29-08 11:31 PM   #48 
  - And I find this disturbing, re: Obama's choice of Rubin as an economic adviser >>  Dover   Sep-29-08 11:57 PM   #49 
  - Not the mortgages, so much as the mortgage backed securities..  girl gone mad   Sep-30-08 08:44 AM   #55 
 

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