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Mon Sep-29-08 10:18 AM
Response to Reply #29 |
| -Bailout Bill: Congress Commands AUTOMATIC STAY of court-PROVEN Constitutional Violations!!!!!! |
Land Shark |
Sep-29-08 12:07 AM |
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I'm ready to declare our entire government a terrorist organization. n/t |
magellan |
Sep-29-08 12:11 AM |
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Wow! |
endthewar |
Sep-29-08 02:04 AM |
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They say the same of you |
BelgianMadCow |
Sep-29-08 10:45 AM |
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They have for some time |
magellan |
Sep-29-08 12:25 PM |
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They're sure acting like mobsters will this bill. "Put it all in this bag, see,...." |
TBF |
Sep-29-08 04:59 PM |
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Why would something |
Mojorabbit |
Sep-29-08 12:11 AM |
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POWER GRAB |
Zhade |
Sep-29-08 12:13 AM |
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Because the jig is up, the Fed Reserve and related banking system is unconstitutional and we're |
54anickel |
Sep-29-08 12:17 AM |
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The Federal Reserve IS unconstitutional!!! And so is this fucking bill!!! |
loudsue |
Sep-29-08 11:24 AM |
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Thank you LS. |
BushDespiser12 |
Sep-29-08 12:15 AM |
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What kind of scenario does this paint practically speaking? |
mzmolly |
Sep-29-08 12:21 AM |
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This applies to participating companies. |
Beregond2 |
Sep-29-08 12:22 AM |
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Nothing can make violation of Constitutional rights OK |
Land Shark |
Sep-29-08 12:32 AM |
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Constitutional rights are the one thing protected aren't they? |
jbnow |
Sep-29-08 02:01 AM |
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exactly, but the point is that it's given, then immediately taken away via Stay |
Land Shark |
Sep-29-08 09:15 AM |
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For three days. nt |
Marie26 |
Sep-29-08 09:16 AM |
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Wrong. Get a better lawyer. "unless the Secretary SEEKS a stay within three days" |
Land Shark |
Sep-29-08 10:13 AM |
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The automatic stay expires in three days. |
Marie26 |
Sep-29-08 10:19 AM |
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It isn't explicitly stated as such. It could be used against the individuals |
Better Today |
Sep-29-08 12:36 AM |
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"Taxpayer Standing" might be the issue you're getting at here.... |
2 Much Tribulation |
Sep-29-08 12:41 AM |
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I'm getting used to my new rogue nation status. |
billyoc |
Sep-29-08 12:24 AM |
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Feels more like China everyday |
clear eye |
Sep-29-08 01:02 AM |
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Oh, I'm sure they didn't mean anything BAD by it. |
dailykoff |
Sep-29-08 12:36 AM |
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... |
scarletwoman |
Sep-29-08 12:39 AM |
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Another FISA gift pak, this time for Wall Street. |
dailykoff |
Sep-29-08 12:54 AM |
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Did these folks learn NOTHING about the consequences of rash acts on incomplete data? |
Stop Cornyn |
Sep-29-08 12:45 AM |
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Even Dodd's bill was lacking in real oversight. |
clear eye |
Sep-29-08 12:56 AM |
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If Congress is in violation of the Constitution |
edwardian |
Sep-29-08 01:29 AM |
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Acts in violation of the Constitution are VOID, that's true. |
2 Much Tribulation |
Sep-29-08 01:35 AM |
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If it's unconstitutional, |
Marie26 |
Sep-29-08 09:18 AM |
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this plan is a no-go |
barbtries |
Sep-29-08 05:51 AM |
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"Automatic Stay" is language from the bankruptcy code. |
VoodooGuru |
Sep-29-08 06:03 AM |
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Since U brought it up, I was an atty for MORE than 12 years, till i got sick |
Land Shark |
Sep-29-08 07:07 AM |
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Not so bad and more typical than you think |
D-Lee |
Sep-29-08 06:23 AM |
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D-Lee, welcome to DU - 4 posts so far, eh? Lucky you got to post! |
Land Shark |
Sep-29-08 07:11 AM |
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In short: If you liked the Patriot Act |
marekjed |
Sep-29-08 06:27 AM |
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OVERSIGHT IS A DINOSAUR. Extinct. Dead. Non-existent since 9-11. And it wasn't so great before then. |
bertman |
Sep-29-08 08:08 AM |
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The stay is lifted in 3 days |
Marie26 |
Sep-29-08 08:42 AM |
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trial judges can stay their own orders pending appeal, if merited. This is different |
2 Much Tribulation |
Sep-29-08 09:01 AM |
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Probably |
Marie26 |
Sep-29-08 09:11 AM |
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one thing you're missing is the constitution's "contracts clause" |
Land Shark |
Sep-29-08 10:17 AM |
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That has nothing to do w/this bill, at all. |
Marie26 |
Sep-29-08 11:53 AM |
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No, once the govt (secretary) makes a contract it achieves Constitutional |
Land Shark |
Sep-29-08 04:53 PM |
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Yet it still makes no sense... |
Marie26 |
Sep-29-08 04:57 PM |
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Sorry you don't understand, but I'll bet they're coming back for more |
Land Shark |
Sep-29-08 11:48 PM |
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Thanks Marie. |
mzmolly |
Sep-29-08 10:18 AM |
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Bookmarked for further reading. |
ThePowerofWill |
Sep-29-08 08:45 AM |
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I hope you sent this out to the papers or something |
mlevans |
Sep-29-08 09:15 AM |
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Nothing stopping anybody else from doing so, I'm swamped, but will try |
Land Shark |
Sep-29-08 09:17 AM |
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Damn these Corporate Democrats who vote for this theft against the Middle Class. |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-29-08 11:54 AM |
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I don't know. Are they just scared, yet again? |
Land Shark |
Sep-29-08 02:45 PM |
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Request for feedback |
snot |
Sep-29-08 04:37 PM |
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response to this |
Land Shark |
Sep-29-08 05:05 PM |
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So where did you go to lawschool? |
depakid |
Sep-29-08 04:39 PM |
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check your PMs |
Land Shark |
Sep-29-08 05:06 PM |
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Cool |
depakid |
Sep-29-08 05:25 PM |
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Our Democratic Congress bought into this. |
Thothmes |
Sep-29-08 05:38 PM |
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"Farcical" won't cut it. Just the thought that the Dems countenanced that is a truly surreal |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Sep-29-08 05:52 PM |
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excellent well thought out post. KR nt |
ooglymoogly |
Sep-29-08 08:46 PM |
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I like a person with a sig line that stresses the appropriate weight of principles! nt |
Land Shark |
Sep-29-08 11:45 PM |
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It appears that we may have narrowly avoided turning over our govt over to a band of terrorists. |
BrklynLiberal |
Sep-30-08 02:22 PM |
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If the details of the language of this bill can argued over this much, it should not be passed. |
BrklynLiberal |
Sep-30-08 02:28 PM |
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Does anyone in DC read these bills besides Kucinich? |
redqueen |
Sep-30-08 02:42 PM |
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That is an excellent question.....The video I posted just below this is essential viewing. |
BrklynLiberal |
Sep-30-08 03:16 PM |
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You MUST check out what Dennis Kucinich has to say about this. |
BrklynLiberal |
Sep-30-08 03:15 PM |
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