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8. This is very troubling. It is amazing that Congress voted for this.
Yet Congress can not bother to investigate caging, and election/voter machine fraud.
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  -This is ILLEGAL: 1st Brigade Army Combat Team to begin US tour on Oct 1 eowyn_of_rohan  Sep-23-08 08:47 PM   #0 
  - Do you think this force is being sent here because the Bush admin  avaistheone1   Sep-23-08 08:50 PM   #1 
  - All are possibilities  eowyn_of_rohan   Sep-23-08 08:56 PM   #3 
  - Operation Garden Plot is activated, say goodbye to your freedom  StopTheNeoCons   Sep-23-08 10:03 PM   #22 
     - I wrote unknown news about  undergroundpanther   Sep-23-08 10:39 PM   #31 
     - Op Garden Plot AKA Civil Disturbance Plan 55 2 - here is the Army Field Manual  eowyn_of_rohan   Sep-24-08 04:24 PM   #120 
     - Hmmph! I guess the National Guard wasn't good enough.  Miss Chybil   Sep-23-08 11:13 PM   #37 
     - Yes, the John Warner Act essentially overturned Posse Comitatus  Undercurrent   Sep-24-08 01:11 AM   #50 
     - Or - for any reason deemed a threat to the US dictator, Bush.  dchill   Sep-24-08 01:34 AM   #57 
     - I don't believe the trigger will be pulled until Obama is President  clear eye   Sep-24-08 02:04 AM   #59 
     - I'm afraid they'll get him during the lame duck period. Last month I'd've thought that was nuts.  readmoreoften   Sep-24-08 05:23 AM   #69 
     - The sad thing is that none of this had to happen.  clear eye   Sep-24-08 10:46 AM   #106 
     - Exactly-Palin Wired For Brutality  glinda   Sep-24-08 12:33 PM   #112 
     - I'd have to agree with that analysis.  Naturyl   Sep-24-08 04:36 PM   #123 
     - If Barack is President...  Blarch   Sep-24-08 02:47 PM   #117 
     - sure that's still in effect? I thought that was rescinded last year. n/t  lynnertic   Sep-24-08 07:07 AM   #79 
     - the provision you refer to was repealed restoring posse comitatus law  onenote   Sep-25-08 07:34 AM   #138 
     - Keep in mind that "civil unrest" can be staged by the gov.  dixiegrrrrl   Sep-24-08 09:18 AM   #89 
     - Yes. Not only do they provide instigators to commit acts of violence  eowyn_of_rohan   Sep-24-08 09:22 AM   #90 
     - Bush as Dictator - but called "Protector of Democracy"  Porschenut1066   Sep-24-08 09:50 AM   #98 
  - It sounds like Cheney expects the economic Depression created by the bailout's destruction  clear eye   Sep-24-08 01:38 AM   #58 
  - Yes.  midnight   Sep-24-08 05:45 AM   #73 
  - "our mission is to take care of citizens at home"  TomInTib   Sep-23-08 08:52 PM   #2 
  - Does Olbermann know about this? I assume so  eowyn_of_rohan   Sep-23-08 08:58 PM   #4 
  - probably, but I e-mailed Rachel too. n/t  dana_b   Sep-24-08 10:42 AM   #105 
  - I would like a definition of "citizen" as well  Generic Brad   Sep-23-08 09:57 PM   #19 
  - Yeah. Whenever they speak, they seem to describe us as the enemy. n/t  clear eye   Sep-24-08 02:37 AM   #60 
  - "our mission is to take care of citizens at home"  JohnyCanuck   Sep-24-08 07:55 AM   #82 
  - Yes, they're just here to "help" us  Sabriel   Sep-24-08 10:35 AM   #103 
  - Interesting that they use a unit that has spent more than 50% of their time in Iraq.  peace13   Sep-23-08 09:04 PM   #5 
  - exactly  eowyn_of_rohan   Sep-23-08 09:09 PM   #7 
  - Yes!  undergroundpanther   Sep-23-08 10:45 PM   #33 
  - ...and they have been told that we didn't support the troops by doing another Vietnam!  Hestia   Sep-23-08 11:53 PM   #41 
     - Obama is on record as saying that he will continue to give gov't contracts to Blackwater  clear eye   Sep-24-08 02:56 AM   #62 
  - These guys are trained and have learned  shadowknows69   Sep-24-08 08:20 AM   #84 
  - What about this?  stillcool47   Sep-23-08 09:08 PM   #6 
  - This is very troubling. It is amazing that Congress voted for this.  avaistheone1   Sep-23-08 09:12 PM   #8 
  - is is troubling, and stunning  eowyn_of_rohan   Sep-23-08 09:41 PM   #11 
  - is Congress aware of the NSPD-51  alyce douglas   Sep-23-08 09:52 PM   #14 
  - That was rescinded  Marie26   Sep-23-08 09:44 PM   #12 
  - Wow - the plot thickens. Thank you  eowyn_of_rohan   Sep-23-08 10:21 PM   #28 
     - Sure  Marie26   Sep-23-08 10:41 PM   #32 
        - just checked too  Snazzy   Sep-24-08 02:43 AM   #61 
        - So that supports the "illegal" in the OP title. n/t  clear eye   Sep-24-08 03:02 AM   #63 
           - Totally  Marie26   Sep-24-08 07:52 AM   #81 
              - We deserve answers from Congress - this issue needs a bright light shined upon it  eowyn_of_rohan   Sep-24-08 08:09 AM   #83 
  - Wasn't there a signing statement that did away with Posse Comitatus after Katrina?  Hestia   Sep-23-08 11:54 PM   #42 
  - Well, let's just hope Obama is president and Democrats are majority!  bambino   Sep-24-08 10:30 AM   #102 
     - Which means as many of us as possible must help locally to assure voters  eowyn_of_rohan   Sep-25-08 08:33 AM   #140 
  - Pieces in place for October surprise?  Graybeard   Sep-23-08 09:33 PM   #9 
  - Russian retaliation for provocation, and start of new military action  clear eye   Sep-24-08 03:08 AM   #64 
  - Roger Cloutier must be one of the fucking stupidest things on the planet.  The Stranger   Sep-23-08 09:38 PM   #10 
  - He sounds brainwashed - if he actually said this  eowyn_of_rohan   Sep-23-08 09:45 PM   #13 
  - I sure hope they don't "help" us like they "helped" the Iraqis  NNN0LHI   Sep-23-08 09:53 PM   #15 
  - and if those soldiers are suffering from any mental health  alyce douglas   Sep-23-08 09:56 PM   #18 
  - October? Surprise!  rucky   Sep-23-08 09:54 PM   #16 
  - alrighty then!  shanti   Sep-24-08 01:19 AM   #54 
  - Link is Dead  Hatfield   Sep-23-08 09:55 PM   #17 
  - google cache:  Marie26   Sep-23-08 10:02 PM   #21 
  - gone too! At least on my heavily firewalled computer  eowyn_of_rohan   Sep-23-08 10:05 PM   #23 
     - Looks like  Marie26   Sep-23-08 10:08 PM   #24 
        - yep-that works  eowyn_of_rohan   Sep-23-08 10:18 PM   #27 
  - It was in the Army Times and on Democracy Now.  readmoreoften   Sep-23-08 10:28 PM   #30 
  - This has happened on every thread about this deployment. Here:  Texas Explorer   Sep-24-08 01:21 AM   #55 
     - When did we become a "homeland" anyway?  Naturyl   Sep-24-08 04:42 PM   #124 
        - just more Nazi talking points! nt  dgibby   Sep-24-08 07:37 PM   #126 
  - As we have seen with the FISA vote and telco immunity..  Fumesucker   Sep-23-08 09:57 PM   #20 
  - I think the key words here are "uses" and "execute the laws"  Canuckistanian   Sep-23-08 10:14 PM   #25 
  - It already happened  undergroundpanther   Sep-23-08 10:56 PM   #35 
     - whoa, undergroundpanther, please elaborate. Is he a Mooslem? Or just a terrist?  bertman   Sep-23-08 11:17 PM   #38 
        - neither  undergroundpanther   Sep-24-08 03:59 PM   #119 
           - Well, you know, everything changed on 9-11, so I think it's SOP now that they send out combat-ready  bertman   Sep-24-08 06:13 PM   #125 
              - I know  undergroundpanther   Sep-25-08 02:40 AM   #132 
  - Garden Plot has been around since the 60's  dmesg   Sep-23-08 10:16 PM   #26 
  - More from the Army Times blurb - does this help?  eowyn_of_rohan   Sep-23-08 10:23 PM   #29 
  - Scary stuff. Very scary.  BrklynLiberal   Sep-23-08 10:50 PM   #34 
  - Coincidence?  misskittysister   Sep-23-08 10:56 PM   #36 
  - K&R  TxBlue   Sep-23-08 11:21 PM   #39 
  - Annex A, Section B calls for the DEADLY FORCE to be used against ANY EXTREMIST OR DISSIDENT  bertman   Sep-23-08 11:24 PM   #40 
  - Is this on Kos? Anybody post it on the Obama blog,  clear eye   Sep-24-08 01:04 AM   #49 
  - they mention peaceful protests that are disrupted by infiltrators also  bedazzled   Sep-24-08 06:19 AM   #75 
  - and guess what - they often provide the infiltrators  eowyn_of_rohan   Sep-24-08 06:53 AM   #77 
  - Kent State X1000  shadowknows69   Sep-24-08 08:21 AM   #85 
  - Some pics of the non-lethal weaponry they might use  low_phreaq   Sep-24-08 12:09 AM   #43 
  - Do they really want to raise the stakes to the point where they risk  guruoo   Sep-24-08 12:25 AM   #44 
  - If they think they can profit from it, I wouldn't put it past them.  low_phreaq   Sep-24-08 12:50 AM   #46 
     - Profit? They can't take it with them.  guruoo   Sep-24-08 01:12 AM   #51 
        - Unless they take the money and run... n/t  low_phreaq   Sep-24-08 01:18 AM   #53 
           - Run where? Dubai? UAE? Paraguay?  guruoo   Sep-24-08 10:17 AM   #100 
  - Thank you!  dgibby   Sep-24-08 12:49 AM   #45 
  - A YouTube video on this  low_phreaq   Sep-24-08 12:54 AM   #47 
  - It really does sound like preparation for a fascist takeover  clear eye   Sep-24-08 12:59 AM   #48 
  - war on drugs set the precedent  reggie the dog   Sep-24-08 01:16 AM   #52 
  - Executive Order of September 11, 2008  low_phreaq   Sep-24-08 01:28 AM   #56 
  - "revise an order of succession"  liberalla   Sep-24-08 03:56 AM   #66 
  - and they get only 30 days to do it - deadline is 2 1/2 weeks from now.  eowyn_of_rohan   Sep-24-08 05:24 AM   #70 
  - First of all, it is directed at agencies, the government is not an agency  MiniMe   Sep-24-08 06:38 AM   #76 
  - Posse Comitatus is so Passe  tavalon   Sep-24-08 03:43 AM   #65 
  - ALL PART OF THE PLAN, PEOPLE....  FlyingSquirrel   Sep-24-08 04:04 AM   #67 
  - K & R Crowd control with non-lethal weapons. Wonder why the need to practice that on Americans  OakCliffDem   Sep-24-08 05:07 AM   #68 
  - "Non-lethal". Well except when they tase you until your heart stops. Hit you in the eye with a bean  readmoreoften   Sep-24-08 05:29 AM   #71 
     - I was thinking more along the lines of what happens when Bush suspends the elections  OakCliffDem   Sep-24-08 05:43 AM   #72 
        - Oh yes. Clearly.  readmoreoften   Sep-24-08 05:56 AM   #74 
        - Uh, you forgot pandemic flu!  dgibby   Sep-24-08 09:38 AM   #94 
        - Thank you. You nailed it.  clear eye   Sep-25-08 12:46 AM   #131 
        - I wish I could remember where I read it, but Cheney has said that  clear eye   Sep-25-08 12:38 AM   #130 
  - Does this mean the US has its own "surge?" n/t  nichomachus   Sep-24-08 06:54 AM   #78 
  - Congratulations America, your faith in venal politicians will finally pay off  Larry Ogg   Sep-24-08 07:49 AM   #80 
  - Hmmm....We should have sort of National Guard or something for this kind of thing.  progressoid   Sep-24-08 08:32 AM   #86 
  - National Guard is no longer under purview of state Govs,  dgibby   Sep-24-08 09:41 AM   #96 
  - Maybe even a well regulated Militia or something.....  paparush   Sep-24-08 09:43 AM   #97 
  - Questions that arrise include how a combat troop will react to "homeland" duties - link from CNN..  1776Forever   Sep-24-08 09:06 AM   #87 
  - O yea keep supporting the troops even when they are going to be used ...  L0oniX   Sep-24-08 09:17 AM   #88 
  - The key clause is "except in cases... authorized by the Constitution or act of Congress."  smoogatz   Sep-24-08 09:31 AM   #91 
  - The Army Times link has gone AWOL.  AngryOldDem   Sep-24-08 09:32 AM   #92 
  - For some reason they moved it - here it is  eowyn_of_rohan   Sep-24-08 09:36 AM   #93 
     - Thanks... n/t  AngryOldDem   Sep-24-08 09:40 AM   #95 
     - Who in congress approved this? Write your Senators and Reps  bambino   Sep-24-08 10:28 AM   #101 
        - Yes. I am going to write also to Kucinich and Leahy  eowyn_of_rohan   Sep-24-08 11:06 AM   #108 
  - Related topics to google:  dgibby   Sep-24-08 10:07 AM   #99 
  - This freaks me out way more than the credit crisis on Wall St.  TheGoldenRule   Sep-24-08 10:39 AM   #104 
  - In the same way we made calls, wrote letters, sent emails,  Birthday   Sep-24-08 10:51 AM   #107 
  - CONGRESSIONAL CONTACT LIST HERE:  eowyn_of_rohan   Sep-24-08 11:25 AM   #109 
  - I sent this to Rachel Maddow today  dgibby   Sep-24-08 11:32 AM   #110 
  - me too!! maybe she'll pick it up.  dana_b   Sep-24-08 11:34 AM   #111 
  - link goes to a 404 page not found page for me...  Lerkfish   Sep-24-08 01:46 PM   #113 
  - new link at post 93  eowyn_of_rohan   Sep-24-08 04:27 PM   #121 
     - thnks!  Lerkfish   Sep-25-08 05:39 AM   #136 
  - smelling an overwhelmingly stinky fish ...  coincidenceor...   Sep-24-08 02:19 PM   #114 
  - Welcome to DU!  readmoreoften   Sep-25-08 03:09 AM   #134 
  - What are they planning for October?  JerseygirlCT   Sep-24-08 02:39 PM   #115 
  - There may not be an election  lame54   Sep-24-08 02:46 PM   #116 
  - I told my congressman about this  BareNakedLiberal   Sep-24-08 03:48 PM   #118 
  - Good for you!  dgibby   Sep-24-08 07:43 PM   #127 
  - Aw shit...  Naturyl   Sep-24-08 04:31 PM   #122 
  - There could be something to the YouTubes of Bush canceling the election and  Imagevision   Sep-24-08 07:59 PM   #128 
  - how many soldiers would this be?  Algorem   Sep-25-08 12:00 AM   #129 
  - Only around 4000. Not that many. I suppose not enough. Depending on their back up.  readmoreoften   Sep-25-08 03:14 AM   #135 
  - with the new microwave crowd control devices, it would be enough.  Lerkfish   Sep-25-08 05:40 AM   #137 
  - Sadly, 1st Brigade is only PART of a huge team  eowyn_of_rohan   Sep-25-08 08:16 AM   #139 
  - From CCMRF - about 14,000 troops  eowyn_of_rohan   Sep-25-08 08:44 AM   #142 
     - 13500 Troops? Martial law. Dictatorship of the Smurfs.  readmoreoften   Sep-25-08 04:46 PM   #143 
  - putting the martial in martial law  leftofthedial   Sep-25-08 02:45 AM   #133 
  - non-lethal, unless they forget to set the phasers on stun  eowyn_of_rohan   Sep-25-08 08:38 AM   #141 
  - Bail Out a DEVIATION to take focus off of this?  glinda   Sep-27-08 04:38 PM   #144 
 

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