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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 10:42 PM
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32. The Jewish community like the Christian community have different contingents
Edited on Tue Mar-13-07 11:06 PM by Dover
and branches, some more politically active than others. It seems the far right contingent of both these groups are a big factor in policy decisions and carry alot of political weight as lobbyists. Just like the gun lobby/Rifle association or some other powerful group.
So I do find it rather biased that at DU one can discuss the Christian far right, Muslims, or any other religious group for that matter, unfettered by censorship, but the Jewish far right is off limits.

And quite frankly, few of the discussions on these groups has anything to do with religion or beliefs. They have to do with power and political clout. And they have to do with fundamentalism/conservativism vs. progressive/liberalism. Stifling these discussions seems to only inflame suspicion and anger.

On edit...well, I take it back...the rightwing Christians DO get hung out to dry regarding their beliefs here at DU (the Rapture is a favorite topic). But one couldn't start a similar post about the Jewish faith. Don't know how many Jewish DUers partipate in the Rapture fun, but that is definitely not something that gets addressed here.

And I agree with the post above about separating the policies and activities of a country with their predominant religious beliefs, be they Muslim, Christian, Jewish, or some other. The real issue is about power not belief.
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  - Bingo!  bonito   Mar-13-07 02:31 PM   #1 
  - we ruined the delicate/uncomfortable balence in the Middle East...  nashville_brook   Mar-13-07 03:00 PM   #13 
     - Israel and Iran really need to start talking  bonito   Mar-13-07 07:51 PM   #20 
  - k&r - nt  Atman   Mar-13-07 02:32 PM   #2 
  - The Democrats have been planning to retake Congress all this time - and this is the best we can get?  derby378   Mar-13-07 02:32 PM   #3 
  - we have to play the cards we're dealt on this...  nashville_brook   Mar-13-07 02:47 PM   #10 
  - Well said.  AndyA   Mar-13-07 02:32 PM   #4 
  - this is only the latest ... Larisa covered the Iran angle back in January  nashville_brook   Mar-13-07 02:34 PM   #5 
  - Gee whiz,.........  Parisle   Mar-13-07 02:34 PM   #6 
  - no...  nashville_brook   Mar-13-07 02:39 PM   #8 
  - Karl Rove, is that you twisting the words around?  file83   Mar-14-07 12:02 AM   #36 
  - Brava!!! You nailed it. n/t  no_hypocrisy   Mar-13-07 02:35 PM   #7 
  - Another false argument is that if you don't support AIPAC's control of our government  donkeyotay   Mar-13-07 02:45 PM   #9 
  - You are correct. Isn't the RW who is always saying that we, the USA, shouldn't be influenced by  sinkingfeeling   Mar-13-07 02:47 PM   #11 
  - that's the subtext of this post, isn't it...  nashville_brook   Mar-13-07 02:49 PM   #12 
  - the definition of "co-dependecy"  nashville_brook   Mar-13-07 03:48 PM   #18 
  - When the hell....  rateyes   Mar-13-07 03:10 PM   #14 
  - They'll grow a spine when forced to,  PDJane   Mar-13-07 03:19 PM   #15 
     - Well, WE are the only ones that can force it...  rateyes   Mar-13-07 03:26 PM   #16 
     - "warchest politics" means never having to grow a spine.  nashville_brook   Mar-13-07 03:27 PM   #17 
  - shameless kick  nashville_brook   Mar-13-07 05:37 PM   #19 
  - Hmmm... Here's something to think about.  MLFerrell   Mar-13-07 07:54 PM   #21 
  - AIPAC's influence is even more pervasive than we know. Just the  Gabi Hayes   Mar-13-07 08:08 PM   #23 
  - scroll down to the bottom for fascinating exchange of letters regarding this article.  Gabi Hayes   Mar-13-07 08:11 PM   #24 
     - Israel still has a chance to determine it's own future.  Usrename   Mar-13-07 08:50 PM   #26 
  - Bush Sr's one-word reply  Parisle   Mar-13-07 09:44 PM   #28 
     - wow. i've not explored the neocon/pro-israel nexus  nashville_brook   Mar-13-07 10:44 PM   #34 
  - Ding ding ding! Right on! nt  DearAbby   Mar-13-07 08:05 PM   #22 
  - Well put  Jcrowley   Mar-13-07 08:12 PM   #25 
  - I'm just so surprised and pleased we can have this discussion here in GD  Dover   Mar-13-07 09:00 PM   #27 
  - writing about *discourse* and the limits of discourse is inherently  nashville_brook   Mar-13-07 10:29 PM   #30 
  - Is it possible to objectively criticize Israel without being accused of anti-Semitism?  Generic Brad   Mar-13-07 09:57 PM   #29 
  - since Israel isn't ruled by theocracy, doesn't it seem that  nashville_brook   Mar-13-07 10:39 PM   #31 
  - No; but if you accuse Japan of controlling America, and especially if you accuse Japanese-Americans  LeftishBrit   Mar-14-07 03:21 AM   #40 
  - The Jewish community like the Christian community have different contingents  Dover   Mar-13-07 10:42 PM   #32 
  - it's about "power and clout" -- it's really that simple  nashville_brook   Mar-13-07 11:13 PM   #35 
  - THANK YOU!  Duppers   Mar-14-07 12:33 AM   #37 
  - Yes. It's possible to criticize Israel without being anti-semitic  LeftishBrit   Mar-14-07 03:12 AM   #39 
     - the "controlling" language  nashville_brook   Mar-14-07 12:21 PM   #41 
  - I don't care what I'm called.  mmonk   Mar-13-07 10:43 PM   #33 
  - kick n/t  upi402   Mar-14-07 12:37 AM   #38 
  - So, how does Israel benefit from US dictatorship?  rman   Mar-14-07 12:35 PM   #42 
     - interesting question  nashville_brook   Mar-14-07 01:12 PM   #43 
        - How long has Likud been in power?  rman   Mar-14-07 02:48 PM   #44 
 

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