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MLFerrell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 07:54 PM
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21. Hmmm... Here's something to think about.
"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." -- Ariel Sharon to Shimon Peres, October 3rd, 2001, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio.

True? Who knows. certainly not me. Is it anti-Semitic to suggest that AIPAC has disproportionate influence over the United States Congress? I mean, they're certainly no Big Oil, but you have to wonder when OUR elected officials are all but pledging fealty to a foreign nation... In any case, they're signaling loud and clear that Israel is a priority. Nothing wrong with that, in and of itself, but in this case what's in Israel's best interest is CLEARLY not in the US's best interest.

Not to mention that I don't see annual multi-billion dollar aid packages being bestowed on Katrina victims...

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  -CAN we talk?'s a CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS, regardless nashville_brook  Mar-13-07 02:26 PM   #0 
  - Bingo!  bonito   Mar-13-07 02:31 PM   #1 
  - we ruined the delicate/uncomfortable balence in the Middle East...  nashville_brook   Mar-13-07 03:00 PM   #13 
     - Israel and Iran really need to start talking  bonito   Mar-13-07 07:51 PM   #20 
  - k&r - nt  Atman   Mar-13-07 02:32 PM   #2 
  - The Democrats have been planning to retake Congress all this time - and this is the best we can get?  derby378   Mar-13-07 02:32 PM   #3 
  - we have to play the cards we're dealt on this...  nashville_brook   Mar-13-07 02:47 PM   #10 
  - Well said.  AndyA   Mar-13-07 02:32 PM   #4 
  - this is only the latest ... Larisa covered the Iran angle back in January  nashville_brook   Mar-13-07 02:34 PM   #5 
  - Gee whiz,.........  Parisle   Mar-13-07 02:34 PM   #6 
  - no...  nashville_brook   Mar-13-07 02:39 PM   #8 
  - Karl Rove, is that you twisting the words around?  file83   Mar-14-07 12:02 AM   #36 
  - Brava!!! You nailed it. n/t  no_hypocrisy   Mar-13-07 02:35 PM   #7 
  - Another false argument is that if you don't support AIPAC's control of our government  donkeyotay   Mar-13-07 02:45 PM   #9 
  - You are correct. Isn't the RW who is always saying that we, the USA, shouldn't be influenced by  sinkingfeeling   Mar-13-07 02:47 PM   #11 
  - that's the subtext of this post, isn't it...  nashville_brook   Mar-13-07 02:49 PM   #12 
  - the definition of "co-dependecy"  nashville_brook   Mar-13-07 03:48 PM   #18 
  - When the hell....  rateyes   Mar-13-07 03:10 PM   #14 
  - They'll grow a spine when forced to,  PDJane   Mar-13-07 03:19 PM   #15 
     - Well, WE are the only ones that can force it...  rateyes   Mar-13-07 03:26 PM   #16 
     - "warchest politics" means never having to grow a spine.  nashville_brook   Mar-13-07 03:27 PM   #17 
  - shameless kick  nashville_brook   Mar-13-07 05:37 PM   #19 
  - Hmmm... Here's something to think about.  MLFerrell   Mar-13-07 07:54 PM   #21 
  - AIPAC's influence is even more pervasive than we know. Just the  Gabi Hayes   Mar-13-07 08:08 PM   #23 
  - scroll down to the bottom for fascinating exchange of letters regarding this article.  Gabi Hayes   Mar-13-07 08:11 PM   #24 
     - Israel still has a chance to determine it's own future.  Usrename   Mar-13-07 08:50 PM   #26 
  - Bush Sr's one-word reply  Parisle   Mar-13-07 09:44 PM   #28 
     - wow. i've not explored the neocon/pro-israel nexus  nashville_brook   Mar-13-07 10:44 PM   #34 
  - Ding ding ding! Right on! nt  DearAbby   Mar-13-07 08:05 PM   #22 
  - Well put  Jcrowley   Mar-13-07 08:12 PM   #25 
  - I'm just so surprised and pleased we can have this discussion here in GD  Dover   Mar-13-07 09:00 PM   #27 
  - writing about *discourse* and the limits of discourse is inherently  nashville_brook   Mar-13-07 10:29 PM   #30 
  - Is it possible to objectively criticize Israel without being accused of anti-Semitism?  Generic Brad   Mar-13-07 09:57 PM   #29 
  - since Israel isn't ruled by theocracy, doesn't it seem that  nashville_brook   Mar-13-07 10:39 PM   #31 
  - No; but if you accuse Japan of controlling America, and especially if you accuse Japanese-Americans  LeftishBrit   Mar-14-07 03:21 AM   #40 
  - The Jewish community like the Christian community have different contingents  Dover   Mar-13-07 10:42 PM   #32 
  - it's about "power and clout" -- it's really that simple  nashville_brook   Mar-13-07 11:13 PM   #35 
  - THANK YOU!  Duppers   Mar-14-07 12:33 AM   #37 
  - Yes. It's possible to criticize Israel without being anti-semitic  LeftishBrit   Mar-14-07 03:12 AM   #39 
     - the "controlling" language  nashville_brook   Mar-14-07 12:21 PM   #41 
  - I don't care what I'm called.  mmonk   Mar-13-07 10:43 PM   #33 
  - kick n/t  upi402   Mar-14-07 12:37 AM   #38 
  - So, how does Israel benefit from US dictatorship?  rman   Mar-14-07 12:35 PM   #42 
     - interesting question  nashville_brook   Mar-14-07 01:12 PM   #43 
        - How long has Likud been in power?  rman   Mar-14-07 02:48 PM   #44 

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