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71. I'd Posted This Elsewhere
Edited on Thu Sep-18-08 12:11 AM by Mark D.
But it is very much related to this thread, so I'm going to post it here.
This is the tip of the iceberg, we need to go viral with a few things.

1) Phil Gramm, as we know, put into legislation deregulations, when he
was a senator, that opened the door for much of this major crash now.
He's an economic advisor to McCain who will be part of his D.C. team.

2) That's not the end of it!

McCain's chief adviser, Charlie Black, is one of 72 lobbyists, that
have worked for/with/or bundled money for John McCain.

3) That's not it either!

The top of the list of those he lobbied for? JP MORGAN! Yes, that is
the company of the globalist banking family. JP Morgan's grandfather
founded AETNA, the first and now largest health insurer. Leader in a
fight we are well aware of, to not allow true universal health care.

JP Morgan himself helped steer the monetary supply to allow a major
Wall Street collapse that ushered in the Great Depression, with the
help of the Federal Reserve he helped get passed (due to a 'scare'
he helped orchestrate on Wall Street). That is the same family...

4) Here is the zinger. Who did Gramm open that door for? MORGAN!

The leading beneficiaries of the massive deregulation Gramm was a
big part of and McCain was fully supportive of was SPECULATIONS.

Energy Speculation is believed to be about $2 of the increase in
our gas prices, raising our food prices, and so much more and it
has put serious breaks on the economy as we all are so aware...

Speculation in Real Estate. The sub-prime debacle. Allow many
sick banker children of the mega banks and the big brother in
the Federal Reserve to run amok, giving out those bad loans.

Then sell them bundled to foreign investors. The biggest of all
of these, by far and away, were HEDGE FUNDS. What is the
biggest hedge fund of them all? MORGAN. I repeat, MORGAN!

Many who believe the monetary policy is the true root of all of
this mess we are in, and the corporate control of govt. by the
lobbyists. And war for corporate and banker profit, and know
of Morgan's major role, with the other two pillars in this
great NWO disaster (Rockefeller/Rothschild) can clearly at
this time, I hope, see that McCain IS their boy.

THE FINAL NAIL in the coffin? The former fundraiser for Hillary who
helped the DNC write the convention platform is now supporting,
and actually out campaigning for John McCain. She's also head
of the Rothschild investment arm of the Rothschild banking and
globalist Euro empire. The elites have their candidates now...

Funny how he may only be in power long enough to put Gramm
in a position economically in his administration to cut loose all
the rest of the chains on that beast so it can maul us into a
Great Depression version two by sometimes in his first year.
Something recently brought up on Olberman's broadcast...

Then he can break his hip, and be unable to continue and let a
Dominionist, Theocratic, anti-feminist cave woman take the job.
GOD HELP US. They hack this fucking election and they then rule.

We will at that point be nothing more than Feudalist & Fascist.
Disguised as unregulated "Capitalist". As THE military division
of the Nazi ultimate victory, as when we fall, the world shall
be next. Complete w/Knights of Malta Blackwater military rule.
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  -The draconian measures make sense now, Homeland Security, Blackwater, Patriot Act etc. arcadian  Sep-17-08 11:34 AM   #0 
  - you are correct!  grannie4peace   Sep-17-08 11:35 AM   #1 
  - DING! k&r Shock Doctrine - n/t  lapfog_1   Sep-17-08 11:39 AM   #2 
  - exactly  shanti   Sep-17-08 11:52 AM   #10 
  - the enemy is within  alyce douglas   Sep-17-08 12:50 PM   #18 
  - I agree, but please give me hope as to how Obama and Biden...  timeforarevolution   Sep-18-08 06:51 AM   #99 
  - we have to rise to the occasion.  alyce douglas   Sep-17-08 12:49 PM   #17 
  - Even freepturds and FoxNoise viewers (but I repeat myself) need income.  Fridays Child   Sep-17-08 11:40 AM   #3 
  - Continuity of Government /nt  libertypirate   Sep-17-08 11:42 AM   #4 
  - Yep. COG -- it isn't just for mechanics any more.  Beam Me Up   Sep-17-08 03:43 PM   #31 
  - Wait till Palin becomes President.  old mark   Sep-17-08 11:42 AM   #5 
  - I'd be targeting local conservative sympathisers!  Karl_Bonner_1982   Sep-17-08 09:51 PM   #57 
     - So, uh, where's the Hate Radio station  NBachers   Sep-18-08 12:51 AM   #77 
        - Any place that broadcasts "Savage Nation" I guess. N.T.  Karl_Bonner_1982   Sep-18-08 01:24 AM   #81 
  - I believe you have nailed the situation, arcadian,  Uncle Joe   Sep-17-08 11:44 AM   #6 
  - Worse. The Handmaid's Tale.  knitter4democracy   Sep-17-08 11:46 AM   #7 
  - This was the plan all along -- Greg Palast warned us  nichomachus   Sep-17-08 11:48 AM   #8 
  - And it was a planned demolition  StClone   Sep-17-08 11:41 PM   #66 
     - Well, if that's true, you would think they would have timed it a little better  Marsala   Sep-18-08 04:52 AM   #96 
        - No, I don't think so.  Nihil   Sep-18-08 07:58 AM   #104 
           - I tend to agree with you,  femrap   Sep-18-08 10:43 AM   #121 
              - Your guess is as good as mine ..  Nihil   Sep-19-08 04:33 AM   #142 
                 - I'm just hoping we can  femrap   Sep-19-08 10:49 AM   #145 
  - It has been coming  MuseRider   Sep-17-08 11:49 AM   #9 
  - in another country these thugs would have been long gone.  alyce douglas   Sep-17-08 12:52 PM   #19 
     - Do you think  MuseRider   Sep-17-08 01:05 PM   #23 
        - the young people deserve better than this.  alyce douglas   Sep-17-08 01:18 PM   #24 
           - no, rosa parks didn't just spontaneously refuse to move. she had well-organised  Hannah Bell   Sep-18-08 04:56 AM   #97 
  - Slaves?  90-percent   Sep-17-08 11:53 AM   #11 
  - Political mind control with extreme sanctions against dissenters-that's the BFEE's HOMELAND (tm).  bobthedrummer   Sep-17-08 11:55 AM   #12 
  - Mission Accomplished!!! n/t  janet118   Sep-17-08 11:56 AM   #13 
  - "A collapse that by and far is looking more and more manufactured everyday."  Atman   Sep-17-08 11:57 AM   #14 
  - It makes sense - but this close to the election?  TornadoTN   Sep-17-08 12:56 PM   #22 
  - Because they didn't plan for the big meltdown to happen NOW.  Raksha   Sep-17-08 08:24 PM   #44 
  - well, I don't think they care about the election anyway--  bbgrunt   Sep-18-08 12:08 AM   #70 
     - Agreed. They got their in 8 years of screwing the treasury and lining their pockets,  Dangerously Amused   Sep-18-08 01:10 AM   #79 
     - There is a poll out there, sorry no link, but it was within the past couple of weeks,  CrispyQGirl   Sep-18-08 09:22 AM   #114 
     - Don't forget about the  femrap   Sep-18-08 11:26 AM   #126 
  - what election?  frogcycle   Sep-17-08 10:58 PM   #61 
  - I think that there desire to destroy the system has had the unintended consequence of happening  trthnd4jstc   Sep-17-08 11:56 PM   #67 
  - "What election?" is right. And what do you think FISA and all the signing statements were about?  Atman   Sep-18-08 12:19 AM   #76 
  - and yet so many refuse to even consider MIHOP or LIHOP  bbgrunt   Sep-18-08 12:04 AM   #68 
  - Not so incompetent after all, are they?  Blue State Native   Sep-18-08 10:18 AM   #119 
  - we've never really been free since the corporatists took over, until now we've liked our cage...  rndmprsn   Sep-17-08 12:34 PM   #15 
  - I don't think this was planned - the corporatists are  adigal   Sep-17-08 12:47 PM   #16 
  - They just kept getting greedier and greedier  TornadoTN   Sep-17-08 12:53 PM   #21 
  - well, the corporations are just another tool to achieve their end.......and I  bbgrunt   Sep-18-08 12:12 AM   #72 
  - some are, some aren't.  Hannah Bell   Sep-18-08 01:33 AM   #82 
  - The Gatekeepers, those who thought they were in the club because they have (had?) money, are feeling  greyhound1966   Sep-18-08 03:27 AM   #88 
  - Pain?? Let me feel some!  dhpgetsit   Sep-18-08 10:08 AM   #118 
  - Not true at all. If you run a company, or have a lot of money to spread around  Indenturedebtor   Sep-18-08 11:48 AM   #130 
  - there is no war but the class war  leftofthedial   Sep-17-08 12:53 PM   #20 
  - All warfare is class warfare.  arcadian   Sep-17-08 02:32 PM   #28 
     - Wow. Those words are like a sharp knife that cuts straight to the core of ALL ISSUES nt  conspirator   Sep-18-08 03:33 AM   #90 
  - And now they have a trained force of torturers. n/t  Orsino   Sep-17-08 01:24 PM   #25 
  - "Creative Destruction" I remember this from 2006 Please read.  higher class   Sep-17-08 01:48 PM   #26 
  - higher class, the reason we haven't "made these two words and the name of their project household  bertman   Sep-18-08 11:53 AM   #133 
     - I think you're right on every point. Makes me cry. 30-40 years ago, a  higher class   Sep-18-08 03:51 PM   #140 
  - Yep, how many of us around here having been saying this for years?! Wake up America! nt  TheGoldenRule   Sep-17-08 02:04 PM   #27 
  - Not slaves, serfs. Slaves are valuable assets, serfs are imminently and inevitably disposable. n/t  greyhound1966   Sep-17-08 02:36 PM   #29 
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     - Reuters - May 6, 2008: Risk of bird flu pandemic probably growing  aint_no_life_nowhere   Sep-17-08 08:24 PM   #43 
     - Uh, thanks  Canuckistanian   Sep-17-08 08:33 PM   #46 
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  - And those of us proudly wearing tin foil hats have been saying this for years  Beam Me Up   Sep-17-08 03:38 PM   #30 
  - Yes, we have!  southerncrone   Sep-17-08 09:00 PM   #47 
  - well said Beam, give me a jim.  bbgrunt   Sep-18-08 12:14 AM   #73 
  - can I get an  Truth2Tell   Sep-18-08 01:48 AM   #83 
  - Sometimes it sucks being right.  greyhound1966   Sep-18-08 03:43 AM   #91 
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  - I didn't think I'd see a stupider post on here than that shit this morning...  yibbehobba   Sep-17-08 04:54 PM   #33 
  - You have proven yourself to be a staunch supporter of neo-colonialism  arcadian   Sep-17-08 05:17 PM   #34 
  - Actually, I'm an opponent of neo-colonialism.  yibbehobba   Sep-17-08 05:22 PM   #35 
     - What in my post is a conspiracy theory?  arcadian   Sep-17-08 05:42 PM   #36 
     - Another coincidence theorist heard from. Thank you for your concern.  Jim Sagle   Sep-17-08 10:50 PM   #59 
  - There was actually such a thread here  liberalhistorian   Sep-17-08 08:32 PM   #45 
  - There was no such thread, lieralhistorian.  Th1onein   Sep-18-08 01:08 PM   #135 
  - Give us all a break here. No one was rejoicing and you know it.  Th1onein   Sep-18-08 12:08 AM   #69 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-18-08 08:54 AM   #108 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-18-08 09:11 AM   #111 
           - It was a restriction on flights below 2000 feet over Galveston.  yibbehobba   Sep-18-08 09:36 AM   #115 
              - And your point?  Th1onein   Sep-18-08 01:13 PM   #136 
                 - You said people were being prevented from flying over Galveston...  yibbehobba   Sep-18-08 02:46 PM   #139 
                    - Did you watch Wayne Dolcefino asking these questions of Gov. Perry?  Th1onein   Sep-19-08 08:20 AM   #143 
                    - Did you watch Wayne Dolcefino asking these questions of Gov. Perry?  Th1onein   Sep-19-08 08:20 AM   #144 
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  - yes, but it can be stopped at governors' level  KakistocracyHater   Sep-17-08 08:04 PM   #39 
  - Exactly! Thank you for playing!  NoSheep   Sep-17-08 08:04 PM   #40 
  - Absolutely correct  MsLeopard   Sep-17-08 08:04 PM   #41 
  - As with everything else in Iraq  Golden Raisin   Sep-18-08 01:56 AM   #86 
  - Guns. They will want them...no private ownership.  MissMarple   Sep-17-08 08:23 PM   #42 
  - Break out the torches and pitchforks....  sop   Sep-17-08 09:37 PM   #51 
  - DING DING DING!  mirrera   Sep-17-08 09:08 PM   #48 
  - KandR. When they came for me...  Dystopian   Sep-17-08 09:15 PM   #49 
  - When middle America wakes up and realizes their 401k's have been swiped by these  sarcasmo   Sep-17-08 09:27 PM   #50 
  - Is it fascism yet?  Usrename   Sep-17-08 09:39 PM   #52 
  - AWEsome post!!! K&R n/t  1Hippiechick   Sep-17-08 09:40 PM   #53 
  - "National Security" isn't about terrorists. It is about maintaining  Ilsa   Sep-17-08 09:44 PM   #54 
  - Who do you think "owns" the Chinese? Where did the capital for China's boom come from?  Hannah Bell   Sep-18-08 01:49 AM   #84 
     - The truth is the owners of the world don't have nationality. They are multinational oligarchies  conspirator   Sep-18-08 03:50 AM   #93 
  - What happens upon collapse is anyone's guess  Karl_Bonner_1982   Sep-17-08 09:46 PM   #55 
  - this is news?  NJCher   Sep-17-08 09:48 PM   #56 
  - Except...  GoddessOfGuinness   Sep-17-08 10:44 PM   #58 
  - Don't forget the Active Denial System.  blackops   Sep-17-08 10:52 PM   #60 
  - And we're hopelessly in hock to the Chinese.  Waiting For Everyman   Sep-17-08 10:59 PM   #62 
  - yes  tismyself   Sep-18-08 12:19 AM   #75 
  - That's what they want folks to believe, but in fact, we're not "hopelessly" in hock to anyone.  Hannah Bell   Sep-18-08 01:55 AM   #85 
  - You left "the military" out of your title.  tuckessee   Sep-17-08 11:07 PM   #63 
  - Saw that. Stunning. All puns intended.  Beam Me Up   Sep-18-08 01:14 AM   #80 
  - And has failed for 7 years to subdue the equivalent of a third world California.  greyhound1966   Sep-18-08 04:10 AM   #94 
  - Fuck 'em... it's too late....  Ragazz68   Sep-17-08 11:09 PM   #64 
  - Welcome to Costco. I love you. NT  Sonicmedusa   Sep-17-08 11:36 PM   #65 
  - I'd Posted This Elsewhere  Mark D.   Sep-18-08 12:09 AM   #71 
  - I'd like to buy a vowel now  tismyself   Sep-18-08 12:17 AM   #74 
  - The first step in rehabilitarion is recognizing the problem  Chulanowa   Sep-18-08 12:56 AM   #78 
  - 911 was an inside job. We have been screaming this for 7 years.  Twist_U_Up   Sep-18-08 03:04 AM   #87 
  - I used to think "911 inside job" theorists were attention craving nuts  conspirator   Sep-18-08 03:46 AM   #92 
  - Bush's mercenaries, Blackwater, stand ready to do his bidding  OakCliffDem   Sep-18-08 04:48 AM   #95 
  - I think you may be right...  nradisic   Sep-18-08 06:42 AM   #98 
  - Butyet, they some how qualify for "Personhood" That seems fair.  JohnnyBoots   Sep-18-08 08:58 AM   #109 
  - Research Gen. Smedley Butler, war is a racket, and the business plot.  Wizard777   Sep-18-08 06:54 AM   #100 
  - The Democrats are going to wipe them out come  malaise   Sep-18-08 06:55 AM   #101 
  - The Revolution will not be televised...  MarkP   Sep-18-08 07:12 AM   #102 
  - Fearing it doesn't mean they could stop it.  billyoc   Sep-18-08 07:37 AM   #103 
  - We Are Going To Be Sold To China, Here is How It Works...  Johnnyheadstone   Sep-18-08 08:20 AM   #105 
  - Wow, amazing...  onlyadream   Sep-18-08 07:24 PM   #141 
  - Congratulations! You got it.  CaptJasHook   Sep-18-08 08:27 AM   #106 
  - Free your mind, your ass will follow  aasleka   Sep-18-08 08:44 AM   #107 
  - I'm not a slave and I don't think 'they' did this in some grand plan. Never attribute to malice  lynnertic   Sep-18-08 09:04 AM   #110 
  - Greed is malicious, and "stupidity" is relative.  Beam Me Up   Sep-18-08 10:50 AM   #122 
     - Excellent observations,,,I agree with you  Raksha   Sep-18-08 01:33 PM   #138 
  - Everyone Knows this!  Pete2069   Sep-18-08 09:18 AM   #112 
  - Your'e right!  lisainmilo   Sep-18-08 09:19 AM   #113 
  - I love that Pogo frame!  dhpgetsit   Sep-18-08 10:01 AM   #116 
  - But why was there support for  Enthusiast   Sep-18-08 10:03 AM   #117 
  - Who controls the majority of worldwide labor and capital?  Johnnyheadstone   Sep-18-08 10:23 AM   #120 
  - China doesn't give a damn about taking us over  Indenturedebtor   Sep-18-08 11:51 AM   #131 
  - 100% Dead on.  EnviroBat   Sep-18-08 11:01 AM   #123 
  - Very vague about  cartach   Sep-18-08 11:04 AM   #124 
  - I am with the crowd still fearing that Bush is up to something  Liberalynn   Sep-18-08 11:16 AM   #125 
  - You are right to fear this crowd.  Enthusiast   Sep-18-08 11:39 AM   #128 
  - I have my RR homepage up in another window  Liberalynn   Sep-18-08 11:57 AM   #134 
  - I'd love to tell you you're nuts... but I've been thinking the same thing.  MadrasT   Sep-18-08 11:44 AM   #129 
     - Thanks I needed that  Liberalynn   Sep-18-08 11:53 AM   #132 
  - I don't agree  Vattel   Sep-18-08 11:37 AM   #127 
  - The New Deal has been a target since its inception. nt  SweetieD   Sep-18-08 01:15 PM   #137 
 

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