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Sat Sep-06-08 03:32 PM
Response to Reply #88 |
| 90. "I'm not feelin' that "AAVE" jazz" |
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If you don't get that the Fox bit was racially coded, or why calling her "ghetto" is racially coded, then I think you and I are too far apart to even have a conversation about this, to be honest.
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| -Why are we embracing racially coded language on DU? |
lwfern |
Sep-06-08 10:39 AM |
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PLEASE tell me that is not an actual screen shot! PLEASE!! n/t |
prayin4rain |
Sep-06-08 10:42 AM |
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You bet it is! |
Catch22Dem |
Sep-06-08 10:50 AM |
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That is so sick.... she is his WIFE for one thing... |
prayin4rain |
Sep-06-08 10:52 AM |
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Exactly. Repigs are so F stupid, they use words whose meanings they don't know.... |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-06-08 11:01 AM |
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No news organization used it as far as I know |
Jack Rabbit |
Sep-06-08 12:41 PM |
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true... but still... that is all the news a lot of the people i know get |
prayin4rain |
Sep-06-08 01:17 PM |
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could you give us an example of the same coded language used against poor little Levi? |
notadmblnd |
Sep-06-08 10:44 AM |
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Here's one: F*ing Redneck... by his own admission. |
Union Thug |
Sep-06-08 10:48 AM |
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See, problem is, it fits Levi. It never fits Obama. |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-06-08 10:50 AM |
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Why is using AAVE an insult? |
lwfern |
Sep-06-08 10:52 AM |
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What's AAVE? I'm sorry but I'm totally confused now. nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-06-08 10:59 AM |
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African Amerian Vernacular English |
lwfern |
Sep-06-08 11:07 AM |
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African-American Vernacular English (nt) |
petronius |
Sep-06-08 11:08 AM |
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It isn't if you use it against whites as well. nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-06-08 11:11 AM |
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Is the same true for the N word? |
lwfern |
Sep-06-08 11:14 AM |
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That describes a color. The color, "negro." Now, how on earth could you call a white person.... |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-06-08 08:17 PM |
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Who are we to argue with his obviously accurate discription of himself? |
notadmblnd |
Sep-06-08 10:53 AM |
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didn't I read something.. |
stillcool47 |
Sep-06-08 12:39 PM |
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I don't care one way or another about "poor little Levi" |
lwfern |
Sep-06-08 10:51 AM |
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but "we" didn't use that term, Faux Newz did. |
notadmblnd |
Sep-06-08 11:00 AM |
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"we" HAVE been using that term. |
lwfern |
Sep-06-08 11:17 AM |
#53 |
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They aren't married, he is a baby daddy |
sandnsea |
Sep-06-08 12:10 PM |
#66 |
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I think you are misunderstanding my point. |
lwfern |
Sep-06-08 12:44 PM |
#69 |
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that's what i am saying. |
psychmommy |
Sep-06-08 04:02 PM |
#92 |
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Look, I used that term a few days ago because it applied. |
rebel with a cause |
Sep-06-08 05:00 PM |
#96 |
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I'm not talking about the use of the phrase "baby's daddy" |
lwfern |
Sep-06-08 05:39 PM |
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Yes. If the Right Wing uses racism, we should ignore it and hope it goes away... |
Junkdrawer |
Sep-06-08 10:48 AM |
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Nope. NEVER EVER ignore an insult. Kerry did that and it tore me apart |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-06-08 10:51 AM |
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I was thinking about Kerry too with my last two posts. He played it with class, and we know what |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Sep-06-08 11:03 AM |
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Do you know that I CRIED during the time Kerry was not responding to the swiftboater lies? |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-06-08 11:05 AM |
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I was very emotional over it too and it was maddening when I couldn't do a single |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Sep-06-08 11:30 AM |
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:( Maybe this time we won't let that happen at all. nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-06-08 08:23 PM |
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Didn't you know the best way for Democrats to win in November is to attack and demean other DUers? |
TahitiNut |
Sep-06-08 10:53 AM |
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Maybe you didn't mean to reply to my thread. |
lwfern |
Sep-06-08 10:54 AM |
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I've used baby daddy as a way of throwing it in the faces of the Repukes that did that to |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Sep-06-08 10:49 AM |
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I use the term babymama about Sarah Palin and her daughter, BOTH... |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-06-08 10:52 AM |
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The time for playing "nice" is over. We will not survive another 4 years with the Repukes. |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Sep-06-08 10:56 AM |
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ABSOLUTELY! Totally agree! nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-06-08 10:58 AM |
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Does that mean we need to embrace racism? |
lwfern |
Sep-06-08 11:08 AM |
#47 |
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It isn't racially coded when you start to neutralize it by turning it towards those who use |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Sep-06-08 11:32 AM |
#58 |
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So should we try using the N word more |
lwfern |
Sep-06-08 11:38 AM |
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I think you are taking this way too far right now. nt |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Sep-06-08 11:57 AM |
#63 |
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That's an incredible leap |
Lorien |
Sep-06-08 12:02 PM |
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Exactly n/t. |
Lorien |
Sep-06-08 11:52 AM |
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EXACTLY! You explain it much better than I do. :) |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-06-08 08:27 PM |
#114 |
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I agree 100% |
malaise |
Sep-06-08 11:15 AM |
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Amen. If Dems want to be seen as strong and tough, we'll play a good defense |
Lorien |
Sep-06-08 11:51 AM |
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After Killer Palin's speech and McCrash's I had expected some hard hitting back by Obama and Biden |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Sep-06-08 02:13 PM |
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I know. I was talking with some friends about that yesterday |
Lorien |
Sep-06-08 02:20 PM |
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Luckily, I seem to spared the McCrash ads right now. I'm in NY and I'm sure they will spend very |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Sep-06-08 02:42 PM |
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Speaking not not playing nice - reminds me of Dixie Chicks |
fortyfeetunder |
Sep-06-08 02:15 PM |
#77 |
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Yes! Yes! Yes!!!! |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Sep-06-08 02:48 PM |
#82 |
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Do you think there's a difference between |
lwfern |
Sep-06-08 02:59 PM |
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How about handing racists the truth, and be nice about it? |
fortyfeetunder |
Sep-06-08 05:05 PM |
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I disagree. |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-06-08 10:49 AM |
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Poor, little girl. Palin is so abused and so are all her and her daughter's |
fasttense |
Sep-06-08 10:51 AM |
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What's the latest with Sarah Palin's adulterous relationship? Anyone know? nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-06-08 10:52 AM |
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saw a thread yesterday, citing an article where the ex business |
orleans |
Sep-06-08 10:56 AM |
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Oh I'm sure he's getting them sealed because of statements made by his ex-wife about Palin... |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-06-08 10:58 AM |
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Could be two reasons. |
lwfern |
Sep-06-08 03:18 PM |
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Some are saying Scott Richter and some are saying Brad Hanson. I say, why not both? lol! |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Sep-06-08 05:47 PM |
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This doesn't appear to be related to my OP. nt |
lwfern |
Sep-06-08 10:56 AM |
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You, madam,are a hypocrite of the first order. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Sep-06-08 01:24 PM |
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Although you haven't addressed this to me, I can say for myself, I am very used to personal attacks |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Sep-06-08 05:53 PM |
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Republicans should have to. Their children shouldn't. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Sep-06-08 07:25 PM |
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No. Those children are used as Props to promote an Image of Palin, and she has made those kids |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Sep-06-08 08:21 PM |
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Are Obama's children fair game? |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Sep-07-08 06:12 AM |
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If they find something to say, of course Obama's children will their fair game. Is it right? |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Sep-07-08 07:24 AM |
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Apparently not, given his subsequent grovelling apology. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Sep-07-08 07:28 AM |
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lol! Exactly. :) |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Sep-07-08 07:46 AM |
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I'm a nearly-old fart who is not up on the slang - |
NCevilDUer |
Sep-06-08 10:54 AM |
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Babymama is slang which began among black people and which refers to.... |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-06-08 11:00 AM |
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I think you missed the subtext. |
lwfern |
Sep-06-08 11:02 AM |
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I know what you're saying.... but (and forgive me) you're wrong..... |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-06-08 11:08 AM |
#45 |
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That doesn't happen in the real world. |
lwfern |
Sep-06-08 11:24 AM |
#54 |
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But, if the term is originally AAVE, why would it need reclaiming? |
kayell |
Sep-06-08 02:07 PM |
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Your question is at the heart of what I'm asking, actually. |
lwfern |
Sep-06-08 02:50 PM |
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that how it's being used by blacks |
kayell |
Sep-06-08 04:30 PM |
#93 |
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We agree on this: |
lwfern |
Sep-06-08 06:45 PM |
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Plus I have a queston for you. Should we LIMIT that word to using it only with black people?? |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-06-08 10:54 AM |
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Huh? |
lwfern |
Sep-06-08 10:55 AM |
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NONO! My question was..... |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-06-08 10:57 AM |
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Again, you seem to be arguing your own point, not mine |
lwfern |
Sep-06-08 11:04 AM |
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Okay, here's your own comment, quoted: |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-06-08 11:10 AM |
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You seem to be deliberately misconstruing nmy words. |
lwfern |
Sep-06-08 11:29 AM |
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Oy vey. To remove a pejorative meaning, you MUST use that word for groups outside |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-06-08 08:21 PM |
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Let me clarify too |
Caliman73 |
Sep-06-08 03:29 PM |
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You are obviously removed from young people, for whom it is becoming a frequent term |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-06-08 08:20 PM |
#110 |
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(what is "aave?") n/t |
orleans |
Sep-06-08 10:57 AM |
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AAVE = African American Vernacular English (nt) |
lwfern |
Sep-06-08 11:05 AM |
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Some of us are hypocrites, and like most hypocrites are blind to our own hypocrisy |
slackmaster |
Sep-06-08 10:59 AM |
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Huh? Okay, I know there must be some hidden significance in this.. nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-06-08 11:03 AM |
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My post means exactly what it says |
slackmaster |
Sep-06-08 11:06 AM |
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I was afraid of that. Please read the other posts. nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-06-08 11:08 AM |
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I don't give a flying fuck about the other posts |
slackmaster |
Sep-06-08 11:12 AM |
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some people |
mass independent |
Sep-06-08 11:00 AM |
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Exactly. This is hardly the time for faux outrage. nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-06-08 11:03 AM |
#38 |
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I think that people are can still feel outrage after so many years |
prayin4rain |
Sep-06-08 11:35 AM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Sep-06-08 11:28 AM |
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Sorry, I totally disagree. |
asdjrocky |
Sep-06-08 12:09 PM |
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that doesn't relate to my question, though. |
lwfern |
Sep-06-08 12:46 PM |
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You're asking me to be careful about what I say, er write, about someone. |
asdjrocky |
Sep-06-08 01:14 PM |
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No |
jaredh |
Sep-06-08 02:32 PM |
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I just can't keep up! |
tannybogus |
Sep-06-08 01:29 PM |
#74 |
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Actually, the text in the picture is not coded at all ... |
ColbertWatcher |
Sep-06-08 02:44 PM |
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meanings...... |
loyalsister |
Sep-06-08 02:55 PM |
#84 |
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Thank you for getting that! |
lwfern |
Sep-06-08 03:11 PM |
#86 |
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I understand completely |
loyalsister |
Sep-06-08 04:47 PM |
#95 |
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Let's start from the beginning because your point's not making sense |
Montauk6 |
Sep-06-08 03:19 PM |
#88 |
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"I'm not feelin' that "AAVE" jazz" |
lwfern |
Sep-06-08 03:32 PM |
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You're right, we are too far apart to have a conversation about this |
Montauk6 |
Sep-06-08 04:44 PM |
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What are you talking about? |
sheeptramp |
Sep-06-08 03:34 PM |
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you obviously don't understand baby 'mommy' and 'daddy' |
crimsonblue |
Sep-06-08 05:03 PM |
#97 |
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erased because I decided I was wrong to say what I said. |
rebel with a cause |
Sep-06-08 05:31 PM |
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Did you understand it as racist when Fox used it? nt |
lwfern |
Sep-06-08 05:41 PM |
#101 |
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It's racist on Fox because it's completely inaccurate |
bezdomny |
Sep-06-08 08:28 PM |
#115 |
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That's an awfully broad brushed statement. |
Husb2Sparkly |
Sep-06-08 05:45 PM |
#102 |
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I have not embraced a damn thing. |
bemildred |
Sep-06-08 05:55 PM |
#105 |
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Clinton supporters were happy with it, back during silly season. |
BlooInBloo |
Sep-06-08 06:46 PM |
#107 |
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"Baby Mama" is a movie starring Tina Fey, AAVE is a summer camp |
bananas |
Sep-06-08 09:29 PM |
#116 |
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