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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 07:59 AM
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15. Ask a scientist if science is subjective
Edited on Sat Aug-30-08 08:00 AM by kwolf68
Dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Science can have NO subjectivity in it. You could theoretically make a hypothesis that is subjective, but all your testing and experimentation HAS to be objective.

See, the reason is because if you create some bullshit science project to produce a 'subjective' conclusion then the peer-reviewed community will expose you as a quack and a fraud and your work will be quickly discredited.

Science is the LAST bastion of objectivity.
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  -Pretty sure my professor is a winger. mahina  Aug-30-08 03:30 AM   #0 
  - Don't pick a fight; this man decides your grade. But as time goes on, be prepared to defend...  Hekate   Aug-30-08 03:34 AM   #1 
  - Hey hey, oh yes,  mahina   Aug-30-08 03:44 AM   #3 
     - The speech was absolutely fantastic. I could not stop grinning for hours and hours.  Hekate   Aug-31-08 05:39 AM   #42 
  - He sounds like another academic who has trouble distinguishing between...  Kutjara   Aug-30-08 03:40 AM   #2 
  - What does he teach?  quantessd   Aug-30-08 03:49 AM   #4 
  - The class is Speech 364, Persuasion. The text would be dang useful for us!  mahina   Aug-30-08 03:53 AM   #5 
  - He's teaching "Persuasian?" Sounds to me like he maybe just likes to toss  GreenPartyVoter   Aug-30-08 08:51 PM   #30 
  - I wish...there's only one section,  mahina   Aug-30-08 04:19 AM   #8 
  - I'd drop the class.  DCKit   Aug-30-08 03:59 AM   #6 
  - A possible source: the Federal Election Commision website.  mwooldri   Aug-30-08 04:13 AM   #7 
  - Good idea, I checked fundrace.org and no info.  mahina   Aug-30-08 06:32 AM   #11 
  - i'd report him. REPORT HIM! he shouldn't be asking you who you're voting for  orleans   Aug-30-08 04:42 AM   #9 
  - report him for asking who they plan on voting for? that's ridiculous.  aikoaiko   Aug-30-08 09:04 PM   #32 
  - yes there is. especially if your grade rides on how you answer a conservative. n/t  orleans   Aug-30-08 10:31 PM   #36 
     - Participation is a gradeable activity, but,  aikoaiko   Aug-31-08 07:44 AM   #45 
  - LOL  Snarkturian Clone   Aug-30-08 09:31 PM   #35 
     - apparently you've never been in that situation. or if you were you  orleans   Aug-30-08 10:34 PM   #37 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-30-08 10:47 PM   #39 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-31-08 02:14 AM   #41 
  - Sounds like an interesting speech communications prof to me  depakid   Aug-30-08 04:55 AM   #10 
  - It's an interesting class.  mahina   Aug-30-08 06:34 AM   #12 
  - Though wasn't Debra Winger great in "Officer and a Gentleman"?  DailyGrind51   Aug-30-08 06:54 AM   #13 
  - Actually, most of the people I hear espousing that view are left-wingers.  Donald Ian Rankin   Aug-30-08 07:54 AM   #14 
  - And ironically that BS is used by the Right to attack science.  Odin2005   Aug-30-08 06:33 PM   #25 
  - Actually, most of the people I hear espousing that view are  Alcibiades   Aug-30-08 10:46 PM   #38 
  - Ask a scientist if science is subjective  kwolf68   Aug-30-08 07:59 AM   #15 
  - oh god, a PoMo  realisticphish   Aug-30-08 08:21 AM   #16 
  - I'll bite,  mahina   Aug-30-08 12:21 PM   #20 
     - post modern  realisticphish   Aug-30-08 06:17 PM   #22 
  - you have a lifetime to get even with bad profs AFTER you finish the class  TexasObserver   Aug-30-08 08:47 AM   #17 
  - Don't take him on at all while he is your teacher but...  norepubsin08   Aug-30-08 09:54 AM   #18 
  - Whoa.  mahina   Aug-30-08 12:20 PM   #19 
  - Be the bigger adult. Let it slide**nm  misanthrope   Aug-30-08 12:25 PM   #21 
  - (shrug) It's always a problem when idiots talk about science.  BlooInBloo   Aug-30-08 06:17 PM   #23 
  - Must be one of those Postmodernist idiots that think there is no knowable objective reality...  Odin2005   Aug-30-08 06:26 PM   #24 
  - I'm with realisticphish. Could be a postmodernist.  orangepeel68   Aug-30-08 06:34 PM   #26 
  - I have to go give Skinner some money now.  mahina   Aug-30-08 07:38 PM   #27 
     - Yes, get to know him better. He is most likely just offering a postmodern critique. Very normal.  readmoreoften   Aug-30-08 07:57 PM   #29 
  - Far more likely to be a constructivist. That means postmodernist. That means liberal.  readmoreoften   Aug-30-08 07:52 PM   #28 
  - As others said, he is likely a post-modernist. I too dabbled in social constructionism where all  aikoaiko   Aug-30-08 08:58 PM   #31 
  - He's not a winger, he's a rhetorician  alcibiades_mystery   Aug-30-08 09:10 PM   #33 
  - Getting a bit declarative there...  baby_mouse   Aug-31-08 05:52 AM   #43 
     - Seen it all before, y'know?  alcibiades_mystery   Aug-31-08 07:38 AM   #44 
  - Just say you're voting for Noam Chomsky and wait for his heart to stop.  TahitiNut   Aug-30-08 09:29 PM   #34 
  - .  SalmonChantedEvening   Aug-31-08 07:46 AM   #46 
  - (grin)  TahitiNut   Aug-31-08 10:32 AM   #48 
  - Hi Tahiti, I don't get it.  mahina   Aug-31-08 12:38 PM   #50 
  - He might well be a wingnut  Alcibiades   Aug-30-08 10:56 PM   #40 
  - Does he: Wear a mullet?!1 Have a red truck?!1 Flash his skin?!1  UTUSN   Aug-31-08 09:00 AM   #47 
  - Science = gut feel = subjective.  GoesTo11   Aug-31-08 10:41 AM   #49 
 

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