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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 02:09 AM
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101. Moses lead the Israelites out of slavery from Egypt?
that belongs in a Sunday school Bible study, not a world history course.
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  -Am I right in feeling sqeamish about this course outline? Wednesdays  Aug-21-08 07:06 PM   #0 
  - a quick read looked OK to me  AZDemDist6   Aug-21-08 07:10 PM   #1 
  - one line  realisticphish   Aug-21-08 07:10 PM   #2 
  - Are you denying that the Bible has an influence on English language cultures?  hedgehog   Aug-21-08 07:53 PM   #16 
     - whoa, dude, back off  realisticphish   Aug-21-08 08:12 PM   #21 
     - I didn't think a disagreement represented jumping down your throat.  hedgehog   Aug-21-08 08:21 PM   #26 
        - well  realisticphish   Aug-21-08 08:28 PM   #28 
     - "I don't think the archaeological evidence has confirmed this event"  bean fidhleir   Aug-22-08 03:30 PM   #78 
     - The syllabus says that the Bible is the history of the Israelites--  XemaSab   Aug-22-08 03:55 PM   #84 
  - Sounds about right.  Iggo   Aug-21-08 07:13 PM   #3 
  - I wouldn't freak, my kid's honors english class started out with the Quakers and the Puritans  lonestarnot   Aug-21-08 07:18 PM   #4 
  - I'm answering as a Unitarian  JustAnotherGen   Aug-21-08 07:24 PM   #5 
  - "Jesus was founder of Christianity" ??  willing dwarf   Aug-21-08 07:32 PM   #10 
  - I would agree  JustAnotherGen   Aug-21-08 07:52 PM   #15 
     - I beg to differ:  hedgehog   Aug-21-08 07:56 PM   #17 
        - I disagree  JustAnotherGen   Aug-21-08 08:32 PM   #30 
           - Well, you insist that Jesus would maintain strict kosher, but if you  hedgehog   Aug-21-08 08:42 PM   #32 
  - Paul would disagree.  rug   Aug-21-08 08:07 PM   #19 
  - There were believers in Jesus before Paul. Paul was actually  pegleg   Aug-21-08 08:12 PM   #22 
  - I thought it was interesting that the spread of Christianity is  JerseygirlCT   Aug-21-08 08:29 PM   #29 
  - Actually for 6th grade, that's pretty good.  Alexander   Aug-21-08 07:26 PM   #6 
  - personally, I think it's not the least bit subtle....  mike_c   Aug-21-08 07:27 PM   #7 
  - I'm cringing right along with you, mike  mitchum   Aug-21-08 08:16 PM   #24 
  - Don't forget that many think your opinion is myth also.  pegleg   Aug-21-08 10:25 PM   #41 
  - huh? I don't claim to believe in any mythical creatures, supernatural beings, etc...  mike_c   Aug-22-08 10:08 AM   #53 
     - Public schools belong to all the people, not just a select few  pegleg   Aug-22-08 11:06 AM   #54 
        - so those of us who support separation of church and state...  mike_c   Aug-22-08 11:27 AM   #57 
           - I totally believe in the separation of church and state, but i think  pegleg   Aug-22-08 11:40 AM   #60 
              - Sorry, but "the free exercise thereof" referred to freedom to *personally* practice  bean fidhleir   Aug-22-08 03:41 PM   #80 
                 - I certainly disagree. It says what it says. And allowing the recognition of religion  pegleg   Aug-22-08 06:55 PM   #91 
                    - I don't think you've thought through the implications  bean fidhleir   Aug-23-08 05:58 AM   #103 
  - Ummmmm, But That Is A Fact.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Aug-22-08 11:52 AM   #62 
  - exactly so-- there is no historical consensus that "Jesus" even existed...  mike_c   Aug-22-08 12:14 PM   #65 
     - If You Want To Use That Ignorance As Your Argument So Be It.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Aug-22-08 12:23 PM   #66 
        - ah, the standard fundy response....  mike_c   Aug-22-08 12:29 PM   #67 
           - You're Projecting.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Aug-22-08 12:52 PM   #69 
           - The term "christian taliban" is as credible as saying "atheist taliban  pegleg   Aug-22-08 01:56 PM   #70 
              - Absolutely Correct.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Aug-22-08 02:29 PM   #71 
              - What ridiculous statements do you hear the "atheist taliban" making?  Bornaginhooligan   Aug-22-08 04:33 PM   #88 
              - I'm pointing out how ridiculous the term "atheist taliban" is as well as anything taliban.  pegleg   Aug-22-08 06:28 PM   #90 
              - agreed-- but I make no claim of tolerance for religious delusions...  mike_c   Aug-22-08 07:29 PM   #92 
                 - No one should tolerate any philosophy or belief system or religion  pegleg   Aug-22-08 10:58 PM   #93 
           - You're a zealot.  spoony   Aug-22-08 11:31 PM   #95 
              - whenever someone rejects xtian religious delusions they're "zealots..."  mike_c   Aug-23-08 12:17 AM   #99 
                 - No, not "whenever someone," when you do, specifically.  spoony   Aug-23-08 04:53 AM   #102 
                    - I have no problem with owning that one....  mike_c   Aug-23-08 10:28 AM   #106 
  - Cringing? My mouth is on the floor  sandnsea   Aug-22-08 02:56 PM   #74 
  - Agreed. I would not allow my kid to remain in that school, if that reflects the norm there  bean fidhleir   Aug-22-08 03:50 PM   #81 
  - Oh yes, yes indeed.  ColbertWatcher   Aug-21-08 07:28 PM   #8 
  - Well, the course is called "World Studies"  Wednesdays   Aug-21-08 07:47 PM   #12 
  - Pfft. My mistake.  ColbertWatcher   Aug-21-08 07:51 PM   #13 
  - For a "World Studies" class it is very superficial on areas outside  csziggy   Aug-21-08 08:43 PM   #33 
  - I absolutely agree with you there. I think this would be the best  hedgehog   Aug-21-08 08:47 PM   #35 
  - You want a quick overview of "World History"  csziggy   Aug-21-08 09:01 PM   #36 
     - Breathtaking!  Wednesdays   Aug-21-08 09:22 PM   #38 
     - I was just looking for a good timeline, but that History for the Rest of Us  csziggy   Aug-21-08 09:25 PM   #39 
     - Cool! Thanks!  XemaSab   Aug-22-08 04:33 PM   #87 
  - #81 tripped me up too...  hootinholler   Aug-21-08 08:12 PM   #23 
  - It all looks fine to me, except for  Ron_Green   Aug-21-08 07:31 PM   #9 
  - I noticed that too. BC and AD are NOT preferred these days, rather BCE and CE.  kath   Aug-23-08 01:59 AM   #100 
  - Looks Fine to Me  NeedleCast   Aug-21-08 07:47 PM   #11 
  - I'd send a little note to the teacher  SheilaT   Aug-21-08 07:52 PM   #14 
  - When does the "Common Era" begin, just out of curiosity? :) nt  Romulox   Aug-22-08 11:12 AM   #55 
  - It begins with what used to be labelled  SheilaT   Aug-22-08 12:51 PM   #68 
     - Right, but my point is that it's just another euphemism for the exact same concept...nt  Romulox   Aug-22-08 02:49 PM   #73 
        - It's also the accepted  SheilaT   Aug-22-08 03:13 PM   #77 
  - Are people here insane?  spoony   Aug-22-08 11:33 PM   #96 
     - Yes. Yes they are. nt  piedmont   Aug-23-08 12:02 AM   #98 
  - It looks fine to me.  Blue_In_AK   Aug-21-08 08:02 PM   #18 
  - I would say that you are correct. But it is very subtle. Here's some notes:  readmoreoften   Aug-21-08 08:11 PM   #20 
  - WRT your #3, I completely missed that in my quick read...I wonder if Socratic dialog and  2KS2KHonda   Aug-21-08 08:23 PM   #27 
  - Even calling it the "old testament" is Christian-centric  bean fidhleir   Aug-22-08 03:54 PM   #83 
  - I'd accept it...if they agree to mention Alex the Great was gay.  2KS2KHonda   Aug-21-08 08:17 PM   #25 
  - I thought they started dating CE for "common era" instead of AD..  annabanana   Aug-21-08 08:38 PM   #31 
  - I've often wondered about that. How do we know that the Israelites  hedgehog   Aug-21-08 08:45 PM   #34 
  - For a 6th grade. A few minor nudges  tomg   Aug-21-08 09:11 PM   #37 
  - Amen.. Most teachers "run out of time" and end up skipping a LOT  SoCalDem   Aug-21-08 11:36 PM   #43 
  - That's a lot of religion for a world studies course  MorningGlow   Aug-21-08 09:38 PM   #40 
  - Line 28: the word "hero" is subjective.  otherlander   Aug-21-08 11:09 PM   #42 
  - Pretty widely accepted that slave labor was not extensively used in constructing the pyramids  Godhumor   Aug-22-08 02:15 AM   #47 
  - (shrug) It's 6th grade. Pretty much nothing learned in school is true....  BlooInBloo   Aug-21-08 11:46 PM   #44 
  - That's absoluttely true...history is the only subject that has to be completely relearned in college  Evoman   Aug-22-08 11:30 AM   #58 
  - Very ambitious outline, reminds me of the nuns of 1950. n/t  CK_John   Aug-22-08 12:00 AM   #45 
  - A few comments  Art_from_Ark   Aug-22-08 12:06 AM   #46 
  - As a former social studies and world geo. teacher  Godhumor   Aug-22-08 02:20 AM   #48 
  - You should be uncomfortable.  Progs Rock   Aug-22-08 02:42 AM   #49 
  - That was so funny  Wednesdays   Aug-22-08 06:49 AM   #51 
  - I don't mean to sound elitist or anything but most elementary schools whitewash history to the point  eshfemme   Aug-22-08 04:24 AM   #50 
  - I think it looks pretty inclusive  Dorian Gray   Aug-22-08 07:30 AM   #52 
  - Well, it's not up to modern scholarship standards.  Coventina   Aug-22-08 11:18 AM   #56 
  - There are some odd points , such as item 51  Gormy Cuss   Aug-22-08 11:35 AM   #59 
  - No, You're Not. There Was Nothing But Facts In There And I'm Amazed Someone Could Feel 'Squeamish'  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Aug-22-08 11:50 AM   #61 
  - 84 & 88 are rather interesting.  trotsky   Aug-22-08 11:57 AM   #63 
  - all I see is the A..D. & B.C. thing's been redefined --  elehhhhna   Aug-22-08 12:10 PM   #64 
  - 33 is incomplete. 80 is just wrong.  freestyle   Aug-22-08 02:48 PM   #72 
  - Perhaps "basis" or "main influence" is a better choice?  GreenPartyVoter   Aug-22-08 03:13 PM   #76 
  - It seems more or less okay. Any areas you feel uncertain about, make sure your kiddo knows what  GreenPartyVoter   Aug-22-08 03:11 PM   #75 
  - I see three flaws.  lumberjack_jeff   Aug-22-08 03:36 PM   #79 
  - Seems pretty Jesus-centered to me  XemaSab   Aug-22-08 03:54 PM   #82 
  - I find that syllabus to be unacceptably loaded. I wouldn't want my kid to be taught  bean fidhleir   Aug-22-08 04:10 PM   #85 
  - I am a Christian and that seems too Christian oriented to me.  SmileyRose   Aug-22-08 04:24 PM   #86 
  - Let's see.  Bornaginhooligan   Aug-22-08 05:05 PM   #89 
  - Jesus did not found Xianity. Others did.  roody   Aug-22-08 11:18 PM   #94 
  - Uhhh, I'm a historian. I will pick on one particular issue.  michele77   Aug-22-08 11:43 PM   #97 
  - Moses lead the Israelites out of slavery from Egypt?  Lorien   Aug-23-08 02:09 AM   #101 
  - ? is Africa still "the dark continent"? and what about South America and Asia?  ima_sinnic   Aug-23-08 06:13 AM   #104 
  - a bit clunky in phrasing, and not exactly questions i'd choose, but good enough for 6th grade.  NuttyFluffers   Aug-23-08 06:29 AM   #105 

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