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56. Well, it's not up to modern scholarship standards.
"BC" & "AD" are no longer used in academia.
It's BCE & CE now, standing for "Before Common Era" & "Common Era" although it's really the same system.

Also, it's incorrect to call the Bible the history of the Hebrew people. The Christians used the Hebrew Scriptures as part of their Bible, as the Old Testament. But it's rather insulting to Jewish people to affix Christian teminology onto their cultural creation. When referring to the Old Testament from a Hebrew/Jewish perspective you should say "Hebrew Scriptures".

There might be more, but those two things leapt out at me.
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  -Am I right in feeling sqeamish about this course outline? Wednesdays  Aug-21-08 07:06 PM   #0 
  - a quick read looked OK to me  AZDemDist6   Aug-21-08 07:10 PM   #1 
  - one line  realisticphish   Aug-21-08 07:10 PM   #2 
  - Are you denying that the Bible has an influence on English language cultures?  hedgehog   Aug-21-08 07:53 PM   #16 
     - whoa, dude, back off  realisticphish   Aug-21-08 08:12 PM   #21 
     - I didn't think a disagreement represented jumping down your throat.  hedgehog   Aug-21-08 08:21 PM   #26 
        - well  realisticphish   Aug-21-08 08:28 PM   #28 
     - "I don't think the archaeological evidence has confirmed this event"  bean fidhleir   Aug-22-08 03:30 PM   #78 
     - The syllabus says that the Bible is the history of the Israelites--  XemaSab   Aug-22-08 03:55 PM   #84 
  - Sounds about right.  Iggo   Aug-21-08 07:13 PM   #3 
  - I wouldn't freak, my kid's honors english class started out with the Quakers and the Puritans  lonestarnot   Aug-21-08 07:18 PM   #4 
  - I'm answering as a Unitarian  JustAnotherGen   Aug-21-08 07:24 PM   #5 
  - "Jesus was founder of Christianity" ??  willing dwarf   Aug-21-08 07:32 PM   #10 
  - I would agree  JustAnotherGen   Aug-21-08 07:52 PM   #15 
     - I beg to differ:  hedgehog   Aug-21-08 07:56 PM   #17 
        - I disagree  JustAnotherGen   Aug-21-08 08:32 PM   #30 
           - Well, you insist that Jesus would maintain strict kosher, but if you  hedgehog   Aug-21-08 08:42 PM   #32 
  - Paul would disagree.  rug   Aug-21-08 08:07 PM   #19 
  - There were believers in Jesus before Paul. Paul was actually  pegleg   Aug-21-08 08:12 PM   #22 
  - I thought it was interesting that the spread of Christianity is  JerseygirlCT   Aug-21-08 08:29 PM   #29 
  - Actually for 6th grade, that's pretty good.  Alexander   Aug-21-08 07:26 PM   #6 
  - personally, I think it's not the least bit subtle....  mike_c   Aug-21-08 07:27 PM   #7 
  - I'm cringing right along with you, mike  mitchum   Aug-21-08 08:16 PM   #24 
  - Don't forget that many think your opinion is myth also.  pegleg   Aug-21-08 10:25 PM   #41 
  - huh? I don't claim to believe in any mythical creatures, supernatural beings, etc...  mike_c   Aug-22-08 10:08 AM   #53 
     - Public schools belong to all the people, not just a select few  pegleg   Aug-22-08 11:06 AM   #54 
        - so those of us who support separation of church and state...  mike_c   Aug-22-08 11:27 AM   #57 
           - I totally believe in the separation of church and state, but i think  pegleg   Aug-22-08 11:40 AM   #60 
              - Sorry, but "the free exercise thereof" referred to freedom to *personally* practice  bean fidhleir   Aug-22-08 03:41 PM   #80 
                 - I certainly disagree. It says what it says. And allowing the recognition of religion  pegleg   Aug-22-08 06:55 PM   #91 
                    - I don't think you've thought through the implications  bean fidhleir   Aug-23-08 05:58 AM   #103 
  - Ummmmm, But That Is A Fact.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Aug-22-08 11:52 AM   #62 
  - exactly so-- there is no historical consensus that "Jesus" even existed...  mike_c   Aug-22-08 12:14 PM   #65 
     - If You Want To Use That Ignorance As Your Argument So Be It.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Aug-22-08 12:23 PM   #66 
        - ah, the standard fundy response....  mike_c   Aug-22-08 12:29 PM   #67 
           - You're Projecting.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Aug-22-08 12:52 PM   #69 
           - The term "christian taliban" is as credible as saying "atheist taliban  pegleg   Aug-22-08 01:56 PM   #70 
              - Absolutely Correct.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Aug-22-08 02:29 PM   #71 
              - What ridiculous statements do you hear the "atheist taliban" making?  Bornaginhooligan   Aug-22-08 04:33 PM   #88 
              - I'm pointing out how ridiculous the term "atheist taliban" is as well as anything taliban.  pegleg   Aug-22-08 06:28 PM   #90 
              - agreed-- but I make no claim of tolerance for religious delusions...  mike_c   Aug-22-08 07:29 PM   #92 
                 - No one should tolerate any philosophy or belief system or religion  pegleg   Aug-22-08 10:58 PM   #93 
           - You're a zealot.  spoony   Aug-22-08 11:31 PM   #95 
              - whenever someone rejects xtian religious delusions they're "zealots..."  mike_c   Aug-23-08 12:17 AM   #99 
                 - No, not "whenever someone," when you do, specifically.  spoony   Aug-23-08 04:53 AM   #102 
                    - I have no problem with owning that one....  mike_c   Aug-23-08 10:28 AM   #106 
  - Cringing? My mouth is on the floor  sandnsea   Aug-22-08 02:56 PM   #74 
  - Agreed. I would not allow my kid to remain in that school, if that reflects the norm there  bean fidhleir   Aug-22-08 03:50 PM   #81 
  - Oh yes, yes indeed.  ColbertWatcher   Aug-21-08 07:28 PM   #8 
  - Well, the course is called "World Studies"  Wednesdays   Aug-21-08 07:47 PM   #12 
  - Pfft. My mistake.  ColbertWatcher   Aug-21-08 07:51 PM   #13 
  - For a "World Studies" class it is very superficial on areas outside  csziggy   Aug-21-08 08:43 PM   #33 
  - I absolutely agree with you there. I think this would be the best  hedgehog   Aug-21-08 08:47 PM   #35 
  - You want a quick overview of "World History"  csziggy   Aug-21-08 09:01 PM   #36 
     - Breathtaking!  Wednesdays   Aug-21-08 09:22 PM   #38 
     - I was just looking for a good timeline, but that History for the Rest of Us  csziggy   Aug-21-08 09:25 PM   #39 
     - Cool! Thanks!  XemaSab   Aug-22-08 04:33 PM   #87 
  - #81 tripped me up too...  hootinholler   Aug-21-08 08:12 PM   #23 
  - It all looks fine to me, except for  Ron_Green   Aug-21-08 07:31 PM   #9 
  - I noticed that too. BC and AD are NOT preferred these days, rather BCE and CE.  kath   Aug-23-08 01:59 AM   #100 
  - Looks Fine to Me  NeedleCast   Aug-21-08 07:47 PM   #11 
  - I'd send a little note to the teacher  SheilaT   Aug-21-08 07:52 PM   #14 
  - When does the "Common Era" begin, just out of curiosity? :) nt  Romulox   Aug-22-08 11:12 AM   #55 
  - It begins with what used to be labelled  SheilaT   Aug-22-08 12:51 PM   #68 
     - Right, but my point is that it's just another euphemism for the exact same concept...nt  Romulox   Aug-22-08 02:49 PM   #73 
        - It's also the accepted  SheilaT   Aug-22-08 03:13 PM   #77 
  - Are people here insane?  spoony   Aug-22-08 11:33 PM   #96 
     - Yes. Yes they are. nt  piedmont   Aug-23-08 12:02 AM   #98 
  - It looks fine to me.  Blue_In_AK   Aug-21-08 08:02 PM   #18 
  - I would say that you are correct. But it is very subtle. Here's some notes:  readmoreoften   Aug-21-08 08:11 PM   #20 
  - WRT your #3, I completely missed that in my quick read...I wonder if Socratic dialog and  2KS2KHonda   Aug-21-08 08:23 PM   #27 
  - Even calling it the "old testament" is Christian-centric  bean fidhleir   Aug-22-08 03:54 PM   #83 
  - I'd accept it...if they agree to mention Alex the Great was gay.  2KS2KHonda   Aug-21-08 08:17 PM   #25 
  - I thought they started dating CE for "common era" instead of AD..  annabanana   Aug-21-08 08:38 PM   #31 
  - I've often wondered about that. How do we know that the Israelites  hedgehog   Aug-21-08 08:45 PM   #34 
  - For a 6th grade. A few minor nudges  tomg   Aug-21-08 09:11 PM   #37 
  - Amen.. Most teachers "run out of time" and end up skipping a LOT  SoCalDem   Aug-21-08 11:36 PM   #43 
  - That's a lot of religion for a world studies course  MorningGlow   Aug-21-08 09:38 PM   #40 
  - Line 28: the word "hero" is subjective.  otherlander   Aug-21-08 11:09 PM   #42 
  - Pretty widely accepted that slave labor was not extensively used in constructing the pyramids  Godhumor   Aug-22-08 02:15 AM   #47 
  - (shrug) It's 6th grade. Pretty much nothing learned in school is true....  BlooInBloo   Aug-21-08 11:46 PM   #44 
  - That's absoluttely true...history is the only subject that has to be completely relearned in college  Evoman   Aug-22-08 11:30 AM   #58 
  - Very ambitious outline, reminds me of the nuns of 1950. n/t  CK_John   Aug-22-08 12:00 AM   #45 
  - A few comments  Art_from_Ark   Aug-22-08 12:06 AM   #46 
  - As a former social studies and world geo. teacher  Godhumor   Aug-22-08 02:20 AM   #48 
  - You should be uncomfortable.  Progs Rock   Aug-22-08 02:42 AM   #49 
  - That was so funny  Wednesdays   Aug-22-08 06:49 AM   #51 
  - I don't mean to sound elitist or anything but most elementary schools whitewash history to the point  eshfemme   Aug-22-08 04:24 AM   #50 
  - I think it looks pretty inclusive  Dorian Gray   Aug-22-08 07:30 AM   #52 
  - Well, it's not up to modern scholarship standards.  Coventina   Aug-22-08 11:18 AM   #56 
  - There are some odd points , such as item 51  Gormy Cuss   Aug-22-08 11:35 AM   #59 
  - No, You're Not. There Was Nothing But Facts In There And I'm Amazed Someone Could Feel 'Squeamish'  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Aug-22-08 11:50 AM   #61 
  - 84 & 88 are rather interesting.  trotsky   Aug-22-08 11:57 AM   #63 
  - all I see is the A..D. & B.C. thing's been redefined --  elehhhhna   Aug-22-08 12:10 PM   #64 
  - 33 is incomplete. 80 is just wrong.  freestyle   Aug-22-08 02:48 PM   #72 
  - Perhaps "basis" or "main influence" is a better choice?  GreenPartyVoter   Aug-22-08 03:13 PM   #76 
  - It seems more or less okay. Any areas you feel uncertain about, make sure your kiddo knows what  GreenPartyVoter   Aug-22-08 03:11 PM   #75 
  - I see three flaws.  lumberjack_jeff   Aug-22-08 03:36 PM   #79 
  - Seems pretty Jesus-centered to me  XemaSab   Aug-22-08 03:54 PM   #82 
  - I find that syllabus to be unacceptably loaded. I wouldn't want my kid to be taught  bean fidhleir   Aug-22-08 04:10 PM   #85 
  - I am a Christian and that seems too Christian oriented to me.  SmileyRose   Aug-22-08 04:24 PM   #86 
  - Let's see.  Bornaginhooligan   Aug-22-08 05:05 PM   #89 
  - Jesus did not found Xianity. Others did.  roody   Aug-22-08 11:18 PM   #94 
  - Uhhh, I'm a historian. I will pick on one particular issue.  michele77   Aug-22-08 11:43 PM   #97 
  - Moses lead the Israelites out of slavery from Egypt?  Lorien   Aug-23-08 02:09 AM   #101 
  - ? is Africa still "the dark continent"? and what about South America and Asia?  ima_sinnic   Aug-23-08 06:13 AM   #104 
  - a bit clunky in phrasing, and not exactly questions i'd choose, but good enough for 6th grade.  NuttyFluffers   Aug-23-08 06:29 AM   #105 
 

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