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Spike89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 03:39 PM
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36. promised advancements part of the problem
Ironically, the future of solar is kinda in the way of the present. The problem is that current solar is only about 12-15% efficient. Recent "breakthroughs" promise 20% soon. With high prices that are tied to low production numbers, it just doesn't make sense for most people to spend the money, especially when they know that the price/efficiency model could radically shift overnight.
In car terms, its like a 300 MPG car, but it cost $250,000 and everyone knows that a 500 MPG car that costs $150,000 is on the drawing board. Few people will buy the first car. With solar, the problem is that because people aren't buying the current technology, the costs for the next generation are staying high and discouraging investment. It'll happen, but that is part of why it seems so slow.
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  - promised advancements part of the problem  Spike89   Aug-19-08 03:39 PM   #36 

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