lumberjack_jeff
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Sun Aug-17-08 08:39 PM
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The pricing for water should be such that the first 1000 gallons or so should cost virtually nothing.
The price should then escalate quickly to encourage conservation.
Water is the commons. Those who don't contribute to its wellbeing (by paying for its continued availability) should be cut off from the resource.
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| -Should city shut off water if you can't pay? |
NNN0LHI |
Aug-17-08 11:35 AM |
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Absolutely NOT! |
lonestarnot |
Aug-17-08 11:36 AM |
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Va. Beach turned off the water for my elderly mother with back debt less than $100... |
MookieWilson |
Aug-17-08 11:37 AM |
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Well it worked didn't it. |
SmileyRose |
Aug-17-08 11:43 AM |
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Making her get into a cab with a stranger and drive about 15 miles to City Hall was rubbing it in.. |
MookieWilson |
Aug-17-08 11:46 AM |
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The new Christian way MookieWilson. A little shock with that awe! |
lonestarnot |
Aug-17-08 11:56 AM |
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I just have to ask |
Retired AF Dem |
Aug-17-08 12:44 PM |
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Some Moms are in other states.......... |
SmileyRose |
Aug-17-08 01:14 PM |
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She didn't tell me and I live 5 hours away. I found the paperwork after she died. |
MookieWilson |
Aug-17-08 02:56 PM |
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I reiterate her FUCK YOU, you insensitive know-nothing asshole. |
Zhade |
Aug-18-08 12:53 AM |
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Personally |
SmileyRose |
Aug-17-08 01:06 PM |
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Mom was good in covering up her dementia. nt |
MookieWilson |
Aug-17-08 02:58 PM |
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We know WHY they do it, the question is SHOULD they |
demwing |
Aug-17-08 11:50 AM |
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I agree. It's a basic concern to aid foundations in the 3rd world. |
madeline_con |
Aug-17-08 11:44 AM |
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Fundamental necessities should be paid for like schools |
demwing |
Aug-17-08 11:45 AM |
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Food is a fundamental necessity as well, should we get free vittles |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-17-08 11:54 AM |
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There's a scary thought. The Department of Food. |
cherokeeprogressive |
Aug-17-08 12:07 PM |
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that is scary... |
nickinSTL |
Aug-17-08 12:43 PM |
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Sure, why not, if you're talking healthy food? |
demwing |
Aug-17-08 12:10 PM |
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Honestly I wasn't meaning to rib you, I thought you were serious. |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-17-08 01:22 PM |
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We already depend on the government to provide |
demwing |
Aug-17-08 02:18 PM |
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I don't know the answers to those questions, perhaps you do but let me reply with another question: |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-17-08 03:18 PM |
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Clean water, like health care, is a RIGHT |
alarimer |
Aug-17-08 05:27 PM |
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So should food, right? How about rent? I guess I missed that part of the Constitution |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-17-08 08:31 PM |
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Perhaps you should study up on the Constitution |
demwing |
Aug-18-08 12:34 AM |
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Lots of kids do, through the Dept of Ag. |
donco6 |
Aug-17-08 02:58 PM |
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Basic fuel to survive? Absolutely. |
Zhade |
Aug-18-08 12:54 AM |
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I think it would depend on the circumstances. |
pennylane100 |
Aug-17-08 11:46 AM |
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It's illegal in lots of places to turn off the heat in the winter... |
BlooInBloo |
Aug-17-08 11:46 AM |
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No. A lien against the property can be assessed ... as long as a sale isn't FORCED. |
TahitiNut |
Aug-17-08 11:55 AM |
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Many municipalities would have to reassess how they bill |
flvegan |
Aug-17-08 01:19 PM |
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a person is gonna sit in their home and die of thirst instead of going to neighbors |
seabeyond |
Aug-17-08 12:00 PM |
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Some people are shut-ins |
NNN0LHI |
Aug-17-08 12:59 PM |
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It can be very hard on kids. |
tofunut |
Aug-17-08 12:01 PM |
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Here's a compromise: if you don't pay your bill (for a LONG TIME) |
kestrel91316 |
Aug-17-08 12:21 PM |
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Our water district works a bit like your last scenario...there's a minimum charge |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-17-08 01:28 PM |
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Sure. Money trumps everything |
lunatica |
Aug-17-08 12:34 PM |
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Brava! Very well said. |
bean fidhleir |
Aug-17-08 04:32 PM |
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that's the best suggestion yet |
lunatica |
Aug-17-08 05:19 PM |
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only if... |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Aug-17-08 12:39 PM |
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THIS? Is why I think billionaires, and any system that allows them, are evil. EVIL. That they can |
WinkyDink |
Aug-17-08 12:42 PM |
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There should be an emergency parachute for anyone who HONESTLY |
napi21 |
Aug-17-08 12:48 PM |
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We need an emergency fund for this. n/t |
rucky |
Aug-17-08 01:15 PM |
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The question should be "should water be paid for from general taxation and free at point of use"? |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Aug-17-08 01:17 PM |
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Only if it's rationed. |
SmileyRose |
Aug-17-08 01:30 PM |
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I had a battle with the city of Cleveland water department |
Ikonoklast |
Aug-17-08 01:27 PM |
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No. The necessities of life should NEVER be denied |
Naturyl |
Aug-17-08 02:02 PM |
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That Was An Incredible Tragedy |
KharmaTrain |
Aug-17-08 02:15 PM |
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Almost 800 people died and the President and FEMA didn't react |
ben_meyers |
Aug-17-08 02:36 PM |
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And let's not forget: CLINTON was president then. He was as callous as b*s* after Katrina. |
Zhade |
Aug-18-08 12:58 AM |
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When I was a kid, water was the only utility that wasn't allowed to do shut offs for nonpayment. |
Gormy Cuss |
Aug-17-08 02:57 PM |
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Our water is owned by a speculator. They'd turn it off without a |
alfredo |
Aug-17-08 03:00 PM |
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Hmm. . . |
TheFriendlyAnarchist |
Aug-17-08 03:08 PM |
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No, the first acre-foot or so should be free for residential consumption |
The Inquisitive |
Aug-17-08 03:12 PM |
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That sounds like a workable idea. Give the basic amount needed |
Cleita |
Aug-17-08 03:25 PM |
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No, it should never be turned off |
supernova |
Aug-17-08 03:14 PM |
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Seems to me that water should be free to everyone. The city should find |
Cleita |
Aug-17-08 03:23 PM |
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Then people would not value it at all. We need to encourage conservation. nt |
MookieWilson |
Aug-17-08 06:01 PM |
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It can be rationed you know. You don't have to deny people water because |
Cleita |
Aug-17-08 06:20 PM |
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A real social safety net would supply the essentials for free... |
Orsino |
Aug-17-08 03:32 PM |
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absolutely not |
galledgoblin |
Aug-17-08 03:40 PM |
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um...all that infrastructure to DELIVER it sure does cost |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Aug-17-08 03:43 PM |
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yeah, I understand that |
galledgoblin |
Aug-17-08 03:47 PM |
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maybe...but maintenance IS expensive |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Aug-17-08 03:50 PM |
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the Southeast is more moist than the Southwest, but it's still not as moist |
galledgoblin |
Aug-17-08 03:58 PM |
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ATL is currently undergoing a $3.9BILLION |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Aug-17-08 04:09 PM |
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Our water service was shut off over a $51 bill... |
Earth_First |
Aug-17-08 04:10 PM |
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Out here, if you miss 3 months payment they pull the meter and it is $800 to get it put back. |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-17-08 08:33 PM |
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Its too bad there is no way to restrict use per day -- say 10 gallons/person. |
aikoaiko |
Aug-17-08 05:45 PM |
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Yes. But.... |
lumberjack_jeff |
Aug-17-08 08:39 PM |
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A living ration of water should be free. After that you pay for usage. |
bemildred |
Aug-17-08 09:04 PM |
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Almost immoral? It's HOMICIDE. |
Zhade |
Aug-18-08 12:52 AM |
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But, of course. |
Cerridwen |
Aug-18-08 12:54 AM |
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thanks for this link - awful thing to be without water |
mdmc |
Aug-21-08 08:30 PM |
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