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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 11:46 AM
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8. It's illegal in lots of places to turn off the heat in the winter...
Edited on Sun Aug-17-08 11:46 AM by BlooInBloo
I would have assumed that water was similar, but that's just an assumption.


EDIT: Subject typo.
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  -Should city shut off water if you can't pay? NNN0LHI  Aug-17-08 11:35 AM   #0 
  - Absolutely NOT!  lonestarnot   Aug-17-08 11:36 AM   #1 
  - Va. Beach turned off the water for my elderly mother with back debt less than $100...  MookieWilson   Aug-17-08 11:37 AM   #2 
  - Well it worked didn't it.  SmileyRose   Aug-17-08 11:43 AM   #3 
     - Making her get into a cab with a stranger and drive about 15 miles to City Hall was rubbing it in..  MookieWilson   Aug-17-08 11:46 AM   #6 
     - The new Christian way MookieWilson. A little shock with that awe!  lonestarnot   Aug-17-08 11:56 AM   #12 
     - I just have to ask  Retired AF Dem   Aug-17-08 12:44 PM   #22 
     - Some Moms are in other states..........  SmileyRose   Aug-17-08 01:14 PM   #26 
     - She didn't tell me and I live 5 hours away. I found the paperwork after she died.  MookieWilson   Aug-17-08 02:56 PM   #38 
     - I reiterate her FUCK YOU, you insensitive know-nothing asshole.  Zhade   Aug-18-08 12:53 AM   #69 
     - Personally  SmileyRose   Aug-17-08 01:06 PM   #25 
        - Mom was good in covering up her dementia. nt  MookieWilson   Aug-17-08 02:58 PM   #40 
     - We know WHY they do it, the question is SHOULD they  demwing   Aug-17-08 11:50 AM   #9 
  - I agree. It's a basic concern to aid foundations in the 3rd world.  madeline_con   Aug-17-08 11:44 AM   #4 
  - Fundamental necessities should be paid for like schools  demwing   Aug-17-08 11:45 AM   #5 
  - Food is a fundamental necessity as well, should we get free vittles  2KS2KHonda   Aug-17-08 11:54 AM   #10 
     - There's a scary thought. The Department of Food.  cherokeeprogressive   Aug-17-08 12:07 PM   #15 
     - that is scary...  nickinSTL   Aug-17-08 12:43 PM   #21 
     - Sure, why not, if you're talking healthy food?  demwing   Aug-17-08 12:10 PM   #16 
     - Honestly I wasn't meaning to rib you, I thought you were serious.  2KS2KHonda   Aug-17-08 01:22 PM   #30 
        - We already depend on the government to provide  demwing   Aug-17-08 02:18 PM   #36 
        - I don't know the answers to those questions, perhaps you do but let me reply with another question:  2KS2KHonda   Aug-17-08 03:18 PM   #46 
        - Clean water, like health care, is a RIGHT  alarimer   Aug-17-08 05:27 PM   #59 
           - So should food, right? How about rent? I guess I missed that part of the Constitution  2KS2KHonda   Aug-17-08 08:31 PM   #63 
              - Perhaps you should study up on the Constitution  demwing   Aug-18-08 12:34 AM   #67 
     - Lots of kids do, through the Dept of Ag.  donco6   Aug-17-08 02:58 PM   #41 
     - Basic fuel to survive? Absolutely.  Zhade   Aug-18-08 12:54 AM   #71 
  - I think it would depend on the circumstances.  pennylane100   Aug-17-08 11:46 AM   #7 
  - It's illegal in lots of places to turn off the heat in the winter...  BlooInBloo   Aug-17-08 11:46 AM   #8 
  - No. A lien against the property can be assessed ... as long as a sale isn't FORCED.  TahitiNut   Aug-17-08 11:55 AM   #11 
  - Many municipalities would have to reassess how they bill  flvegan   Aug-17-08 01:19 PM   #29 
  - a person is gonna sit in their home and die of thirst instead of going to neighbors  seabeyond   Aug-17-08 12:00 PM   #13 
  - Some people are shut-ins  NNN0LHI   Aug-17-08 12:59 PM   #24 
  - It can be very hard on kids.  tofunut   Aug-17-08 12:01 PM   #14 
  - Here's a compromise: if you don't pay your bill (for a LONG TIME)  kestrel91316   Aug-17-08 12:21 PM   #17 
  - Our water district works a bit like your last scenario...there's a minimum charge  2KS2KHonda   Aug-17-08 01:28 PM   #32 
  - Sure. Money trumps everything  lunatica   Aug-17-08 12:34 PM   #18 
  - Brava! Very well said.  bean fidhleir   Aug-17-08 04:32 PM   #57 
     - that's the best suggestion yet  lunatica   Aug-17-08 05:19 PM   #58 
  - only if...  ProdigalJunkMail   Aug-17-08 12:39 PM   #19 
  - THIS? Is why I think billionaires, and any system that allows them, are evil. EVIL. That they can  WinkyDink   Aug-17-08 12:42 PM   #20 
  - There should be an emergency parachute for anyone who HONESTLY  napi21   Aug-17-08 12:48 PM   #23 
  - We need an emergency fund for this. n/t  rucky   Aug-17-08 01:15 PM   #27 
  - The question should be "should water be paid for from general taxation and free at point of use"?  Donald Ian Rankin   Aug-17-08 01:17 PM   #28 
  - Only if it's rationed.  SmileyRose   Aug-17-08 01:30 PM   #33 
  - I had a battle with the city of Cleveland water department  Ikonoklast   Aug-17-08 01:27 PM   #31 
  - No. The necessities of life should NEVER be denied  Naturyl   Aug-17-08 02:02 PM   #34 
  - That Was An Incredible Tragedy  KharmaTrain   Aug-17-08 02:15 PM   #35 
  - Almost 800 people died and the President and FEMA didn't react  ben_meyers   Aug-17-08 02:36 PM   #37 
     - And let's not forget: CLINTON was president then. He was as callous as b*s* after Katrina.  Zhade   Aug-18-08 12:58 AM   #72 
  - When I was a kid, water was the only utility that wasn't allowed to do shut offs for nonpayment.  Gormy Cuss   Aug-17-08 02:57 PM   #39 
  - Our water is owned by a speculator. They'd turn it off without a  alfredo   Aug-17-08 03:00 PM   #42 
  - Hmm. . .  TheFriendlyAnarchist   Aug-17-08 03:08 PM   #43 
  - No, the first acre-foot or so should be free for residential consumption  The Inquisitive   Aug-17-08 03:12 PM   #44 
  - That sounds like a workable idea. Give the basic amount needed  Cleita   Aug-17-08 03:25 PM   #48 
  - No, it should never be turned off  supernova   Aug-17-08 03:14 PM   #45 
  - Seems to me that water should be free to everyone. The city should find  Cleita   Aug-17-08 03:23 PM   #47 
  - Then people would not value it at all. We need to encourage conservation. nt  MookieWilson   Aug-17-08 06:01 PM   #61 
     - It can be rationed you know. You don't have to deny people water because  Cleita   Aug-17-08 06:20 PM   #62 
  - A real social safety net would supply the essentials for free...  Orsino   Aug-17-08 03:32 PM   #49 
  - absolutely not  galledgoblin   Aug-17-08 03:40 PM   #50 
  - um...all that infrastructure to DELIVER it sure does cost  ProdigalJunkMail   Aug-17-08 03:43 PM   #51 
     - yeah, I understand that  galledgoblin   Aug-17-08 03:47 PM   #52 
        - maybe...but maintenance IS expensive  ProdigalJunkMail   Aug-17-08 03:50 PM   #53 
           - the Southeast is more moist than the Southwest, but it's still not as moist  galledgoblin   Aug-17-08 03:58 PM   #54 
              - ATL is currently undergoing a $3.9BILLION  ProdigalJunkMail   Aug-17-08 04:09 PM   #55 
  - Our water service was shut off over a $51 bill...  Earth_First   Aug-17-08 04:10 PM   #56 
  - Out here, if you miss 3 months payment they pull the meter and it is $800 to get it put back.  2KS2KHonda   Aug-17-08 08:33 PM   #64 
  - Its too bad there is no way to restrict use per day -- say 10 gallons/person.  aikoaiko   Aug-17-08 05:45 PM   #60 
  - Yes. But....  lumberjack_jeff   Aug-17-08 08:39 PM   #65 
  - A living ration of water should be free. After that you pay for usage.  bemildred   Aug-17-08 09:04 PM   #66 
  - Almost immoral? It's HOMICIDE.  Zhade   Aug-18-08 12:52 AM   #68 
  - But, of course.  Cerridwen   Aug-18-08 12:54 AM   #70 
  - thanks for this link - awful thing to be without water  mdmc   Aug-21-08 08:30 PM   #73 
 

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