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GTurck Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 08:46 AM
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67. Since reading...
"Conversations With God" (the entire set) I have come to the belief that organized religion is not the best way to understand Creation and the Creator behind it. Our understandings and theologies are simply too narrow and immature. I do believe in "God" but the nature and intelligence of that entity is beyond my ability to contain and I must accept that and live as moral and principled life as I am able at this moment and to learn how to expand all that for the next moment. I refuse to define a spirit.
I also believe that it is time to start taking responsibility for the things that we human beings do and stop blaming "God" for our misbehaviors.
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  -Do you believe in God? FatDave  Aug-16-08 10:15 PM   #0 
  - goddess  peacebird   Aug-16-08 10:17 PM   #1 
  - God wold not go near that bs .  rwheeler31   Aug-16-08 10:18 PM   #2 
  - Yes and he has a TERRIBLE sense of humor.  sharesunited   Aug-16-08 10:19 PM   #3 
  - ...and when I die, I expect to find him laughing....  phostur   Aug-18-08 12:20 PM   #111 
  - I think the correct answer to that question...  skids   Aug-16-08 10:21 PM   #4 
  - I think that if you're asking that question...  FatDave   Aug-16-08 10:27 PM   #7 
  - Not necessarily...  skids   Aug-16-08 10:31 PM   #10 
     - I suppose.  FatDave   Aug-16-08 10:54 PM   #19 
  - choices 3 and 4 are the same.  quantessd   Aug-17-08 05:14 AM   #57 
  - Does god really care whether we believe in him?  bemildred   Aug-16-08 10:22 PM   #5 
  - According to a great many believers, that is in fact the only thing He cares about  FatDave   Aug-16-08 10:31 PM   #9 
  - Is that called irony??  cliffordu   Aug-16-08 10:45 PM   #15 
  - Probably !  Marrah_G   Aug-16-08 11:33 PM   #32 
  - I believe in smurfs n/t  flamingdem   Aug-16-08 10:22 PM   #6 
  - Oh, I LOVE thiose things! ....  Ghost in the Machine   Aug-17-08 06:04 AM   #63 
  - The Great Spirit, IS-ness, the very essence of Being ....  TahitiNut   Aug-16-08 10:29 PM   #8 
  - Yes, I believe in God  tammywammy   Aug-16-08 10:32 PM   #11 
  - You mean it's YOUR fault?  TahitiNut   Aug-16-08 11:14 PM   #25 
  - The Jesus myth is recurring --- with different names, of course . . .  defendandprotect   Aug-16-08 11:29 PM   #28 
  - Large parts of the Torah and the Jebus myth are lifted  FKA MNChimpH8R   Aug-17-08 01:03 AM   #48 
     - Right . . . and they were based on oral traditions ---  defendandprotect   Aug-17-08 01:19 AM   #51 
     - Hey -- There was only one magical person in the history of Planet Earth  Oregonian   Aug-17-08 09:55 PM   #83 
     - Wait a minute, you're saying they stole it?!  pokerfan   Aug-18-08 12:17 AM   #95 
  - agreed  JVS   Aug-17-08 12:25 AM   #41 
  - Yes. n/t  OhioChick   Aug-16-08 10:34 PM   #12 
  - No. Hell no, For why, read Sam Harris' "The End of Faith."  FKA MNChimpH8R   Aug-16-08 10:42 PM   #13 
  - I love that "passage"  FatDave   Aug-16-08 11:02 PM   #23 
  - I don't believe in the anthropomorphic conception of a "higher power."  vixengrl   Aug-16-08 10:42 PM   #14 
  - I believe in the Creator as the supreme being.  Bobbieo   Aug-16-08 10:48 PM   #18 
  - . . . . and who created the "Creator" . . . ???  defendandprotect   Aug-16-08 11:30 PM   #29 
  - vixengrl...  FatDave   Aug-16-08 11:17 PM   #26 
  - Yes! That sums it up for me, in a nutshell!  CLW   Aug-17-08 11:10 PM   #90 
  - I didn't accept a lot of things my parents told me, and they didn't consign me to...  BlooInBloo   Aug-16-08 10:46 PM   #16 
  - Nope.  Mojambo   Aug-16-08 10:47 PM   #17 
  - No - Buddhist here  mtf80123   Aug-16-08 11:00 PM   #20 
  - Yes. Absolutely.  Tutonic   Aug-16-08 11:01 PM   #21 
  - Which one?  Bill McBlueState   Aug-16-08 11:02 PM   #22 
  - Are any of them commonly referred to as (capital G) God?  FatDave   Aug-16-08 11:09 PM   #24 
     - You run into trouble when you conflate "Judeo" and "Christian" together in the first place  Chovexani   Aug-17-08 12:32 AM   #43 
  - Yes, but...  derby378   Aug-16-08 11:20 PM   #27 
  - A Belief System is the end . . . not the beginning of all learning ---  defendandprotect   Aug-16-08 11:32 PM   #30 
     - Ever watch DOGMA?  derby378   Aug-17-08 08:49 AM   #68 
        - It's a movie, isn't it? ---  defendandprotect   Aug-17-08 01:28 PM   #71 
        - My karma ran over my dogma.  roody   Aug-17-08 10:04 PM   #84 
  - I believe in numerous Gods and Godesses  Marrah_G   Aug-16-08 11:32 PM   #31 
  - ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ##  DU GrovelBot   Aug-16-08 11:33 PM   #33 
  - "Man is the only animal to have found the One True GOD...several of them." Mark Twain  Tierra_y_Libertad   Aug-16-08 11:33 PM   #34 
  - However . . . . spirituality -- even universal spirituality --- is another question . . .  defendandprotect   Aug-16-08 11:34 PM   #35 
  - So much controversy. Thank God I'm an atheist!  Poiuyt   Aug-16-08 11:44 PM   #36 
  - I believe in God, but I don't think God has anything to do with religion  TexasObserver   Aug-16-08 11:46 PM   #37 
  - I am agnostic.  ccharles000   Aug-16-08 11:50 PM   #38 
  - We're born, we live, we pay taxes, and we die...it sucks...  cynatnite   Aug-16-08 11:56 PM   #39 
  - It depends on which God(s) we're talking about.  Darth Lenore   Aug-17-08 12:18 AM   #40 
  - Which one?  Chovexani   Aug-17-08 12:27 AM   #42 
  - It Might Be an Intriguing Idea  SoDesuKa   Aug-17-08 12:46 AM   #44 
  - Do you believe in Santa Clause? nt  and-justice-for-all   Aug-17-08 12:54 AM   #45 
  - or Mother Goose nt  Skittles   Aug-17-08 01:08 AM   #49 
  - I don't know whether or not there is a God, and I've never seen a reason given by anyone  last_texas_dem   Aug-17-08 12:54 AM   #46 
  - I believe in a higher power. I do not believe in religion.  Joe Fields   Aug-17-08 12:57 AM   #47 
  - god did not create man- man created god. a god wouldn't need men- but men need a god.  QuestionAll   Aug-17-08 01:09 AM   #50 
  - Which one?  Hekate   Aug-17-08 01:20 AM   #52 
  - Nope  Pastiche423   Aug-17-08 01:44 AM   #53 
  - Do the ants on my lawn believe in George Bush?  brazenlyliberal   Aug-17-08 04:54 AM   #54 
  - no  JI7   Aug-17-08 04:57 AM   #55 
  - There is a something, but a sentient, omniscient being? No.  greyhound1966   Aug-17-08 04:57 AM   #56 
  - Can't answer until "God" is defined.  uppityperson   Aug-17-08 05:21 AM   #58 
  - Yes.  H2O Man   Aug-17-08 05:22 AM   #59 
  - The religious case against belief.  Dover   Aug-17-08 05:27 AM   #60 
  - Belief suggests separation...dualism.  Dover   Aug-17-08 05:42 AM   #61 
  - No.  Bright Eyes   Aug-17-08 06:02 AM   #62 
  - Honestly  LatteLibertine   Aug-17-08 06:07 AM   #64 
  - NO! Though I do believe in mental illness.  asteroid2003QQ47   Aug-17-08 08:32 AM   #65 
  - No.  arundhatiroyfan   Aug-17-08 08:45 AM   #66 
  - Since reading...  GTurck   Aug-17-08 08:46 AM   #67 
  - Yup, I believe in God and Jesus is my savior  workinclasszero   Aug-17-08 09:47 AM   #69 
  - Er...you forgot the sarcasm emoticon.  asteroid2003QQ47   Aug-17-08 05:02 PM   #78 
     - No sarcasm was intended friend  workinclasszero   Aug-18-08 12:01 AM   #94 
        - This no-holds-barred atheist welcomes your aid in the fight for justice.  Zhade   Aug-18-08 12:48 AM   #97 
        - Sadly, yes.  asteroid2003QQ47   Aug-18-08 02:14 AM   #106 
  - Not in any form  Dogtown   Aug-17-08 10:31 AM   #70 
  - I'm sick and tired of humans blaming their foibles on an external source.  pink-o   Aug-17-08 01:48 PM   #72 
  - Interesting results.  Terranist   Aug-17-08 02:19 PM   #73 
  - I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do."  bemildred   Aug-17-08 02:34 PM   #74 
  - I had to use that one to explain my lack of belief to my son.  Zhade   Aug-18-08 01:08 AM   #102 
  - Yes, the creator of the heavens and the Earth.  harun   Aug-17-08 02:37 PM   #75 
  - The whole thing has a grey answer from me  Taverner   Aug-17-08 02:40 PM   #76 
  - I believe in the same god as George Carlin  XOKCowboy   Aug-17-08 03:30 PM   #77 
  - There is no such thing as god to believe in  skyounkin   Aug-17-08 05:12 PM   #79 
  - I'm an unrepentant Atheist  Odin2005   Aug-17-08 09:02 PM   #80 
  - Yes, and in a way that is similar enough to the Judeo-Christian tradition  yardwork   Aug-17-08 09:04 PM   #81 
  - I voted yes  mvd   Aug-17-08 09:50 PM   #82 
  - Hell, no!  roody   Aug-17-08 10:13 PM   #85 
  - Yes I do, but on my terms...  Hobarticus   Aug-17-08 10:17 PM   #86 
  - No god, no devil, no heaven, no hell.  Edweird   Aug-17-08 10:36 PM   #87 
  - No  Solly Mack   Aug-17-08 10:52 PM   #88 
  - Yes, but not anything like theirs.  donco6   Aug-17-08 10:58 PM   #89 
  - No - I'm an atheist, thus I have no religion or belief system.  Zhade   Aug-17-08 11:17 PM   #91 
  - I guess I missed something big  slackmaster   Aug-17-08 11:35 PM   #92 
  - The Shaman tells those that fear Death to listen to him  Ikonoklast   Aug-17-08 11:40 PM   #93 
  - No, I personally don't. But this poll and its results pose some vexing questions  RandomKoolzip   Aug-18-08 12:45 AM   #96 
  - I try to hold the BELIEFS in contempt, not the people who hold them.  Zhade   Aug-18-08 12:50 AM   #98 
  - I have little use for any candidate who seems to actually believe in the supernatural  Kurt_and_Hunter   Aug-18-08 12:51 AM   #99 
  - I don't believe in him, no.  jaredh   Aug-18-08 12:54 AM   #100 
  - Most agnostics are actually atheists...  Kurt_and_Hunter   Aug-18-08 01:08 AM   #101 
  - That makes you an atheist. Atheism is simply the lack of belief in gods.  Zhade   Aug-18-08 01:11 AM   #103 
  - Yes I do.  emilyg   Aug-18-08 01:27 AM   #104 
  - Clapton?  Progs Rock   Aug-18-08 01:34 AM   #105 
  - LOL  FatDave   Aug-18-08 12:09 PM   #108 
  - It's all in the Definition  yellowwood   Aug-18-08 06:24 AM   #107 
  - No.  Bornaginhooligan   Aug-18-08 12:10 PM   #109 
  - I believe in the Great Mystery. n/t  Blue_In_AK   Aug-18-08 12:16 PM   #110 
  - Most important is  Lifetimedem   Aug-18-08 03:04 PM   #112 
  - I'm often told that if I ask or respond to questions like these...  LanternWaste   Aug-18-08 03:11 PM   #113 
 

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