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Fri Mar-09-07 08:30 PM
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| -It is never right to call a mother who is trying to bring her son home from a war an "idiot liberal" |
MN Against Bush |
Mar-09-07 08:29 PM |
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K&R |
DemKR |
Mar-09-07 08:30 PM |
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Agreed. n/t |
OhioChick |
Mar-09-07 08:31 PM |
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yes indeed. Simply put.... |
leftchick |
Mar-09-07 08:34 PM |
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I agree on that point |
sandnsea |
Mar-09-07 08:35 PM |
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Her son is not now in Iraq. She went after the wrong congressman and I don't blame |
karlrschneider |
Mar-09-07 08:38 PM |
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There is no "wrong congressman" to go after... |
MN Against Bush |
Mar-09-07 08:51 PM |
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If Congress cuts off all funding instantly, we STILL have 100,000+ troops |
karlrschneider |
Mar-09-07 09:03 PM |
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Here is exactly what he should do... |
MN Against Bush |
Mar-09-07 09:13 PM |
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Grieving? For what? Sorry I don't get that part. |
karlrschneider |
Mar-09-07 09:39 PM |
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I don't think you would be rolling your eyes if your child was being sent off to die |
MN Against Bush |
Mar-09-07 09:41 PM |
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I'm only interested in truth and facts. IPhony ideaology doesn't cut any mustard with me |
karlrschneider |
Mar-09-07 09:55 PM |
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Oh I get it |
proud2Blib |
Mar-09-07 10:01 PM |
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How gratifying to discover you are actually educable. |
karlrschneider |
Mar-09-07 10:02 PM |
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How dare you call a mother's concern for her son "phony ideology" |
MN Against Bush |
Mar-09-07 10:05 PM |
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I want everyone in public service held to the exact same standards. |
karlrschneider |
Mar-09-07 10:15 PM |
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I never claimed to have a magic wand... |
MN Against Bush |
Mar-09-07 10:19 PM |
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Because she is an idiot liberal. |
karlrschneider |
Mar-09-07 10:26 PM |
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Well I never called her an "idiot liberal" |
MN Against Bush |
Mar-09-07 10:34 PM |
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I think we are done with this conversation. Have a fabulous evening. |
karlrschneider |
Mar-09-07 10:41 PM |
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Cloy leaves for his third tour in 2 weeks. |
proud2Blib |
Mar-09-07 09:05 PM |
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My Brother Is Over There Right Now... |
maggiegault |
Mar-10-07 09:35 AM |
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I will keep your brother in my prayers |
proud2Blib |
Mar-10-07 11:33 AM |
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Yippeeee! That's the stuff I've been saying on the phone and in my letters: |
patrice |
Mar-09-07 10:06 PM |
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Thank you. Definately out of line. He is a Representative, not a King. |
kiteinthewind |
Mar-09-07 08:38 PM |
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I lost respect for him. |
Fridays Child |
Mar-09-07 08:41 PM |
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You got it right. |
Mojambo |
Mar-09-07 08:46 PM |
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It's funny, a little, how DU in general keeps saying "Let's take off the gloves |
karlrschneider |
Mar-09-07 09:05 PM |
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He can get a little testy all he wants on the floor of the House |
proud2Blib |
Mar-09-07 09:12 PM |
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Getting testy and flat out insulting someone are two very different things. |
Mojambo |
Mar-09-07 09:19 PM |
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He was being badgered in an impromptu encounter by a woman with |
karlrschneider |
Mar-09-07 09:34 PM |
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Even if all of what you say is true |
Mojambo |
Mar-09-07 09:49 PM |
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He did - immediately. Geez ! n/t |
DURHAM D |
Mar-09-07 09:56 PM |
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If you knew how to Google, you would have discovered he did. |
karlrschneider |
Mar-09-07 09:56 PM |
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Oh okay. This thread must be about the apologists for his behavior then. |
Mojambo |
Mar-09-07 10:02 PM |
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Yeah I just figure it out too |
proud2Blib |
Mar-09-07 10:06 PM |
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What do you think he SHOULD have said? |
karlrschneider |
Mar-09-07 10:11 PM |
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I don't think expecting him to NOT hurl insults is a particularly tough standard |
Mojambo |
Mar-09-07 10:15 PM |
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If you have ever talked with a rightwinger, you probably know it is unavoidable |
karlrschneider |
Mar-09-07 10:24 PM |
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I have talked to many rightwingers and it isn't unavoidable. |
Mojambo |
Mar-09-07 10:32 PM |
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Yeah, you're right. I should've said "unnecessarily agressive" |
karlrschneider |
Mar-09-07 11:03 PM |
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He might have explained a little better. |
patrice |
Mar-09-07 10:49 PM |
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She was talking to him, not badgering him |
proud2Blib |
Mar-09-07 09:51 PM |
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ROTFLMGDAO |
karlrschneider |
Mar-09-07 09:59 PM |
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She's the type who will get this war ended |
proud2Blib |
Mar-09-07 10:02 PM |
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Yeah, by secretly videotaping someone who already IS trying to end it. |
karlrschneider |
Mar-09-07 10:03 PM |
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Ah-- fearing for a son's life is stupid? Damn. Wow. |
Malikshah |
Mar-09-07 11:18 PM |
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BS. He's doing more than 400 or so other congresscritters to end this crap. |
karlrschneider |
Mar-09-07 11:39 PM |
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It is called Sucking it Up and Dealing. It is not about him--and if |
Malikshah |
Mar-10-07 12:37 AM |
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That's because people think they're more important than the goal |
patrice |
Mar-09-07 10:12 PM |
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Patrice, Tina is good friends with many of us here in KC |
proud2Blib |
Mar-10-07 07:49 AM |
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Thats the Rethug mentality right there I am sorry to say... |
and-justice-for-all |
Mar-09-07 08:54 PM |
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It is not right to call your boss an idiot liberal |
proud2Blib |
Mar-09-07 09:02 PM |
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Technically, he works for Wisconsinites. That's his job according to the Constitution. |
karlrschneider |
Mar-09-07 09:11 PM |
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I am under the impression that he was an asshole to a military mom |
proud2Blib |
Mar-09-07 09:13 PM |
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She could have tried for an appointment instead of badgering him in the hallway |
karlrschneider |
Mar-09-07 09:30 PM |
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And you are sure she has had no appointment with him? You are positive? |
proud2Blib |
Mar-09-07 09:54 PM |
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The dates and times of which you obviously have noted. Right? |
karlrschneider |
Mar-09-07 10:06 PM |
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Yes I do know for a fact she has met with him |
proud2Blib |
Mar-09-07 10:43 PM |
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I see. So she has been haranguing him for some time now. That makes sense. |
karlrschneider |
Mar-09-07 11:13 PM |
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And you are being an ass |
proud2Blib |
Mar-09-07 11:16 PM |
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Not one ten millionth? Oh, dear, I am desiccated with mortification! |
karlrschneider |
Mar-09-07 11:29 PM |
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It's class to call someone an idiot liberal and to accuse them of smoking |
proud2Blib |
Mar-10-07 07:40 AM |
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I posted this on another thread: |
tandot |
Mar-09-07 09:25 PM |
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It is not for you to decide who she should focus on... |
MN Against Bush |
Mar-09-07 09:35 PM |
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How is focusing on Obey best for her son? He is already on her side. |
tandot |
Mar-09-07 09:53 PM |
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SHE HAS TALKED TO PRO-WAR REPUBLICANS |
proud2Blib |
Mar-09-07 09:56 PM |
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And suddenly she decided to harass ANTI-war Democrats? |
karlrschneider |
Mar-09-07 10:00 PM |
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This is about WAR and DEATH and ABUSING our military |
proud2Blib |
Mar-09-07 10:03 PM |
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Oh, dear. If you don't think it's partisan politics you must be posting from |
karlrschneider |
Mar-09-07 10:08 PM |
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Well, it didn't make news. Did she tape it and release it to the press? |
tandot |
Mar-09-07 10:05 PM |
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It sounded to me like she was working off of one talking point, |
patrice |
Mar-09-07 10:23 PM |
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And that's the crux of the matter. A real genuine 'defunding' could actually make it impossible |
karlrschneider |
Mar-09-07 10:30 PM |
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Yes, patrice, she only has one talking point in the FOUR years she has been |
kiteinthewind |
Mar-10-07 11:53 AM |
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Attacking? And what do you call what you just did to me? |
patrice |
Mar-10-07 11:46 PM |
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She did not corner him, she simply asked him a question |
MN Against Bush |
Mar-09-07 09:58 PM |
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Absolutely! |
zidzi |
Mar-09-07 09:04 PM |
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What made him assume she was a liberal? Plenty of moderates and even conservatives |
glitch |
Mar-09-07 09:10 PM |
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Even a 'good' person can be ignorant of certain things. |
Rex |
Mar-09-07 09:16 PM |
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Nicely said! |
No Surrender |
Mar-09-07 09:45 PM |
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There is no reason, whatsoever |
Pastiche423 |
Mar-09-07 09:51 PM |
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Would it be okay for him to call a pro-war constituent a conservative idiot? |
karlrschneider |
Mar-09-07 10:07 PM |
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Nope |
Pastiche423 |
Mar-09-07 10:54 PM |
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Not all DUers would agree with you. I do. |
karlrschneider |
Mar-09-07 11:09 PM |
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Many DUers would have no problem with it if he did that. |
Elrond Hubbard |
Mar-10-07 07:53 AM |
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Transcript please? What someone says they said is NEVER as good as what they said, after all. |
BlooInBloo |
Mar-09-07 09:56 PM |
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Video: |
proud2Blib |
Mar-09-07 09:58 PM |
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Thank you - am drinking now, so it's prolly best for me to let it go til tomorrow :) |
BlooInBloo |
Mar-09-07 10:26 PM |
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Wow. I just watched Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (1939) |
Synnical |
Mar-09-07 11:07 PM |
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This is a transcript zulchzulu posted over in GDP |
KingofNewOrleans |
Mar-09-07 10:08 PM |
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Thanks... |
orwell |
Mar-09-07 10:41 PM |
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"far more knowledgable"???? She didn't appear to know that Obey is trying |
karlrschneider |
Mar-09-07 11:07 PM |
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Hard to get around the camera and her doing the TV circuit |
KingofNewOrleans |
Mar-09-07 11:11 PM |
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That's the probklem I have with all of this. If she's talked to the "pro-war Rs" |
blondeatlast |
Mar-10-07 08:05 AM |
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The question is why was the media not interested in those videos? |
proud2Blib |
Mar-10-07 11:29 AM |
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That's kind of what I was thinking. Funny how the altercation with the |
blondeatlast |
Mar-10-07 01:16 PM |
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she should put them on youtube n/t |
orangepeel68 |
Mar-10-07 03:03 PM |
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She was obviously frustrated and desperate to help her son. |
tandot |
Mar-09-07 10:44 PM |
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He IS confusing and she is incoherent. |
patrice |
Mar-09-07 11:08 PM |
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Incoherent? |
Synnical |
Mar-09-07 11:19 PM |
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Well, not all of us are conversant in gibberish. |
karlrschneider |
Mar-09-07 11:40 PM |
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We disagree. |
patrice |
Mar-09-07 11:47 PM |
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Problem with the transcript |
mockmonkey |
Mar-10-07 12:02 PM |
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Two Frustrated People |
Madspirit |
Mar-09-07 11:20 PM |
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"Two Frustrated People" - good call |
Mabus |
Mar-10-07 12:21 PM |
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Thanks, Mabus. I guess I sort of lost it last night when people started attacking |
kiteinthewind |
Mar-10-07 12:51 PM |
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I heard |
Mabus |
Mar-10-07 01:19 PM |
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Thanks, Mabus. Helpless and Angry. That's just how I feel. Thanks for the kind words. |
kiteinthewind |
Mar-10-07 02:07 PM |
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You aren't alone |
Mabus |
Mar-10-07 02:39 PM |
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K&R n/t |
Jcrowley |
Mar-09-07 11:25 PM |
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As usual everything is about Us vs. Them, instead of what to do about Iraq. |
patrice |
Mar-10-07 12:10 AM |
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In this case, it's about Us vs. Us. nt |
blondeatlast |
Mar-10-07 08:06 AM |
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In most cases by far, it takes two to make a problem. But no one sees it that way. |
patrice |
Mar-10-07 10:50 PM |
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Her son being in Iraq instantly sends rays of smartness to her brain cells. |
LoZoccolo |
Mar-10-07 12:14 AM |
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Yes, let's be honest. Her son is not in Iraq. |
karlrschneider |
Mar-10-07 12:26 AM |
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The mother has "skin in the game". |
Jonathan50 |
Mar-10-07 07:00 AM |
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Well here are the facts |
proud2Blib |
Mar-10-07 11:36 AM |
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I heard he has a good voting record, etc |
BluePatriot |
Mar-10-07 07:45 AM |
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This is quite absurd. |
Elrond Hubbard |
Mar-10-07 07:50 AM |
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You are 100% correct. |
mmonk |
Mar-10-07 08:09 AM |
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Thank you, MN Against Bush. |
babylonsister |
Mar-10-07 08:24 AM |
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Hey thanks for commenting. |
proud2Blib |
Mar-10-07 11:31 AM |
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I think... |
champt10 |
Mar-10-07 11:34 AM |
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You're right. There's NOTHING WE CAN DO. |
PassingFair |
Mar-10-07 02:29 PM |
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kick |
stonebone |
Mar-10-07 11:49 AM |
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It's not surprising. Look what they have done to Cindy Sheehan |
Cleita |
Mar-10-07 01:21 PM |
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Rep. Obey - Support our troops, No escalation: |
mark414 |
Mar-10-07 02:20 PM |
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he spoke harshly (out of understandable frustration) and then apologized for it |
orangepeel68 |
Mar-10-07 02:54 PM |
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It would be a non-incident if he didn't have so many trying to defend him... |
MN Against Bush |
Mar-10-07 03:03 PM |
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Precisely. Attacking the mother is, well, just disappointing. nt |
kiteinthewind |
Mar-10-07 06:55 PM |
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Attacking anyone on our side is disappointing. n/t |
patrice |
Mar-10-07 11:57 PM |
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You've stated this quite clearly and still some want to spend their time attacking |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-07 12:12 AM |
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Everyone feels bad for Tina and her son. I also feel bad for Obey |
patrice |
Mar-11-07 12:30 AM |
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I hate to see Peace activists attacked when they are working to end the war. I hate to see |
kiteinthewind |
Mar-11-07 03:51 PM |
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Not everyone is attacking. Some of us are little behind the curve. |
patrice |
Mar-11-07 09:28 PM |
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