Donald Ian Rankin
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Fri Aug-15-08 06:39 PM
Response to Reply #20 |
| 83. Tibet, Falun Gong, Chechnya, mass executions, free sp... oh, hell, you've heard it all before... |
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The flaws of the Russian and Chinese government are matters of public record.
Look, if you choose to ignore or forgive what Russia and China do because it would mean facing up to the fact that George W. Bush is not the antichrist, nothing I can say or do will change your mind. But I hope that, even if you don't admit it, being reminded that you're willfully denying something you know to be true makes you feel a little guilty.
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| -There is way too much Russophobia on this forum |
JVS |
Aug-15-08 03:42 PM |
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Meh, it's only a handful of trolls. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Aug-15-08 03:45 PM |
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But they want to put flouride in our drinking water and force the New Math on our children! |
mitchum |
Aug-15-08 03:47 PM |
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Oh noes! We better nuke um! |
JVS |
Aug-15-08 04:22 PM |
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Yeah but at least it's not.. |
sendero |
Aug-16-08 07:10 AM |
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Please be kind to us |
Turbineguy |
Aug-15-08 03:47 PM |
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Our brief spell of being "The World's Number One Superpower" is over. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Aug-15-08 03:51 PM |
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Thankfully, that's not even close to being true. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Aug-15-08 04:04 PM |
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Both of their regimes make George Bush look like Mahatma Ghandi? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Aug-15-08 04:07 PM |
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No they are about equally as corrupt |
Jake3463 |
Aug-15-08 04:13 PM |
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You must be mad... |
truebrit71 |
Aug-15-08 04:35 PM |
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BIngo n/t |
malaise |
Aug-15-08 04:51 PM |
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We have the highest imprionment rate in the world, but we are Ghandi? What are you smoking? n/t |
arendt |
Aug-15-08 04:36 PM |
#20 |
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Tibet, Falun Gong, Chechnya, mass executions, free sp... oh, hell, you've heard it all before... |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Aug-15-08 06:39 PM |
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Its all about agenda control. The violator of the law here is Georgia, and the neocons who... |
arendt |
Aug-15-08 07:37 PM |
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No, the violator of the law is Russia, who have invaded sovereign Georgian territory. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Aug-16-08 07:19 AM |
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Sure, |
blindpig |
Aug-16-08 08:40 AM |
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Sure, |
blindpig |
Aug-16-08 08:40 AM |
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Gandhi invaded Iraq? |
daleo |
Aug-15-08 04:44 PM |
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Ghandi didn't occupy Tibet, or Chechnya, or torture the Falun Gong. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Aug-15-08 06:41 PM |
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Immeasurably better than Russian and China's leaders? |
daleo |
Aug-15-08 11:16 PM |
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I'm afraid I think you're suffering from lack of perspective. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Aug-16-08 07:07 AM |
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Relative and absolute are both important measures |
daleo |
Aug-16-08 05:31 PM |
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By that measure, Konrad Adenauer could have eaten babies and still count as a good leader, surely? |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Aug-16-08 05:50 PM |
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ha!ha!ha! |
northernlights |
Aug-15-08 05:08 PM |
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What Good is Power WHen it's Abused, Regardless of who is in power |
fascisthunter |
Aug-15-08 05:15 PM |
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What they said. |
Caliman73 |
Aug-15-08 06:38 PM |
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I would say the reverse - there's far too much Russophilia. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Aug-15-08 04:02 PM |
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As though we've never had any political assassinations! |
JVS |
Aug-15-08 04:23 PM |
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Um... not on the orders of the government, so far as I know... |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Aug-15-08 06:42 PM |
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We don't have russophilia, we have neocon-phobia. Any enemy of the neocons is a friend of mine. n/t |
arendt |
Aug-15-08 04:37 PM |
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So you support Mugabe and the Myanmar junta then? |
rockymountaindem |
Aug-15-08 05:47 PM |
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Some here clearly do |
Ex Lurker |
Aug-15-08 06:46 PM |
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Welcome. Red-baiter. We have now moved on from reality to pure agitprop. |
arendt |
Aug-15-08 07:43 PM |
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thanks for putting words in my mouth |
Ex Lurker |
Aug-15-08 10:03 PM |
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AFAIK, the neocons are happy to do business w Myanamar. You can't even smear w/out making a mistake. |
arendt |
Aug-15-08 07:40 PM |
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Yet they wouldn't let our military in there post-tsunami |
rockymountaindem |
Aug-15-08 07:44 PM |
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They wouldn't let ANYBODY in. does that mean they hate the Russians? Non-sequitur. n/t |
arendt |
Aug-15-08 08:12 PM |
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That you would regard Putin... |
DrCory |
Aug-16-08 07:06 AM |
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You may want to look into why Litvinenko was killed... |
AntiFascist |
Aug-15-08 04:37 PM |
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You seem to be missing an obvious point....the US is now almost impotent militarily... |
truebrit71 |
Aug-15-08 04:39 PM |
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Thank you for that sane response |
chatnoir |
Aug-15-08 04:46 PM |
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nope |
fascisthunter |
Aug-15-08 05:20 PM |
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? |
chatnoir |
Aug-15-08 05:59 PM |
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yup.... your agreement with the absurd post above |
fascisthunter |
Aug-15-08 06:01 PM |
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Was not implying others are "insane", of course. |
chatnoir |
Aug-15-08 06:14 PM |
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Believe Me When I Say This |
fascisthunter |
Aug-15-08 06:23 PM |
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I can't speak to how the MSM is playing it as I don't watch much US news |
chatnoir |
Aug-15-08 07:19 PM |
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History is written |
Caliman73 |
Aug-15-08 06:53 PM |
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Had this happened during an Obama administration, |
Codeine |
Aug-15-08 05:18 PM |
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Show me where? |
fascisthunter |
Aug-15-08 05:20 PM |
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Well said.. |
Mudoria |
Aug-16-08 10:05 AM |
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Thank You For This |
DarthDem |
Aug-15-08 04:04 PM |
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I keep saying it, there are NO good actors in this |
magellan |
Aug-15-08 04:05 PM |
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Putin is a murderous thug but other than that part, I agree with you. |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-15-08 04:05 PM |
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Bush is responsible for more deaths than Putin, by a long shot. |
martymar64 |
Aug-15-08 04:28 PM |
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Oh, I agree. Our thug is the bigger thug. And, I wasn't being sarcastic |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-15-08 04:40 PM |
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No argument there. |
martymar64 |
Aug-15-08 05:11 PM |
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Pffft. They hate us for our freedoms. |
gatorboy |
Aug-15-08 04:06 PM |
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Sorry I disagree |
Jake3463 |
Aug-15-08 04:12 PM |
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But you're OK with Georgia ethnically cleansing South Ossetia? |
martymar64 |
Aug-15-08 04:30 PM |
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Just as I wasn't ok with Sadam ethnically clensing the Kurds |
Jake3463 |
Aug-15-08 05:35 PM |
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Which justifies cluster bombs on civilians how exactly |
LittleClarkie |
Aug-15-08 06:45 PM |
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Really? How many millions has Putin killed and displaced? |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-15-08 04:53 PM |
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100,000 as of today as far as being displaced |
Jake3463 |
Aug-15-08 05:36 PM |
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That's horrible and we don't have an inch of high ground to stand on. |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-15-08 05:37 PM |
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No George W. Bush and the Neo-cons don't have an inch to stand on |
Jake3463 |
Aug-15-08 05:43 PM |
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Ask the Chechens n/t |
rockymountaindem |
Aug-15-08 05:48 PM |
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Shhh |
Jake3463 |
Aug-15-08 05:50 PM |
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The Chechens? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Aug-15-08 06:47 PM |
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Uh huh, them |
rockymountaindem |
Aug-15-08 07:10 PM |
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Of course, invading another country is the way to solve the problem... |
cynatnite |
Aug-15-08 04:14 PM |
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Two words: |
yibbehobba |
Aug-15-08 04:14 PM |
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I dumayu chto bui skazhite pravilno. nt |
JenniferZ |
Aug-15-08 04:39 PM |
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I don't get it... |
stillcool47 |
Aug-15-08 04:43 PM |
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And, man, is Russo going to be mad about it, too! |
damntexdem |
Aug-15-08 04:58 PM |
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## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
DU GrovelBot |
Aug-15-08 04:58 PM |
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You are lying!!! |
lwfern |
Aug-15-08 04:59 PM |
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You guys need to get over your Russophilia. |
Arrowhead2k1 |
Aug-15-08 05:01 PM |
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"Russia's way is ten times worse and more brutal." |
Bornaginhooligan |
Aug-15-08 05:04 PM |
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Oh give me a break. |
Arrowhead2k1 |
Aug-15-08 05:09 PM |
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How many Georgians did Russia intentionally kill? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Aug-15-08 05:21 PM |
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My problems with Russia are bigger than the petty conflict in Georgia. |
Arrowhead2k1 |
Aug-15-08 05:41 PM |
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Oh, I know. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Aug-15-08 05:45 PM |
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What is a dreadful product of Bush's neocon policy is just another day under the Russian tyranny... |
Arrowhead2k1 |
Aug-15-08 05:56 PM |
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... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Aug-15-08 05:57 PM |
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So why do you defend Russian brutality? |
Arrowhead2k1 |
Aug-15-08 06:00 PM |
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Where did I defend Russian brutality? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Aug-15-08 06:01 PM |
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I've condemned Bush's policies. You're doing nothing but answering my concerns to Russia's brutality |
Arrowhead2k1 |
Aug-15-08 06:05 PM |
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Actually, you were just defending them. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Aug-15-08 06:07 PM |
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That's not a defense. It's the goddamn truth. |
Arrowhead2k1 |
Aug-15-08 06:10 PM |
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That's a dipshit, neocon defense of the invasion of Iraq. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Aug-15-08 06:11 PM |
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Again, proof? |
Arrowhead2k1 |
Aug-15-08 06:16 PM |
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Proof for your claim? You're the one who made it. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Aug-15-08 06:18 PM |
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They're not directly due to his policies, they're indirectly due to them, |
Arrowhead2k1 |
Aug-15-08 06:21 PM |
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The casualities in Iraq are not directly due to Bush's policy of invading Iraq? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Aug-15-08 06:24 PM |
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I'm afraid not. They're INDIRECTLY due to them. |
Arrowhead2k1 |
Aug-15-08 06:27 PM |
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didn't you know.... it's the Iraqi's Fault |
fascisthunter |
Aug-15-08 06:33 PM |
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You think blaming the murderers for committing murder is silly? |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Aug-15-08 06:49 PM |
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Oh, Lord. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Aug-15-08 06:52 PM |
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After Crap Like That... I just place them on ignore |
fascisthunter |
Aug-15-08 07:03 PM |
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oh...puhleeese. But Seriously, nice try... really, I wouldn't lie to you |
fascisthunter |
Aug-15-08 06:59 PM |
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To readers: please note that no attempt at response or rebuttal has been made. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Aug-15-08 07:09 PM |
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"Chechens" is probably a better nationality than "Georgians" in that question. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Aug-15-08 06:44 PM |
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lol.... show us where you see this....? Be Specific... |
fascisthunter |
Aug-15-08 05:51 PM |
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I don't see how maintaining breakaway "provinces" |
igil |
Aug-15-08 05:13 PM |
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That made WAY too much sense, sir. |
Codeine |
Aug-15-08 05:20 PM |
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Excellent post |
rockymountaindem |
Aug-15-08 05:51 PM |
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You are interrupting the daily two minutes of hate. |
bemildred |
Aug-15-08 05:45 PM |
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It's not Russophobia to believe that Putin is not acting in good faith |
wienerdoggie |
Aug-15-08 05:51 PM |
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I kind of like her. |
Evoman |
Aug-15-08 05:52 PM |
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Gee JVS... I Had no Idea You Loved Russia... according to Some Posting Here |
fascisthunter |
Aug-15-08 05:56 PM |
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The New Oil-Rich Russia. |
Xap |
Aug-15-08 05:56 PM |
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Well said. |
go west young man |
Aug-15-08 09:13 PM |
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Maybe just too much reactionism, posting without research. |
L. Coyote |
Aug-15-08 06:30 PM |
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ahhh... shit, man.... |
fascisthunter |
Aug-15-08 06:34 PM |
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Yes and may I add, FAR too many smart assed one liner posters these days. |
BeHereNow |
Aug-15-08 06:44 PM |
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Well, in spite of your post, I shall remain decidedly skeptical |
JerseygirlCT |
Aug-15-08 07:14 PM |
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Sarcasm? |
MellowDem |
Aug-15-08 07:45 PM |
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Well said. nt |
Arrowhead2k1 |
Aug-15-08 08:11 PM |
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Everything you've posted is speculation on your part. |
go west young man |
Aug-15-08 09:49 PM |
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Oh, I know |
MellowDem |
Aug-16-08 08:02 AM |
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Your response is nonsensical. |
go west young man |
Aug-16-08 08:40 AM |
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Sorry for the confusion, I should have been clearer |
MellowDem |
Aug-16-08 09:12 AM |
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See your post is a perfect illustration of Russophobia |
JVS |
Aug-16-08 02:44 AM |
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I don't have Russo-phobia |
MellowDem |
Aug-16-08 08:16 AM |
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Russian behavior and policies... |
DrCory |
Aug-16-08 05:48 AM |
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Does this mean we have to take care of central and south America? |
DireStrike |
Aug-16-08 08:41 AM |
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Vladimir Putin would blow up my house, eat my children AND shoot me in the face... |
Orsino |
Aug-16-08 09:58 AM |
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