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Fri Aug-15-08 02:07 PM
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| 2. in reality the cold war never ended |
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it morphed into what we are facing today...two tightly controlled capitalist societies trying to control the supply of oil and natural gas. it`s the same cast of actors with a different play
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| -Welcome back to the cold war: Russia threatens Poland with nukes. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Aug-15-08 01:56 PM |
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Oh yay, I was SO missing Cold War I |
magellan |
Aug-15-08 02:01 PM |
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in reality the cold war never ended |
madrchsod |
Aug-15-08 02:07 PM |
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GHWB in 1989 on the fall of the Berlin Wall |
JDPriestly |
Aug-15-08 02:18 PM |
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Defense Contractors cheer in unfettered approval; Condi can build back that wall. |
Supersedeas |
Aug-15-08 03:01 PM |
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After the Poles pasted a target symbol within spitting distance of Moscow... |
arendt |
Aug-15-08 02:20 PM |
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the last throes of the Bush Administration.. |
stillcool47 |
Aug-15-08 02:40 PM |
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I disagree. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Aug-15-08 03:45 PM |
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Evidence? We are the ones provoking. Arming Georgia. Pushing NATO up to their border. n/t |
arendt |
Aug-15-08 04:11 PM |
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Georgia is a sovereign state. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Aug-15-08 04:13 PM |
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The Russians objected because the Georgians had announced their intention to take back S. Ossetia... |
arendt |
Aug-15-08 04:31 PM |
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Actually, nobody recognized Ossetia's independence. |
Codeine |
Aug-15-08 05:49 PM |
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After the Nov, 2006 South Ossetia Independence Referendum... |
sourmilk |
Aug-15-08 06:48 PM |
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Wish everyone would read your post. People need |
Little Star |
Aug-15-08 06:16 PM |
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Take back? It's always been theirs. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Aug-15-08 06:34 PM |
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Assert. Assert. It doesn't make it so. The breakup of the FSU was anything but clean. |
arendt |
Aug-15-08 07:33 PM |
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I guess you just don't pay much attention - I've been posting since 2004 and I've made 4700 posts. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Aug-16-08 07:46 AM |
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You managed to assert a strawman right after you said that you don't need to justify your assertions |
arendt |
Aug-16-08 08:52 AM |
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Of course, I can see that not being an American weakens my credibility... |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Aug-16-08 09:08 AM |
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Classic. Skip the main charge and make some tangential snide remark. Transparent pettifogery. n/t |
arendt |
Aug-16-08 10:26 AM |
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The "main charge" being what? |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Aug-16-08 11:54 AM |
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The main charge is that you assert constantly, even when you assert you aren't asserting. |
arendt |
Aug-16-08 02:31 PM |
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The difference between Kosovo and South Ossettia is attempted genocide. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Aug-16-08 03:46 PM |
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The *difference* you *assert* is yet another lie. Here is one rebuttal. I can quote others.... |
arendt |
Aug-16-08 07:49 PM |
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Haaretz: Head of World Congress of Russian Jewry accuses Georgia of genocide |
arendt |
Aug-16-08 09:52 PM |
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Human rights watch disagreed, last time I checked. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Aug-17-08 05:24 AM |
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No, Georgia just wants to kill every Ossetian in its borders |
martymar64 |
Aug-15-08 04:39 PM |
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I go with Rankin. |
igil |
Aug-15-08 04:46 PM |
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I agree w all your facts, and draw the opposite conclusion... |
arendt |
Aug-15-08 04:58 PM |
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Yeah, Russia have no choice! |
MellowDem |
Aug-15-08 08:19 PM |
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How juvenile. Are you in the third grade yet? Welcome to DU. Now get a diaper. n/t |
arendt |
Aug-15-08 09:00 PM |
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Wait, I can't post sarcastic juvenile posts? |
MellowDem |
Aug-16-08 08:00 AM |
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These days, the sarcasm tag is very important. Such BS is asserted. Sorry, I didn't get the sarcasm. |
arendt |
Aug-16-08 09:05 AM |
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What was it I was saying on another thread about the quality of posts lately? |
BeHereNow |
Aug-16-08 10:07 PM |
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Conrad Black's Pravda - this story is appearing in numerous RW rags. |
Swamp Rat |
Aug-15-08 02:48 PM |
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Are you saying this is disinfo? I'm not clear. n/t |
arendt |
Aug-15-08 02:55 PM |
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No. I have no idea what it is. |
Swamp Rat |
Aug-15-08 03:05 PM |
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I see. Thanks. n/t |
arendt |
Aug-15-08 03:06 PM |
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No, while right-wing, the Telegraph is a reputable publication. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Aug-15-08 03:44 PM |
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"Cuban Missile Crisis" |
Hubert Flottz |
Aug-15-08 03:50 PM |
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ding. ding. ding. we have a winner. Excellent analogy. n/t |
arendt |
Aug-15-08 04:33 PM |
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These are not offensive missiles |
rockymountaindem |
Aug-15-08 07:28 PM |
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1) no ABM system works. 2) Iran has no credible threat. This is just theatre, provocation.. n/t |
arendt |
Aug-15-08 09:02 PM |
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I agree that it's theatre |
rockymountaindem |
Aug-15-08 10:07 PM |
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In the interests of Poland provoking Russia through theatre, I would recommend |
pampango |
Aug-16-08 09:21 AM |
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He didn't exactly threaten Poland |
daleo |
Aug-15-08 05:32 PM |
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Condi must be creaming her shorts |
Generator |
Aug-15-08 07:59 PM |
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The Bad Idea Bear |
AnnieBW |
Aug-15-08 09:03 PM |
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## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
DU GrovelBot |
Aug-15-08 09:03 PM |
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Yea, well send a thank you note to George!!!! HE was the one who |
napi21 |
Aug-15-08 09:04 PM |
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Nukes, or a missile defence system? Are you sure you've got this right? |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Aug-16-08 07:50 AM |
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The fact that a senior Russian general is allowed to say such reckless comments |
Arrowhead2k1 |
Aug-15-08 10:19 PM |
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Pot meet kettle: General Boykin calls Moslems "satan"... |
arendt |
Aug-16-08 09:03 AM |
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This is election year posturing and fear-mongering. bush wanted the |
alfredo |
Aug-16-08 02:46 PM |
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And ironically, Bush's daddy was ex CIA maybe this was the soul Bush saw in Putin's eyes. n/t |
Uncle Joe |
Aug-16-08 08:17 PM |
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