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Target Has 79-Year-Old Taken In For Mental Evaluation After She Demanded Cash Refund
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Christina Brown said she wanted her $30 back. The cops said she must be crazy.

That's how a 79-year-old New Hope woman ended up having her head examined when she asked the SuperTarget in Plymouth to refund the $30 she had paid for shirts that did not fit. When store workers offered her a gift certificate in return for the shirts, but would not give her cash, Christina Brown stood for her rights.

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When the manager said he was going to call the cops, Christina beat him to the punch: Taking a cellphone from her purse, she dialed 9-1-1 and called police, asking them to come and help her. Officers responded and later filled out a report, but no charges were filed.

The police report also says she asked to be arrested, but she denies that, saying, "I'd have to be crazy to ask for that."

"They can put you in jail for this," she says a cop told her. "Well, I've got nothing else to do today," she replied. "Besides, I may meet a better class of people in jail."

The store wouldn't budge. Christina wouldn't bend. A stretcher was brought in.

Christina was strapped to it, and taken by ambulance to North Memorial Medical Center. Her physical and mental health was supposed to be evaluated.
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http://www.startribune.com/local/26936624.html?page=2&c...

I have read this story twice, and I am still at a loss as to why she was taken for a mental evaluation. Either there is something missing in the story
or someone at Target is batshit crazy. They should have been taken in. I worked retail for a loooooooooooong time, and there were plenty of customers
that I wanted hauled off for a checkup. I can't imagine what she would have done to deserve this. I really want to know what it was, if anything.

I do know that if I had a customer treated like this, my corporate office probably would have sent me to join her. The cops had to have made that call???
Or do they now let store managers determine levels of sanity. Unless she was a clear danger to herself, I would had to have had permission from the CEO
of my company and God to have her taken for a mental evaluation.

:shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:


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  -Target Has 79-Year-Old Taken In For Mental Evaluation After She Demanded Cash Refund tannybogus  Aug-14-08 10:22 AM   #0 
  - Seems plausible to me.  Skink   Aug-14-08 10:30 AM   #1 
  - No receipt. No refund. Simple. Did she have a receipt?  fed_up_mother   Aug-14-08 12:53 PM   #61 
  - She had her receipt according to the newspaper column.nt  tannybogus   Aug-14-08 01:01 PM   #68 
  - Interesting. As long the the tags are still on the items purchased  fed_up_mother   Aug-14-08 01:03 PM   #69 
  - Nice assumption.  bobbolink   Aug-14-08 02:42 PM   #98 
  - I asked "Did she have a receipt?"  fed_up_mother   Aug-14-08 03:13 PM   #106 
     - After the fact.  bobbolink   Aug-14-08 07:47 PM   #144 
        - IT was IN THE SUBJECT LINE!  fed_up_mother   Aug-14-08 07:52 PM   #146 
           - Yes, geeesh.  bobbolink   Aug-14-08 07:55 PM   #147 
  - Yes  romulusnr   Aug-15-08 05:38 PM   #192 
  - if that had happened to my dad who was her age, they would still  roguevalley   Aug-14-08 06:49 PM   #142 
  - There has to be more to this story.  Liberal Gramma   Aug-14-08 10:30 AM   #2 
  - Got me!  tannybogus   Aug-14-08 10:32 AM   #5 
  - What's Probably Missing  ribofunk   Aug-14-08 11:15 AM   #28 
  - Here is a reply from Target.  tannybogus   Aug-14-08 11:23 AM   #33 
  - "We're so concerned, we want her rights taken from her."  bobbolink   Aug-14-08 02:44 PM   #99 
  - It's not entirely contradictory, when POV is understood.  SimpleTrend   Aug-14-08 04:09 PM   #126 
  - No, she may merely have been an inconvenience  TrogL   Aug-14-08 01:25 PM   #89 
     - It's Always Difficult to Know What Went On  ribofunk   Aug-14-08 01:48 PM   #95 
     - Just wondering...  pipi_k   Aug-14-08 02:23 PM   #96 
  - Boycotting Target now too.  Truth4Justice   Aug-15-08 05:23 AM   #162 
  - I worked retail management for a long time and agree with you  LostinVA   Aug-14-08 10:30 AM   #3 
  - Here is another link and more about the story.  tannybogus   Aug-14-08 10:44 AM   #10 
     - And who gets to pay for that ride?  bobbolink   Aug-14-08 02:45 PM   #100 
  - The cops were the ones who had her taken in--Target obviously  wienerdoggie   Aug-14-08 10:32 AM   #4 
  - In many jurisdictions  Dogtown   Aug-14-08 10:44 AM   #11 
  - Right. People are focused on "why didn't they just give her a refund", and they're  wienerdoggie   Aug-14-08 10:56 AM   #20 
     - Oooooooooooooookaaaaaaaaay?  tannybogus   Aug-14-08 11:08 AM   #25 
     - Your bizarre condescension to me aside, you weren't there, you don't  wienerdoggie   Aug-14-08 11:16 AM   #29 
        - I agree with you.  tannybogus   Aug-14-08 11:27 AM   #35 
           - S'okay.  wienerdoggie   Aug-14-08 11:32 AM   #36 
     - she got lucky!  Growler   Aug-14-08 12:43 PM   #54 
  - She wasn't behaving in a "unusual manner". SHE WANTED  JeanGrey   Aug-14-08 11:56 AM   #41 
  - I've been refused a refund before, due to store policy. I didn't  wienerdoggie   Aug-14-08 12:05 PM   #44 
  - Fuck store policy  classicfilmfan   Aug-14-08 08:27 PM   #151 
  - The time I accepted store credit it turned out to have an expiration date...  Hekate   Aug-15-08 03:52 AM   #161 
  - Why? I made a scene at Target and glad I did.  JeanGrey   Aug-15-08 12:42 PM   #184 
  - Actually, you have no idea  Codeine   Aug-14-08 12:48 PM   #56 
  - Oh really? And we know how much judgment the police  JeanGrey   Aug-15-08 06:25 PM   #193 
  - When you are not doing what corporate earth wants you should be arrested  avaistheone1   Aug-14-08 05:19 PM   #139 
  - She's lucky the police didn't taz her.  Growler   Aug-14-08 12:42 PM   #53 
  - "Don't taz me, sonny!"  file83   Aug-15-08 01:47 AM   #156 
  - Except there was nothing unusual in her manner.  madeline_con   Aug-14-08 11:54 PM   #154 
  - Ok after reading the article I see where the problem is, she wrote a check.  MiltonF   Aug-14-08 10:39 AM   #6 
  - Don't assume it was a check...  sunnystarr   Aug-14-08 10:47 AM   #13 
  - I am not assuming, the article states it was a check.  MiltonF   Aug-14-08 10:55 AM   #18 
  - They tried to do this to my son one time, when he paid in cash.  Th1onein   Aug-14-08 11:09 AM   #27 
  - Nonsense - if she had a receipt they needed to give her  JeanGrey   Aug-14-08 11:57 AM   #42 
     - It's not nonsense, the store has no idea if the check cleared.  MiltonF   Aug-14-08 12:32 PM   #50 
     - Exactly.  tammywammy   Aug-14-08 12:50 PM   #59 
     - They can find out if they want. This is bs.  JeanGrey   Aug-15-08 12:41 PM   #182 
        - There is a transition period  Codeine   Aug-15-08 07:36 PM   #194 
     - Stores aren't obligated to do that.  Codeine   Aug-14-08 12:50 PM   #57 
     - And they won't last long.  JeanGrey   Aug-15-08 12:41 PM   #183 
     - If she paid in a check, Target has to know that the check cleared  theboss   Aug-14-08 01:24 PM   #87 
  - story seems to display a backwards attitude toward mental health  Enrique   Aug-14-08 10:41 AM   #7 
  - Actually Target didn't have her taken in for mental eval, the police did  book_worm   Aug-14-08 10:41 AM   #8 
  - they probably wanted to arrest her ass  mikelgb   Aug-14-08 10:42 AM   #9 
  - Uh...yeah. Target doesn't decide that. The police did. Where does it say Target had anything  GreenJ   Aug-14-08 11:04 AM   #21 
     - Here's another version in this link.  tannybogus   Aug-14-08 11:17 AM   #30 
     - It SAID the store employees "were worried for her health".  JeanGrey   Aug-14-08 11:58 AM   #43 
        - Like how the USSR locked up dissidents by claiming they were schizophrenic.  Odin2005   Aug-14-08 02:58 PM   #102 
           - We're comparing Target to Stalinists now?  Codeine   Aug-15-08 07:37 PM   #195 
  - She stood up to a corporation. Of course she's crazy.  undeterred   Aug-14-08 10:46 AM   #12 
  - That reminds me of a Simpsons  ellie   Aug-14-08 10:48 AM   #14 
  - Yet another case where standing up for yourself=creating a disturbance  HereSince1628   Aug-14-08 10:49 AM   #15 
  - Bill  DustyJoe   Aug-14-08 12:50 PM   #58 
  - oh good  Kire   Aug-14-08 10:50 AM   #16 
  - How did they detain her with tasering her?  NYC Liberal   Aug-14-08 10:50 AM   #17 
  - to forcibly take someone for an evaluation, they must be a physical threat to themselves or others  unblock   Aug-14-08 10:55 AM   #19 
  - You're right  Mabus   Aug-14-08 11:32 AM   #37 
  - When I saw this post it reminded me of of a search I did once  nykym   Aug-14-08 11:05 AM   #22 
  - Huh. Be grateful they didn't taze her.  crikkett   Aug-14-08 11:06 AM   #23 
  - It does feel as if something is missing from the article.  SheilaT   Aug-14-08 11:06 AM   #24 
  - Misleading title.  progressoid   Aug-14-08 11:09 AM   #26 
  - I hope she gts a good lawyer.  BrklynLiberal   Aug-14-08 11:21 AM   #31 
  - It's fairly obvious what the problem was  nichomachus   Aug-14-08 11:22 AM   #32 
  - Did you read the article, or just the misleading title?  Dreamer Tatum   Aug-14-08 11:53 AM   #39 
  - Refund policies are posted at the point of sale at almost all retail stores.  MilesColtrane   Aug-14-08 12:13 PM   #45 
     - Target return policy  nichomachus   Aug-14-08 01:13 PM   #74 
        - And there's this part  tammywammy   Aug-14-08 01:19 PM   #81 
           - I will check myself into a mental hospital immediately  nichomachus   Aug-14-08 03:33 PM   #108 
           - I'll need an extra large straight jacket, and 100% cotton, please.  Swamp Rat   Aug-14-08 03:43 PM   #113 
           - Ahh, yes it's so difficult to look at the receipt  tammywammy   Aug-14-08 03:49 PM   #117 
              - People lie and people steal ALL THE TIME  LostinVA   Aug-14-08 03:53 PM   #119 
                 - Yep  tammywammy   Aug-14-08 04:54 PM   #135 
           - I think that's bullshit because Target gets the cash.  madeline_con   Aug-14-08 11:59 PM   #155 
  - Something is wrong with this story. Sometimes it's not what you say, it's how you say it.  hedgehog   Aug-14-08 11:26 AM   #34 
  - When generations clash..  SoCalDem   Aug-14-08 11:32 AM   #38 
  - Exactly...good explanation. nt  bobbiejo   Aug-14-08 12:44 PM   #55 
  - That's what it sounds like to me.  BlooInBloo   Aug-15-08 03:08 AM   #159 
  - That seems very logical  IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge   Aug-15-08 07:31 AM   #165 
  - Target is batshit crazy. I cannot stand them and wouldn't  JeanGrey   Aug-14-08 11:54 AM   #40 
  - Target has an awful return policy...  TwoSparkles   Aug-14-08 12:29 PM   #48 
     - Try returning a gift even with a receipt. If someone bought you  JeanGrey   Aug-15-08 10:00 PM   #196 
  - I have called the police twice when working retail.  tannybogus   Aug-14-08 12:15 PM   #46 
  - I've held the phone up and turned it on in front of a customer  tammywammy   Aug-14-08 12:30 PM   #49 
     - I was working in a sporting goods store one time.  tannybogus   Aug-14-08 12:38 PM   #52 
  - I'm a bit sympathetic to Target here  ButterflyBlood   Aug-14-08 12:26 PM   #47 
  - B.S. If this old lady did someting wrong  avaistheone1   Aug-14-08 12:38 PM   #51 
     - There's no evidence that the employees were abusive towards her,  MilesColtrane   Aug-14-08 12:52 PM   #60 
     - She called the cops because the manager threatened he would call the cops.  avaistheone1   Aug-14-08 03:04 PM   #103 
        - I suspect you've never worked retail.  MilesColtrane   Aug-14-08 03:13 PM   #105 
           - Your assumption is wrong.  avaistheone1   Aug-14-08 05:16 PM   #138 
              - How long ago was that?  tammywammy   Aug-14-08 06:33 PM   #141 
                 - I also think it must have been in Stepford, too  LostinVA   Aug-15-08 07:37 AM   #167 
     - I can see YOU'VE never worked retail  LostinVA   Aug-14-08 03:36 PM   #109 
  - Wait a minute - she called 911 because of an argument with a store manager?  Withywindle   Aug-14-08 12:54 PM   #62 
  - That was my first thought when I read the story  Patiod   Aug-15-08 09:38 AM   #177 
  - the problem is- he had/has testicles  QuestionAll   Aug-15-08 12:56 PM   #185 
  - Why didn't they just give her back her fucking money?  Fox Mulder   Aug-14-08 12:57 PM   #63 
  - The sweet sweet profits. That's why.  JVS   Aug-14-08 01:20 PM   #82 
     - Exactly.  Fox Mulder   Aug-14-08 01:39 PM   #93 
  - This whole headline is bogus  tammywammy   Aug-14-08 12:58 PM   #64 
  - The manager threatened to call the cops.  tannybogus   Aug-14-08 01:06 PM   #70 
     - I've threatened to call the cops on unruly customers before  tammywammy   Aug-14-08 01:10 PM   #73 
     - I know.  tannybogus   Aug-14-08 01:16 PM   #77 
     - I've called the cops on people before too. The cops came and removed them.  JVS   Aug-14-08 01:22 PM   #84 
     - True. The Target manager threatened her by first saying he would call the cops.  avaistheone1   Aug-14-08 01:32 PM   #92 
        - I've called the cops on peopel who refused to leave, too  LostinVA   Aug-15-08 07:38 AM   #168 
  - Probably because of her age they could get away with getting her mentally  Cleita   Aug-14-08 12:58 PM   #65 
  - But Target didn't send her in for a psych evaluation  tammywammy   Aug-14-08 01:00 PM   #66 
     - Yes, but the police were making an assumption because of her age. n/t  Cleita   Aug-14-08 01:06 PM   #71 
        - Did you read the article?  tammywammy   Aug-14-08 01:08 PM   #72 
           - Well, I don't know why you want to argue about this.  Cleita   Aug-14-08 01:13 PM   #75 
              - I'm not arguing  tammywammy   Aug-14-08 01:18 PM   #78 
                 - It is? I've written a check and got a refund.  Cleita   Aug-14-08 01:24 PM   #86 
  - Did the store manager suffer the same fate?  baldguy   Aug-14-08 01:01 PM   #67 
  - Why should he?  ButterflyBlood   Aug-14-08 01:16 PM   #76 
     - No  tannybogus   Aug-14-08 01:19 PM   #79 
     - I dunno. A Customer Service professional not being able to handle a Customer Service issue?  baldguy   Aug-14-08 01:25 PM   #88 
        - It's not a crime in itself  ButterflyBlood   Aug-14-08 11:19 PM   #152 
           - "One mild oath" is not the same as "antisocial screaming".  baldguy   Aug-15-08 07:24 AM   #164 
              - Making a scene in a store IS a crime, especially when you refuse to leave  LostinVA   Aug-15-08 08:43 AM   #174 
              - If you came to my house & I stole your money *I'D* be arrested for theft.  baldguy   Aug-15-08 08:59 AM   #175 
              - You don't waive story policy for someone throwing a fit  ButterflyBlood   Aug-15-08 10:05 AM   #179 
                 - "Store policy" isn't the Word Of God.  baldguy   Aug-15-08 01:20 PM   #186 
  - STORE CREDIT ONLY! DO NOT MAKE ME TAZE YOU!!!  JVS   Aug-14-08 01:19 PM   #80 
  - So...she was trespassing  theboss   Aug-14-08 01:21 PM   #83 
  - She does apparently  tammywammy   Aug-14-08 01:23 PM   #85 
     - This is that woman who called 911 over Burger King refusing to give her the correct sandwich  theboss   Aug-14-08 01:26 PM   #90 
        - What about the cop that arrested a Burger King cook for "poisoning" his burger with salt?  Wizard777   Aug-14-08 03:09 PM   #104 
  - Delete  tannybogus   Aug-14-08 01:28 PM   #91 
  - That's weird  Zenzic   Aug-14-08 01:46 PM   #94 
  - First of all  otherlander   Aug-14-08 02:39 PM   #97 
  - Are you kidding?  TwixVoy   Aug-14-08 02:54 PM   #101 
     - She *pre-empted* the store calling the police  kineta   Aug-14-08 03:39 PM   #111 
     - Which is unstable  TwixVoy   Aug-14-08 03:42 PM   #112 
        - And the article says the woman had proof the check cleared.  kineta   Aug-14-08 03:46 PM   #115 
           - Right a bank statement  TwixVoy   Aug-14-08 03:51 PM   #118 
              - And if indeed it was the check to Target  kineta   Aug-14-08 04:03 PM   #123 
              - HOW would the clerk look it up  TwixVoy   Aug-14-08 04:06 PM   #125 
                 - Tell me how they would EVER know a check cleared then?  kineta   Aug-14-08 04:10 PM   #128 
                    - I have worked at target before  TwixVoy   Aug-14-08 04:15 PM   #130 
                       - Okay, fair enough  kineta   Aug-14-08 04:25 PM   #134 
              - Target has a system that withdraws funds quickly - her $30 was gone the next day  tannybogus   Aug-15-08 07:32 AM   #166 
     - As has been mentioned multiple times on the thread..  Fumesucker   Aug-14-08 03:54 PM   #120 
        - The manager had the right  tammywammy   Aug-14-08 04:56 PM   #136 
        - As has been mentioned multiple times now..  Fumesucker   Aug-14-08 07:04 PM   #143 
           - Nothing wrong to get a psych evaluation  tammywammy   Aug-14-08 07:56 PM   # 
        - Calling the cops and calling 911 or two different things.  MiltonF   Aug-14-08 05:01 PM   #137 
  - Sent them an email  kineta   Aug-14-08 03:32 PM   #107 
  - Oh for the love of god  TwixVoy   Aug-14-08 03:38 PM   #110 
     - And the police aren't the private army of corporations.  kineta   Aug-14-08 03:43 PM   #114 
     - Again  TwixVoy   Aug-14-08 03:47 PM   #116 
        - My actual point is that the trend of stores calling police because a customer is upset  kineta   Aug-14-08 03:55 PM   #121 
           - With people shooting other people  TwixVoy   Aug-14-08 04:01 PM   #122 
     - But you didn't answer my question...  Fumesucker   Aug-14-08 04:04 PM   #124 
        - I have not seen proof  TwixVoy   Aug-14-08 04:09 PM   #127 
           - You haven't seen 'proof' of a lot of other things you're jumping to conclusions about  kineta   Aug-14-08 04:13 PM   #129 
           - Yes I have  TwixVoy   Aug-14-08 04:17 PM   #131 
              - I meant you jumped to the conclusion that the store manager wasn't *really* going to call the police  kineta   Aug-14-08 04:22 PM   #132 
           - Check this link!  tannybogus   Aug-14-08 04:24 PM   #133 
  - I guess you would have to be mentally unstable to demand  DearAbby   Aug-14-08 05:22 PM   #140 
  - She was probably asked to leave the store. She refused and  Miss Chybil   Aug-14-08 07:48 PM   #145 
  - Not rash, if her intention was to make a point.  djohnson   Aug-14-08 08:05 PM   #150 
     - 911 is for emergencies. I was being polite by saying it was "rash."  Miss Chybil   Aug-14-08 11:48 PM   #153 
     - 911 doesn't not exist so you can "make a point"  ButterflyBlood   Aug-15-08 10:02 AM   #178 
  - Target has a horrible return policy  djohnson   Aug-14-08 07:56 PM   #148 
  - Christ, that's what passes as totalitarianism now?  IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge   Aug-15-08 07:39 AM   #169 
  - As others said, she probably refused to leave.  Xithras   Aug-14-08 08:00 PM   #149 
  - Great headline to cause shit  Egnever   Aug-15-08 02:01 AM   #157 
  - Isn't that the kind of treatment reserved for breastfeeding at Olive Gardens?  entanglement   Aug-15-08 03:04 AM   #158 
  - Only if you get the fried chicken.  BlooInBloo   Aug-15-08 03:09 AM   #160 
  - uh oh  LostinVA   Aug-15-08 07:46 AM   #171 
  - Arrest! Institutionalize! Stubborn children, cranky old people? Call the POLICE!  kenzee13   Aug-15-08 06:10 AM   #163 
  - Just a general statement: being old doesn't mean you can act how you want  LostinVA   Aug-15-08 07:44 AM   #170 
  - Why did Target employees say that the lady did nothing wrong?  Fumesucker   Aug-15-08 08:23 AM   #172 
     - They DIDN'T say that, as has been pointed out to you already  LostinVA   Aug-15-08 08:40 AM   #173 
        - This is what a Target spokesperson said:  tannybogus   Aug-15-08 09:21 AM   #176 
           - Yup, I saw that, but she was doing enough to get trespassed  LostinVA   Aug-15-08 12:19 PM   #180 
              - Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...  tannybogus   Aug-15-08 12:28 PM   #181 
                 - That's when you get a cite barring you from a property  LostinVA   Aug-15-08 03:07 PM   #187 
                    - My bad!  tannybogus   Aug-15-08 03:39 PM   #188 
  - It's a Shame The Columnist Chose to Leave Out Target's Return Policy  Crisco   Aug-15-08 03:44 PM   #189 
     - the return policy is in the 1st page of the article  northernlights   Aug-15-08 04:37 PM   #190 
        - Ah  Crisco   Aug-15-08 05:04 PM   #191 
 

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