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Fri Aug-15-08 05:19 AM
Response to Reply #52 |
| 58. Envelopes were pre-franked. n/t |
| -FBI's "Smoking Gun" Against Ivins Evaporates |
kpete |
Aug-14-08 08:43 AM |
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Great post! Don't know why.... |
wildbilln864 |
Aug-14-08 08:46 AM |
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The FBI hounded a man to death. The WRONG man. |
Canuckistanian |
Aug-14-08 09:14 AM |
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they do hound people |
Sees Clearly |
Aug-14-08 11:59 AM |
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Every department in our government |
asjr |
Aug-14-08 09:16 AM |
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I'm surprised they're always caught flat-footed with their stories. However, they |
lulu in NC |
Aug-14-08 09:33 AM |
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A very correct, but very sad point |
truedelphi |
Aug-14-08 01:12 PM |
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Then there's the question of the copier |
Mabus |
Aug-14-08 10:14 AM |
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Good memory and good catch by suffragette |
Maestro |
Aug-14-08 12:45 PM |
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At the very least, was it on his way to the mail box |
Mabus |
Aug-14-08 01:36 PM |
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It was probably a copy machine near Hatfill's home, lol. |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-14-08 01:45 PM |
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You know me |
Mabus |
Aug-14-08 01:51 PM |
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Mabus: why wasn't there another attack between 10/06 and 10/26 |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-14-08 02:00 PM |
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I can think of several reasons |
Mabus |
Aug-14-08 05:01 PM |
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We don't know the whole first /second batch was gone and |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-14-08 05:12 PM |
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You are correct. |
Mabus |
Aug-14-08 05:55 PM |
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If Ivans drove to NJ and copied the letters there |
zeemike |
Aug-14-08 03:27 PM |
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The FBI would say he had been vaccinated, which is true. |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-14-08 03:28 PM |
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Very carefully |
Mabus |
Aug-14-08 05:39 PM |
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This is completely subjective so, bear with me for a sec. |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-14-08 06:50 PM |
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And part of his management was therapy |
Mabus |
Aug-14-08 07:35 PM |
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Right. And when you have both hands that full |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-14-08 07:52 PM |
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It was publicly solicited |
PATRICK |
Aug-15-08 08:06 AM |
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I wouldn't expect |
northernlights |
Aug-14-08 09:47 PM |
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Good points. -nt |
Maestro |
Aug-14-08 09:55 PM |
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Envelopes were pre-franked. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-15-08 05:19 AM |
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The envelopes were taped |
Mabus |
Aug-15-08 08:47 AM |
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I fear this story will die and everybody will just take the FBI's version at face value. |
arcadian |
Aug-14-08 10:30 AM |
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There doesn't seem to be an alternative any more. |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-14-08 02:35 PM |
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"they're still making it up as they go along" |
stubtoe |
Aug-14-08 10:45 AM |
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playing the role of Lee Hamilton, Tom Daschle has seen all he needs to see. |
Supersedeas |
Aug-14-08 10:49 AM |
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I KNEW there was something stinky about their case against Ivins |
Th1onein |
Aug-14-08 11:03 AM |
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The anthrax mailings were probably another "Wag the Dog" move by BushCo and the admin HAD |
BrklynLiberal |
Aug-14-08 11:09 AM |
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The FBI does rime investigation like Creationists do biological research-- |
Jackpine Radical |
Aug-14-08 11:31 AM |
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Hair Samples in Anthrax Case Don't Match |
robertpaulsen |
Aug-14-08 12:00 PM |
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Almost seven years, and they're still making it up as they go along. |
sofa king |
Aug-14-08 01:00 PM |
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Dr. Ivins said he was in the lab late because things were not good at home. |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-14-08 01:44 PM |
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Unfortunately they didn't completely screw up |
magellan |
Aug-14-08 01:47 PM |
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I'm curious about the fascination at DU with proving Ivins's innocence. |
Buzz Clik |
Aug-14-08 02:19 PM |
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It's not that he couldn't have done it. It's that they've "closed the case" |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-14-08 02:22 PM |
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It is the fact that, as with Hatfill, the claims about Ivins don't add up - |
NCevilDUer |
Aug-14-08 02:54 PM |
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Even with a deceased defendent, they can't make a case. |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-14-08 02:57 PM |
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While it's not totally impossible to prove a negative.. |
Fumesucker |
Aug-14-08 03:35 PM |
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Anything is possible and this type of thing could happen to any of us |
Mabus |
Aug-14-08 07:03 PM |
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It certainly could! |
pipi_k |
Aug-15-08 08:38 AM |
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If they wanted to, they could go after almost any of us |
Mabus |
Aug-15-08 09:15 AM |
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All I have seen is DUers questioning the 'lone gunman' theory. |
Swamp Rat |
Aug-14-08 07:07 PM |
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Really? I guess I'm unfortunate enough to have missed every one of those posts. |
Buzz Clik |
Aug-14-08 07:14 PM |
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I can't find any scientist/expert not connected to FBI that believes |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-14-08 07:46 PM |
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Ken Alibek, who is perhaps the top weaponized anthrax expert... |
AntiFascist |
Aug-14-08 10:21 PM |
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Ivans as the scapegoat does not preclude the involvement of additional assassins, |
Swamp Rat |
Aug-14-08 08:28 PM |
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Yeah, someone needs to remind the FBI the the presumption of innocence |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-15-08 04:04 AM |
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The FBI's role is not to presume innocence. |
Buzz Clik |
Aug-15-08 07:17 AM |
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Are those mutually exclusive? FBI doesn't operate in a vacuum |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-15-08 02:02 PM |
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Your post has to be the most self-contradictory I've seen at DU. |
Buzz Clik |
Aug-15-08 07:15 AM |
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No 'contradictions' were presented - you just did not comprehend for some reason. |
Swamp Rat |
Aug-15-08 01:58 PM |
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Your grammatical analytical skills, unfortunately, are not your weakest point. |
Buzz Clik |
Aug-15-08 02:11 PM |
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There is a range |
Mabus |
Aug-14-08 07:55 PM |
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it's not that he couldn't have done it... |
northernlights |
Aug-14-08 10:05 PM |
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As much as I agree with you, keep this in mind: |
Buzz Clik |
Aug-15-08 07:24 AM |
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It doesn't matter if the whole forum is done in Post-Modern Tinfoil. |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-15-08 02:08 PM |
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Ivins - Sole Culprit Not Possible |
Ennealogic |
Aug-14-08 03:33 PM |
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Welcome to DU, Ennealogic. |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-14-08 03:35 PM |
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## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
DU GrovelBot |
Aug-14-08 03:35 PM |
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and no body to try in court, how convenient--friggin bunglers |
natrat |
Aug-14-08 05:17 PM |
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Follow-up on seizure of library computers |
suffragette |
Aug-14-08 06:58 PM |
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They've spread more innuendo. Is that the purpose? |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-14-08 07:45 PM |
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Spreading more innuendo is always a top purpose for them. |
suffragette |
Aug-14-08 08:07 PM |
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According to the document |
Mabus |
Aug-14-08 07:49 PM |
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Ivins attorney should go public at some point--Mukasey is trying this thing in the Media |
Supersedeas |
Aug-15-08 02:06 PM |
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kr |
Progs Rock |
Aug-15-08 03:51 AM |
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NPR yesterday... |
WattleBreakfast |
Aug-15-08 08:09 AM |
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And it's about to get worse: FBI to get freer rein |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-15-08 02:00 PM |
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And just in time for the elections |
Mabus |
Aug-15-08 02:56 PM |
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They fucking Guy Montag'ed this guy |
romulusnr |
Aug-15-08 06:45 PM |
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