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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 03:35 PM
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63. Was anyone on Obama's staff a paid lobbyist for a country involved in his visit?
You do realize that McCain's campaign staffer was paid to work on behalf of Georgia in our country and that there are more than just political discussions had when someone is paid to lobby for you? Those people are negotiating on your behalf which is a direct violation of the law Will is discussing.

Obama visited other countries, probably discussed policy views but McCain's guy actually is paid to negotiate on behalf of this other country.

Big difference.

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  -Some info I sent to TPM re: McCain, Georgia, and the felony they're about to commit... WilliamPitt  Aug-14-08 04:20 AM   #0 
  - Nominated  H2O Man   Aug-14-08 05:00 AM   #1 
  - No, He is thinking about the Lonnigan Act.  King Coal   Aug-14-08 12:56 PM   #51 
  - It worked for Poppy in 1980  formercia   Aug-14-08 05:07 AM   #2 
  - McCain would rather start a war than lose an election. Georgia thinks they are paying for US support  bjobotts   Aug-14-08 04:13 PM   #68 
     - McCain wants to be another 'War President.'  formercia   Aug-15-08 05:55 AM   #96 
  - I'm sure the corporate media will be all over this.  Warren Stupidity   Aug-14-08 05:44 AM   #3 
  - Give me until noon  WilliamPitt   Aug-14-08 05:47 AM   #4 
     - Oh, well, that will make it a front page story on the Times  theboss   Aug-14-08 08:19 AM   #25 
     - ROFL Boss. That's a good one.  King Coal   Aug-14-08 12:59 PM   #54 
     - Well, at least get the name right. Sheesh.  King Coal   Aug-14-08 12:58 PM   #53 
  - What if the Russians come up with dead US contractors in Ossetia?  formercia   Aug-14-08 06:02 AM   #5 
  - They already did  TheLastMohican   Aug-14-08 06:36 AM   #10 
  - K & R  gademocrat7   Aug-14-08 06:07 AM   #6 
  - Great post  malaise   Aug-14-08 06:22 AM   #7 
  - Hey Will. Good to see you back in the mix. Great Post.  annabanana   Aug-14-08 06:24 AM   #8 
  - Help me out here.  MH1   Aug-14-08 06:31 AM   #9 
  - While it surely is an assumption, I'd be hard-put to call it a big leap.  WilliamPitt   Aug-14-08 07:48 AM   #17 
  - So...to counteract that....we arrest them?  theboss   Aug-14-08 08:13 AM   #23 
  - Nah. We'll just point out their lawbreaking.  WilliamPitt   Aug-14-08 08:41 AM   #33 
     - Because every American is well-versed in the Logan Act  theboss   Aug-14-08 10:00 AM   #37 
        - Lannihan. It's called the Lannihan Act.  King Coal   Aug-14-08 01:33 PM   #58 
  - Yeah but I still don't think you have any evidence of Logan Act violation.  MH1   Aug-14-08 08:46 AM   #34 
  - Where, specifically, does McCain say anything about "negotiating"?  MH1   Aug-14-08 08:55 AM   #35 
     - McCain SUPPORTERS are not welcome on DU.  kestrel91316   Aug-14-08 10:38 PM   #85 
  - Uh, don't get lost on your way back to the DLC bus  jaybeat   Aug-14-08 10:48 AM   #40 
  - We are not pro-Russian. We just want the truth.  JDPriestly   Aug-14-08 02:28 PM   #62 
     - Here is another small excerpt from Der Standard.  JDPriestly   Aug-14-08 03:40 PM   #64 
  - didn't Jesse Jackson do something similar?  zazen   Aug-14-08 07:00 AM   #11 
  - Yes he did  conscious evolution   Aug-14-08 07:24 AM   #12 
  - Everyone's missing the double-standard rule: If a REPUBLICAN does it, it's OK..  Triana   Aug-14-08 07:28 AM   #13 
  - What a stinging rebuke of Obama  Crabby Appleton   Aug-14-08 07:29 AM   #14 
  - Thank you  MH1   Aug-14-08 07:42 AM   #16 
  - This place has always been a little nutty  theboss   Aug-14-08 08:12 AM   #21 
  - But was he negotiating with opposing sides?  Lisa0825   Aug-14-08 08:17 AM   #24 
  - But there's a big difference between speaking with and negotiating  Time for change   Aug-14-08 08:37 AM   #30 
  - McCain would rather start a war than lose an election. Lobbyist fees to lobby McCain  bjobotts   Aug-14-08 04:19 PM   #71 
  - How many wars did he put himself in the middle of?  WilliamPitt   Aug-14-08 08:40 AM   #32 
  - So, every congressperson or activist who visited Africa over the last 20 years...  theboss   Aug-14-08 10:34 AM   #39 
     - Have you? Did every Congress person go to Africa with  babylonsister   Aug-14-08 11:49 AM   #43 
     - I am assuming that at some point an American was in Darfur and asked someone to stop  theboss   Aug-14-08 01:08 PM   #55 
     - The president sometimes sends emissaries who are charged  JDPriestly   Aug-14-08 03:48 PM   #66 
     - I think the difference is McCain saying things like: We are all Georgians.  pnwmom   Aug-15-08 03:39 AM   #94 
  - Was anyone on Obama's staff a paid lobbyist for a country involved in his visit?  MessiahRp   Aug-14-08 03:35 PM   #63 
  - Obama went with a Congressional delegation as a visitor.  JDPriestly   Aug-14-08 03:43 PM   #65 
  - i'm sure mr mukasey will be all over this...  spanone   Aug-14-08 07:41 AM   #15 
  - Find where Rove fits in with his Crimean "vacation"...  Waiting For Everyman   Aug-14-08 08:03 AM   #18 
  - Yep...  Mr Hedley Bowes   Aug-14-08 02:11 PM   #61 
  - Rove was busy trying to arrange an "October" surprise in "August"  bjobotts   Aug-14-08 04:21 PM   #72 
  - The Logan Act has always been about political grandstanding  starroute   Aug-14-08 08:07 AM   #19 
  - Does this mean that Jesse Jackson can be arrested?  theboss   Aug-14-08 08:11 AM   #20 
  - McHelter Skelter was appointed Deputy pResident yesterday  Hubert Flottz   Aug-14-08 08:13 AM   #22 
  - Thank you!  DailyGrind51   Aug-14-08 08:23 AM   #26 
  - Unfortunately, no chance in hell Mukasey will prosecute...  Fiendish Thingy   Aug-14-08 08:25 AM   #27 
  - McCain is getting scarier and scarier -- He appears to be desperate  Time for change   Aug-14-08 08:34 AM   #28 
  - Are there any agreements that we're breaking by sending 'soldiers'  higher class   Aug-14-08 08:35 AM   #29 
  - doesn't any member of congress have the right to travel and investigate something  unblock   Aug-14-08 08:39 AM   #31 
  - You are WRONG, and you are also missing the whole point!  L. Coyote   Aug-14-08 09:14 AM   #36 
  - how is this different than Obama's trip or Pelosi or other Senators going abroad???  LSK   Aug-14-08 10:09 AM   #38 
  - McCain committing yet another adulterous act against the American people  whistle   Aug-14-08 10:50 AM   #41 
  - Will, is their visit to Georgia any different from Pelosi's to Syria?  Efilroft Sul   Aug-14-08 11:13 AM   #42 
  - Pelosi just reiterated her support for the Bush administration's  JDPriestly   Aug-14-08 03:58 PM   #67 
  - Didn't Ronnie Ray-Gun do this with Iraq hostages  LiberalEsto   Aug-14-08 11:57 AM   #44 
  - The hostages were in Iran  crickets   Aug-14-08 11:26 PM   #87 
  - There are definitely big questions that need to be aired here.  bleever   Aug-14-08 11:59 AM   #45 
  - No, there are not  theboss   Aug-14-08 12:21 PM   #48 
     - With Rove meeting with Saakashvili in Yalta, and Scheunemann  bleever   Aug-14-08 12:32 PM   #50 
  - kick and thank you  ensho   Aug-14-08 12:11 PM   #46 
  - K&R!!!  cliffordu   Aug-14-08 12:18 PM   #47 
  - K&R  SalviaBlue   Aug-14-08 12:29 PM   #49 
  - So is the Logan Act on Mukassey's list of laws that when violated aren't really crimes? n/t  hootinholler   Aug-14-08 12:57 PM   #52 
  - There is no violation  theboss   Aug-14-08 01:12 PM   #57 
     - Thank you Congress, for taking away Junior's fast-track authority.  formercia   Aug-14-08 04:18 PM   #70 
  - You realize that all Bush has to say is "I'm cool with this" and McCain can do what he wants  theboss   Aug-14-08 01:09 PM   #56 
  - That was my first thought, too. n/t  pnwmom   Aug-15-08 03:40 AM   #95 
  - Freepers bring this up anytime a democratic senator goes overseas  muryan   Aug-14-08 01:47 PM   #59 
  - Exactly....we are becoming as stupid as Freepers  theboss   Aug-14-08 01:53 PM   #60 
  - Maybe King George told him he could do it and thus it isn't a crime.  ray of light   Aug-14-08 04:16 PM   #69 
  - It's not a crime  theboss   Aug-14-08 04:23 PM   #73 
  - Just watch....McCain will get things done that bush can't  notadmblnd   Aug-14-08 04:33 PM   #74 
  - As long as Bushler authorizes the trip in any way, it is legal.  Swamp Rat   Aug-14-08 04:33 PM   #75 
  - Yep. The warmonger that McSame is...  Life Long Dem   Aug-14-08 05:44 PM   #76 
  - Maybe Leiberbush and Graham are just the bag men.  Vinca   Aug-14-08 05:46 PM   #77 
  - McCain changed this law yesterday with a "Signing Statement".  sellitman   Aug-14-08 05:52 PM   #78 
  - Don't look now, but Iran is only 200 Miles south of this "War"  Grinchie   Aug-14-08 08:09 PM   #79 
  - Good on you for trying. Truly, you are a patriot.  beac   Aug-14-08 08:57 PM   #80 
  - K&R  RedLetterRev   Aug-14-08 09:54 PM   #81 
  - Wow. I am so freaking sick of the cold war.  crickets   Aug-14-08 11:55 PM   #88 
  - Excellent. K&R. To the very top!  David Zephyr   Aug-14-08 09:58 PM   #82 
  - McCocaine (I like to call him like that) should be prosecuted....  jeff30997   Aug-14-08 10:21 PM   #83 
  - News flash to Will Pitt:  kestrel91316   Aug-14-08 10:35 PM   #84 
  - Unfortunately, McCain Didn't Say They'd be Negotiating  ribofunk   Aug-14-08 11:16 PM   #86 
  - Good point. Perhaps Mikheil Saakashvili will make it unnecessary for anyone to ask.  crickets   Aug-15-08 12:11 AM   #91 
  - 109th recommendation and will kick as needed. nt  nc4bo   Aug-14-08 11:58 PM   #89 
  - I love Ahhnold.  IamyourTVandIownyou   Aug-15-08 12:05 AM   #90 
  - The Logan Act is an arcane relic that can't really be enforced  Hippo_Tron   Aug-15-08 12:14 AM   #92 
  - Unless I'm missing something, Georgia already did  Waiting For Everyman   Aug-15-08 02:23 AM   #93 
     - Are you suggesting that the Secretary of State can't negotiate?  theboss   Aug-15-08 08:17 AM   #97 
     - In that case he's collaborating with the administration...  Hippo_Tron   Aug-15-08 11:08 PM   #98 
  - kick  AllieB   Aug-16-08 09:27 AM   #99 
 

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