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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 08:35 AM
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29. Are there any agreements that we're breaking by sending 'soldiers'
Edited on Thu Aug-14-08 08:38 AM by higher class
to a country such as we did, whether they are from traditional division reporting through admirals and generals and on up to the President or a mercenary bunch reporting to the State Dept and then up?

Or are we breaking an agreement just by sending our mercenaries and operators into the country?

If Rice told the Amabassador in Iraq not to extend help to Obama, will she also tell the Amabassador in Georgia not to extend help to Leiberman and Graham? Also, yesterday or the day before the State Dept ordered all Americans out of Georgia - please include that. Seems to me that means No Visitors.

The way you present this, all three Senators were/would be acting on their own. Might the spys on DU advise the check writers who sign their spy checks about your post causing Bush to turn it around to avoid the Act. He could say he is sending Leiberman and Graham on a mission (making Rice look deficient), and McCain will accompany them? The campaign coup for McCain and Repubs would be for nothing? Or would they allow it to play out as you describe (because they don't care about our laws) and if there is flack later, just say that Bush authorized it and the old 'gandists would have their fodder to make the old gullibles believe that the Dems are playing with the Logan Act for political reasons?

The key here is the lobbyist, it seems - he must be exposed and his name become a household word in certain homes that can handle the intracacies.

Also, this plays into a snippit I heard about two years ago - Bush presented an idea for a future where trained people from all over the world would be peacekeepers and sent into countries. He used Africans as an example - and tied it to economic pluses for the jobs that would be provided. Well, it looks like he meant Blackwater with their recruiting from Chile and other places and it looks like he meant corporate purposes. They wouldn't be in there if this had been a mountain top in one of the other former USSR countires where oil drigging was out of the question.

This also appears to be one of their five for one specials - they (Cheney, George, dragging along Rice) had a major oil maneuver to take care of following a probably genuine uprising by the people in a part of Georgia. Now, they, as usual, are just playing out all the other little benefits that could come from one act so that if they don't win on one, they might have a bonanza on the other. Or confuse it all so much that the media wouldn't touch it and would consider the complexity too much to explain. Suskinds reality statement in practice in one of its forms.

Logan Act, yes, if the lawyers among us agree. That's domestic. Are there any international treaties, also?

Yes, give us a cleaned up version so that we can forward it.
Good job, Will.
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