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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 05:54 PM
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41. Are you not aware that Guiliani says you ought to pass a written test to own a gun? That don't hunt
in the South. Edwards, Clark, and Webb all believe in a broad reading of the Bill of Rights, which includes the Second Amendment.

Here are a few other positions that WILL NOT SELL to Repubs in the South:

Giuliani is pro-choice and has even supported the right to D&X procedures (also called "partial-birth abortions" by the folks who vote regularly in the Repub primary and who won't be voting for Giuliani).

Giuliani opposed Bush on banning gay marriage and extended all city benefits to same-sex couples (with a crowded field of Repub options, do you REALLY think they are going to choose the ONLY candidate who has extended benefits to same-sex partners?).

Giuliani opposed prayer in school (sweet Jesus, won't they pray for delivery from Rudy's secularism).

Giuliani supports the Senate's immigration bill will a guest worker plan and a path to citizenship (called "amnesty" by the folks who vote regularly in the Repub primary and who won't be voting for Giuliani).

Just in case you skipped the opening line:

Giuliani has proposed that all gun owners ought to have to pass a written test (do you REALLY need a focus group to tell you how this one goes over among the right-wing nutjobs who vote in Repub primaries?).

There is zero-point-zero chance that Giuliani will get the nomination (and that's leaving aside his sexcapades in the governor's mansion and his divorce-by-press-conference and his "accidental" marriage to a cousin etc.) once the base gets wind of Giuliani's record on not being a complete tool on every issue.

If there was an open, non-partisan election, MAYBE - just MAYBE - Giuliani would have a chance. With the primary system in place, it will happen over Karl Rove's dead body (which might be a decent trade-off, but that's another topic).
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  -I think Giuliani may win the Rep. nomination cally  Mar-09-07 04:04 PM   #0 
  - My freeper Sister-in-Laws head will explode  AllegroRondo   Mar-09-07 04:07 PM   #1 
  - That will be entertaining.  Deep13   Mar-09-07 04:09 PM   #3 
  - The sad part is, the current Pope has already spoken on this  AllegroRondo   Mar-09-07 04:20 PM   #7 
     - So she's more Catholic than the Pope.  Deep13   Mar-09-07 04:23 PM   #9 
  - He won't be pro-choice for long, nor tolerant to gay people. He must submit  AlinPA   Mar-09-07 04:28 PM   #11 
  - The other GOP candidates sure as hell won't give him a free pass  Telly Savalas   Mar-09-07 07:04 PM   #52 
  - He's not just pro-choice; he's pro-D & X (so-called partial birth abortion), and has publicly said  Czolgosz   Mar-09-07 05:04 PM   #24 
  - That might not be so good for us.  Deep13   Mar-09-07 04:07 PM   #2 
  - I think we win NY anyway  DemKR   Mar-09-07 04:18 PM   #6 
     - New York we will keep.  AX10   Mar-09-07 05:14 PM   #29 
  - I hope so. We take back the South in 2008!  Czolgosz   Mar-09-07 04:17 PM   #4 
  - What specific Dem candidates do think would possibly win states that  skipos   Mar-09-07 04:29 PM   #12 
  - Re: "didn't win much of the south" Hey, let's count the EC votes he did win  Bucky   Mar-09-07 04:46 PM   #17 
  - I don't understand your point  skipos   Mar-09-07 05:02 PM   #23 
  - Bill Clinton wasn't running against a thrice-married, pro-gay rights, pro-D & X , New York Yankee  Czolgosz   Mar-09-07 05:01 PM   #22 
     - So you think  skipos   Mar-09-07 05:10 PM   #27 
        - Many Southern fundamentalist Repubs harbor a great regional bias against New Yorkers. Also, there is  Czolgosz   Mar-09-07 05:33 PM   #32 
        - No he won't - they think he's as Coulter described him.  Clark2008   Mar-09-07 05:43 PM   #37 
        - He's 100 times stronger than Clark here (and I like Clark, but Clark is flat-lining in the South)  Czolgosz   Mar-09-07 05:46 PM   #38 
        - You seriously believe that the fundies will just stay home...  AX10   Mar-10-07 11:25 AM   #59 
        - Kerry/ Edwards did not do well in those states  skipos   Mar-09-07 05:48 PM   #39 
           - Are you not aware that Guiliani says you ought to pass a written test to own a gun? That don't hunt  Czolgosz   Mar-09-07 05:54 PM   #41 
              - Most people disagree with you.  skipos   Mar-09-07 06:08 PM   #45 
                 - the key ingredient he's ignoring is the impact the media are having in their idolatry of St. Rudy.  Gabi Hayes   Mar-09-07 06:16 PM   #47 
                 - Just as the media creates a front-runner, it destroys a front-runner. That's what passes for news in  Czolgosz   Mar-09-07 06:23 PM   #50 
                 - Repubs are easily fooled by the media  jcrew2001   Mar-09-07 07:24 PM   #53 
                 - They were offering similar odds on Gephardt 4 years ago. I am not opposed to Guiliani getting the  Czolgosz   Mar-09-07 06:18 PM   #49 
        - Also, many Southern Baptists see Guiliani as (yet another) threat to "the institution of marriage"  Czolgosz   Mar-09-07 05:43 PM   #36 
  - Go to surveyusa.com  skipos   Mar-11-07 06:35 PM   #60 
  - This Could Be a Good Thing For Us  iamjoy   Mar-09-07 04:17 PM   #5 
  - I am not going to hold my breath on a 3rd party emerging if Dame Rudy is nominated  skipos   Mar-09-07 04:33 PM   #14 
     - Correct: they're much better about falling into lock step. Plus Giulie will toss 'em a sop for VP.  Bucky   Mar-09-07 04:49 PM   #19 
  - I think Rudy's dead on arrival. Even Brownback will beat him in Iowa.  Old Crusoe   Mar-09-07 04:20 PM   #8 
  - But if they split the vote, then Rudy may win..nt  cally   Mar-09-07 05:00 PM   #21 
  - Sit back and wait for the popping sounds...  TygrBright   Mar-09-07 04:24 PM   #10 
  - check it out.....  Gabi Hayes   Mar-09-07 04:33 PM   #13 
  - I agree. My moderate (not wingnut) republican east coast relatives are all for him  kineta   Mar-09-07 04:34 PM   #15 
  - I think it's too early to tell.  ronnykmarshall   Mar-09-07 04:40 PM   #16 
  - Actually he is already catering to theml he has already said that  MasonJar   Mar-09-07 04:47 PM   #18 
  - Geez, if he is the best the GOP has to offer, they are so screwn!  Blue State Native   Mar-09-07 04:52 PM   #20 
  - I think he has a good shot.............  PaDem   Mar-09-07 05:05 PM   #25 
  - I agree. He will the worse candidate for us.  AX10   Mar-09-07 05:07 PM   #26 
  - Yep. Polls show Rudy beating HRC in PA, NJ, OH, FL  skipos   Mar-09-07 05:12 PM   #28 
     - But it's very early.  AX10   Mar-09-07 05:16 PM   #30 
        - Sure it's early but Dame Rudy's favorables are about 70%  skipos   Mar-09-07 05:21 PM   #31 
        - I think my fundie relatives  Frances   Mar-09-07 05:40 PM   #35 
        - here's how I see it playing out................  PaDem   Mar-09-07 06:17 PM   #48 
           - I think you make good points  Frances   Mar-09-07 08:41 PM   #55 
              - I think these leaders like Dobson and Falwell...........  PaDem   Mar-09-07 08:48 PM   #57 
        - But Rudy WAS a hero on 9-11. In that, he didn't spend the whole day hiding.  impeachdubya   Mar-09-07 05:58 PM   #43 
           - Fortunately NYC firefighters don't agree  AndreaCG   Mar-09-07 06:49 PM   #51 
        - It is early, and a lot can change..........  PaDem   Mar-09-07 05:34 PM   #33 
  - He's not tall-ish and he hasn't got good hair.  MrsGrumpy   Mar-09-07 05:34 PM   #34 
  - If nothing else, maybe that'll make some folks shut up about the all-powerful "values voter"  impeachdubya   Mar-09-07 05:54 PM   #40 
  - The problem is, the fundies RUN that party. Rudy thinks abortion should remain legal, whereas  impeachdubya   Mar-09-07 05:57 PM   #42 
  - Nominating a pro-choice candidate? Not in my lifetime. A pro-choice/pro-gun-control candidate? Never  Czolgosz   Mar-09-07 06:03 PM   #44 
     - Bush Sr and Reagan were not  jcrew2001   Mar-09-07 07:32 PM   #54 
        - Both Reagan and Bush Sr. were anti-choice and anti-gun-control. They were both social reactionaries.  Czolgosz   Mar-09-07 09:33 PM   #58 
  - I'll be thrilled. We have a lot on him.  helderheid   Mar-09-07 06:10 PM   #46 
  - I dont care who the rethugs nominate..  and-justice-for-all   Mar-09-07 08:43 PM   #56 
 

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