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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 05:50 PM
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125. The Bill of Rights was an afterthought by Madison because......
....some of the states would not ratify the new Constitution without a Bill of Rights. Only 10 articles? No right to vote. No right to life. Many others.

Here is a real Declaration of Rights - adopted 8 years before in Massachusetts.

It is the oldest living, working Constitution on the planet. Uh, it's been amended over 100 times. Now that is what you call a living, working Constitution.

For example, the very First Article:

Article I. All men are born free and equal, and have certain natural, essential, and unalienable rights; among which may be reckoned the right of enjoying and defending their lives and liberties; that of acquiring, possessing, and protecting property; in fine, that of seeking and obtaining their safety and happiness.

Changed to:

Article CVI. Article I of Part the First of the Constitution is hereby annulled and the following is adopted:-

All people are born free and equal and have certain natural, essential and unalienable rights; among which may be reckoned the right of enjoying and defending their lives and liberties; that of acquiring, possessing and protecting property; in fine, that of seeking and obtaining their safety and happiness. Equality under the law shall not be denied or abridged because of sex, race, color, creed or national origin.

The US Bill of Rights was the source of many lawsuits starting in the mid 20th century when the "rights revolution" started, due to the vagueness of its language.

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  - At this point, perhaps they can  bdf   Aug-13-08 07:09 PM   #85 
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  - The new purpose of Congress is to make the illegal legal.  mmonk   Aug-13-08 10:14 AM   #18 
  - Yep  Solly Mack   Aug-13-08 10:14 AM   #19 
  - and gutting the Amendments out of the Constitution is policy  alyce douglas   Aug-13-08 10:59 AM   #52 
     - all just policy..albeit bad policy....just policy people disagree with  Solly Mack   Aug-13-08 11:03 AM   #54 
  - A congress person that doesn't understand or pretends not to understand lawbreaking should be fired!  calipendence   Aug-13-08 10:14 AM   #20 
  - I see people learned little or nothing from the Clinton impeachment and trial.....  suston96   Aug-13-08 10:16 AM   #21 
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  - an analogy  Two Americas   Aug-14-08 02:54 AM   #108 
     - A question.  BushDespiser12   Aug-14-08 03:46 AM   #110 
        - not seeing the connection  Two Americas   Aug-14-08 12:11 PM   #116 
  - Once again, "worthless" is redefined by Nancy Pelosi.  Ian_rd   Aug-13-08 10:16 AM   #22 
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  - Ask the families of the 7000 plus that have died under his watch if he should stay in office.  bamacrat   Aug-13-08 10:25 AM   #30 
  - No, but you can impeach him for . . .  Brigid   Aug-13-08 10:25 AM   #31 
  - Instead of spending all this time and energy on useless impeachment talk.....  suston96   Aug-13-08 10:29 AM   #33 
  - it is not an either/or  Two Americas   Aug-14-08 02:42 AM   #107 
     - Read my link to the Constitutional Convention minutes....  suston96   Aug-14-08 12:06 PM   #115 
        - not following you  Two Americas   Aug-14-08 12:30 PM   #117 
           - Do you advocate removing impeachment from the Constitution? Yes.  suston96   Aug-14-08 01:32 PM   #120 
              - OK  Two Americas   Aug-14-08 01:40 PM   #122 
                 - Why not advocate impeachment? Sure, go ahead. "Grand Inquest"......  suston96   Aug-14-08 03:28 PM   #123 
                    - I am lost  Two Americas   Aug-14-08 05:39 PM   #124 
                       - The Bill of Rights was an afterthought by Madison because......  suston96   Aug-14-08 05:50 PM   #125 
                          - I see  Two Americas   Aug-14-08 08:18 PM   #128 
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  - V . . O . . M . . I . . T ! ! ! ! !  paparush   Aug-13-08 10:40 AM   #37 
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  - !!!!  wiggs   Aug-13-08 12:06 PM   #62 
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  - !!!!!!! n/t  slipslidingaway   Aug-13-08 11:00 AM   #53 
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  - Nancy the Enabler  notsodumbhillbilly   Aug-13-08 10:54 AM   #44 
  - Oh. I *see*.  leftofthedial   Aug-13-08 10:54 AM   #45 
  - But Nancy, aren't we supposed to impeach a president who destroys the constitution?  book_worm   Aug-13-08 10:55 AM   #46 
  - ....remind me why I vote for these people?  Kitsune   Aug-13-08 10:55 AM   #48 
  - Nancy The Nazi -- Sergeant "I See Nothing" Schultz  Senator   Aug-13-08 10:56 AM   #49 
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  - I see nothing. I hear nothing. I speak nothing.  Tennessee Gal   Aug-13-08 11:24 AM   #55 
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  - THIRTY FIVE articles of Impeachment  Neo   Aug-13-08 12:03 PM   #59 
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  - Yes. Crimes by government officials are just policy disagreements  Solly Mack   Aug-13-08 12:23 PM   #63 
  - Exactly! I don't agree with TORTURE as our policy--IT IS A CRIME  librechik   Aug-13-08 12:38 PM   #64 
  - What a worthless jackass she is. It has nothing to do with "disagreement"  El Pinko   Aug-13-08 12:42 PM   #65 
  - She's not an idiot. She's deliberately misleading the public by  autorank   Aug-13-08 12:47 PM   #66 
  - Two more chances to tell her in person what a great job she's doing...  warren pease   Aug-13-08 12:56 PM   #67 
  - See, here is the problem - nobody knows what "...high Crimes and Misdemeanors" are.  suston96   Aug-13-08 01:28 PM   #70 
  - ()*)(^&#*$^&*%@#_  FarceOfNature   Aug-13-08 01:31 PM   #71 
  - Hey! Nancy pelosi proved herslf to be ineffevtive and must be replaced ASAP...!  Franc_Lee   Aug-14-08 02:03 AM   #101 
  - Agree on impeachment, disagree on war funding  CrazyDude   Aug-13-08 01:46 PM   #73 
  - We should feel privileged  Dogtown   Aug-13-08 01:58 PM   #74 
  - Not surprising from the woman who signed off on TORTURE  magellan   Aug-13-08 02:00 PM   #76 
  - We need an opposition party in this country, NOW!  elehhhhna   Aug-13-08 04:04 PM   #77 
  - Yuck!  Swamp Rat   Aug-13-08 04:05 PM   #78 
  - Madam Speaker can't read  vanboggie   Aug-13-08 04:46 PM   #79 
  - She's right  DFW   Aug-13-08 06:12 PM   #82 
  - *tears hair out*  GreenPartyVoter   Aug-13-08 06:29 PM   #83 
  - Two words-  riverdeep   Aug-13-08 06:30 PM   #84 
  - But you CAN impeach him for BREAKING THE LAW.  Karenina   Aug-13-08 07:13 PM   #86 
  - Nancy, grow a brain. This is not about someone disagreeing with  appleannie1   Aug-13-08 07:24 PM   #88 
  - WTF is wrong with this clueless freak?  lonestarnot   Aug-13-08 07:31 PM   #90 
  - Nancy, if you can't lead, and you won't follow, just get the Hell out of the way! nt  eppur_se_muova   Aug-13-08 08:14 PM   #91 
  - Hey Pelosi...  sakabatou   Aug-13-08 08:17 PM   #92 
  - She belongs at The Hague next to Commander Lovely Man;  Phredicles   Aug-13-08 08:39 PM   #94 
  - There must be a very good reason why she is willing to make a fool of herself this way.  glitch   Aug-13-08 11:48 PM   #95 
  - She's Lieberman in a dress.  Usrename   Aug-14-08 12:45 AM   #96 
  - Why I ask you, would Cindy Sheehan be worse as the house speaker, that's mind boggling...?  Franc_Lee   Aug-14-08 01:46 AM   #99 
  - disagree with his policies? - man does she ever need to be bootd from her  Franc_Lee   Aug-14-08 02:10 AM   #102 
  - You do have a case, Nancy  tavalon   Aug-14-08 02:24 AM   #103 
  - She never heard of Valerie Plame.  WinkyDink   Aug-14-08 02:27 AM   #104 
  - You most certainly CAN, nancy dear.  calimary   Aug-14-08 02:38 AM   #106 
  - Go back to sleep, Nancy.  Xap   Aug-14-08 03:33 AM   #109 
  - I M P E A C H P E L O S I  judasdisney   Aug-14-08 05:50 AM   #112 
  - I guess this means that, at least, she disagrees with the policy of treason.  Kablooie   Aug-14-08 10:16 AM   #113 
  - vote this woman out of office please  alyce douglas   Aug-14-08 10:26 AM   #114 
  - sounds like Nancy Disaster buys the entire Unitary Executive theory  Supersedeas   Aug-14-08 12:33 PM   #118 
  - Christ, How I Hate That Broad.  Toasterlad   Aug-14-08 05:57 PM   #126 

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