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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 02:43 PM
Response to Reply #110
112. Can you trust the assigned patrolmen?
Weren't the guards at Abu Graib M.P.'s?

If this is happening a lot, then it's a failure of leadership to stop it. Leadership seems to be focused on avoiding bad press, however.

If the soldiers want it stopped, they have the means. I wonder if the term "blanket party" still has meaning in today's modern army.
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  -The private war of women soldiers donsu  Mar-09-07 12:08 PM   #0 
  - This is Beyond Sad  bigluckyfeet   Mar-09-07 12:23 PM   #1 
  - It's lethal. Women had died on duty in Iraq because they stopped  sfexpat2000   Mar-09-07 03:03 PM   #24 
  - This is outrageous.  kerstin   Mar-09-07 12:25 PM   #2 
  - K & R  mongo   Mar-09-07 12:54 PM   #3 
  - Kick  cwydro   Mar-09-07 01:48 PM   #4 
  - I made a video about Women Freedom Fighters  lovuian   Mar-09-07 01:59 PM   #5 
  - Amazing not more comments...  cwydro   Mar-09-07 01:59 PM   #6 
  - Well yuo know pizza  nadinbrzezinski   Mar-09-07 02:03 PM   #7 
     - Perhaps you're right...  cwydro   Mar-09-07 02:05 PM   #10 
        - The names that people call Coulter are connected  sleebarker   Mar-09-07 06:45 PM   #68 
           - Yes, indeed. Thank you for saying it.  Morgana LaFey   Mar-09-07 07:14 PM   #71 
              - Ann Coulter  mass.man   Mar-10-07 11:37 AM   #104 
                 - Aw. Our little mass.man has had a meltdown.  Kerrytravelers   Mar-10-07 12:25 PM   #105 
  - Hmm time to send this to my congress critters  nadinbrzezinski   Mar-09-07 02:03 PM   #8 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Mar-09-07 02:04 PM   #9 
  - Thank you for posting that. That is horrific.  Midlodemocrat   Mar-09-07 02:12 PM   #11 
  - 'bitch, ho, or dyke;' that sounds like the typical macho right wing attitude to any woman who  HardRocker05   Mar-09-07 02:17 PM   #12 
  - I thought the same thing.  knitter4democracy   Mar-09-07 03:25 PM   #36 
  - yeah, but thats okay  blondie58   Mar-10-07 06:10 AM   #89 
     - Amen to that.  knitter4democracy   Mar-10-07 08:23 AM   #95 
  - It was that way when I was in the Army  HeeBGBz   Mar-09-07 06:34 PM   #65 
     - I remember it well. I had to stay hyervigilant about any "private" conversation even  BleedingHeartPatriot   Mar-10-07 11:04 AM   #98 
  - K & R  wicket   Mar-09-07 02:30 PM   #13 
  - Women soldiers having PTSD at much higher rates than men. My guess is this is why.  bobbolink   Mar-09-07 02:33 PM   #14 
  - and what's dismaying, bobbolink  Skittles   Mar-10-07 07:23 AM   #90 
  - you are right - men worry about being killed, injured/maimed but  donsu   Mar-10-07 11:08 AM   #99 
  - Amy Goodman did a well done report on this topic this week.  sfexpat2000   Mar-09-07 02:34 PM   #15 
  - thanks for that link.  cwydro   Mar-09-07 03:34 PM   #39 
  - I figure that if men who rape and abuse are in the minority, there ought to be  Ron_Green   Mar-09-07 02:42 PM   #16 
  - I never thought of that.  sfexpat2000   Mar-09-07 03:01 PM   #23 
  - You would think that would work  alarimer   Mar-09-07 03:55 PM   #45 
     - This makes me think a conscripted military would be more reasonable.  Ron_Green   Mar-09-07 04:03 PM   #48 
        - I agree that some other countries are certainly worse  alarimer   Mar-09-07 04:10 PM   #50 
  - Tailhook redux.  TahitiNut   Mar-09-07 02:47 PM   #17 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Mar-09-07 02:48 PM   #19 
  - Coerced sex is far more common than actual rape.  Xithras   Mar-09-07 02:59 PM   #22 
  - mmm  Marnieworld   Mar-09-07 03:27 PM   #38 
     - Indeed. I sure don't see any distinction either.  TahitiNut   Mar-09-07 04:03 PM   #47 
     - It's not usually that direct  Xithras   Mar-09-07 04:21 PM   #51 
        - Yikes. I think I had a slightly different experience. The military is like so many other  BleedingHeartPatriot   Mar-10-07 01:19 PM   # 
  - Bullshit.  Ripley   Mar-09-07 03:07 PM   #27 
  - If it goes on in only ONE unit, it's appalling and merits prosecutions.  TahitiNut   Mar-09-07 03:18 PM   #33 
     - Again.  Ripley   Mar-09-07 03:25 PM   #37 
     - "Why do you feel it necessary to mischaracterize my position?"  candidate   Mar-09-07 04:44 PM   #54 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-09-07 04:55 PM   #56 
     - because you look at the situation from a male point of view  donsu   Mar-10-07 11:18 AM   #101 
  - Tell me  Ripley   Mar-09-07 03:22 PM   #35 
  - So, if it's not common, it's not a problem, huh?  TahitiNut   Mar-09-07 03:49 PM   #42 
  - And here we go again..  Ripley   Mar-09-07 04:32 PM   #52 
     - "And here we go again." ... you seem to be channeling Ronald Reagan  TahitiNut   Mar-09-07 05:28 PM   #59 
        - So, you use tricks like "Ronald Reagan"  Ripley   Mar-09-07 05:46 PM   #61 
           - When the foo shits, wear it.  TahitiNut   Mar-09-07 08:01 PM   #82 
  - What statistics?  Donald Ian Rankin   Mar-09-07 06:24 PM   #63 
  - Did you see this paragraph in the Salon article?  Gormy Cuss   Mar-09-07 05:10 PM   #58 
     - "who were seeking help for post-traumatic stress disorder"  TahitiNut   Mar-09-07 05:32 PM   #60 
        - Yes, that is a limitation to the second cited stat. The first , 30% of female vets reporting rape,  Gormy Cuss   Mar-09-07 06:23 PM   #62 
        - AFAIK, that's not materially different from the statistics on sexual assault for the whole country.  TahitiNut   Mar-09-07 06:47 PM   #69 
           - Given the authoritarian nature of the military, I would expect lower incidence of assault  Gormy Cuss   Mar-09-07 07:33 PM   #75 
              - It cuts both ways, I think.  TahitiNut   Mar-09-07 07:48 PM   #79 
        - C'mon, TN -- your "personal experience in the military"  Morgana LaFey   Mar-09-07 07:23 PM   #73 
           - Obviously the absence of ANY experience in the military ...  TahitiNut   Mar-09-07 07:38 PM   #76 
              - I think you're quite mistaken that rape in the military equals  Morgana LaFey   Mar-09-07 07:44 PM   #77 
              - and being an Amry wife for umpty-ump years doesn't count, I take it  Morgana LaFey   Mar-09-07 07:46 PM   #78 
                 - Project and dissociate much?  TahitiNut   Mar-09-07 07:53 PM   #81 
                    - Excellent avoidance tactic  Morgana LaFey   Mar-09-07 08:03 PM   #83 
  - Quis Custodiet Custodes Ipsos  Xithras   Mar-09-07 02:47 PM   #18 
  - And this is not helped by a command structure  nadinbrzezinski   Mar-09-07 02:50 PM   #20 
     - Remember Tailhook?  cwydro   Mar-09-07 02:52 PM   #21 
        - Bingo  nadinbrzezinski   Mar-09-07 03:06 PM   #26 
        - Tailhook had photos and video.  Xithras   Mar-09-07 03:09 PM   #28 
           - You are right.  cwydro   Mar-09-07 03:13 PM   #30 
  - Man, like soldiers don't have enough shit to deal with  walldude   Mar-09-07 03:05 PM   #25 
  - I call bull crap  dmost   Mar-09-07 06:33 PM   #64 
     - I was in the military too and it happens  HeeBGBz   Mar-09-07 06:40 PM   #67 
     - Mi semi-FReeper BIL was a Chief Warrant in the Army for 12+ years  LostinVA   Mar-10-07 07:49 AM   #92 
  - I never served with women....  Bigmack   Mar-09-07 03:11 PM   #29 
  - So is this behavior common or not?  Ron_Green   Mar-09-07 03:16 PM   #31 
  - I couldn't finish this. It's too sickening and sad.  Marnieworld   Mar-09-07 03:17 PM   #32 
  - Yeah,  cwydro   Mar-09-07 03:19 PM   #34 
  - Salon letters missing?  gaspee   Mar-09-07 03:44 PM   #40 
  - Your cynicism is valid  lukasahero   Mar-09-07 03:49 PM   #41 
  - Oh wow,  cwydro   Mar-09-07 03:52 PM   #43 
     - Yep  nadinbrzezinski   Mar-09-07 03:53 PM   #44 
        - yes I know,  cwydro   Mar-09-07 03:59 PM   #46 
  - Some of the early ones I read were disgusting  alarimer   Mar-09-07 04:03 PM   #49 
     - What's scary is that the women don't seem to feel safe around ANY males.  gatorboy   Mar-09-07 04:39 PM   #53 
     - There is peer pressure on the men to be macho  lwfern   Mar-09-07 05:00 PM   #57 
     - I would think there would be  alarimer   Mar-09-07 07:32 PM   #74 
     - I know...  cwydro   Mar-09-07 04:47 PM   #55 
        - Here's the worst part - every soldier is now tainted by the actions  hedgehog   Mar-09-07 06:35 PM   #66 
           - "Assigning escorts "  lukasahero   Mar-09-07 08:16 PM   #85 
  - Do women in the military have boyfriends they can  jcrew2001   Mar-09-07 06:58 PM   #70 
  - Women soldiers dying of dehydration  lostnfound   Mar-10-07 07:42 AM   #91 
     - i meant boyfriends or male allies that she can  jcrew2001   Mar-10-07 04:37 PM   #113 
  - doesn't surprise me...I had my share of it in the Navy  L A Woman   Mar-09-07 07:15 PM   #72 
  - "...still being treated as inferior soldiers and sex toys by many of their male colleagues."  BlueIris   Mar-09-07 07:50 PM   #80 
  - "and men have the nerve to tell us they love us"  Bonobo   Mar-09-07 08:07 PM   #84 
  - Do I not? And may I not say I do?  Mister Ed   Mar-10-07 07:54 AM   #93 
  - This may be the sickest part of an  motocicleta   Mar-09-07 10:37 PM   #86 
  - War is Hell  NEOBuckeye   Mar-10-07 12:13 AM   #87 
     - you're right  maxanne   Mar-10-07 09:57 AM   #97 
  - Another price to pay for a bushitler.  lonestarnot   Mar-10-07 05:46 AM   #88 
  - Haliburton at work again. Why was water not readily assessible  MasonJar   Mar-10-07 08:00 AM   #94 
  - My husband took it upon himself to protect his female soldiers  WakeMeUp   Mar-10-07 09:32 AM   #96 
  - Exactly, war is about having the survival mentality  jcrew2001   Mar-10-07 11:12 AM   #100 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-10-07 12:41 PM   #106 
  - boredom and not having any women around  jcrew2001   Mar-10-07 01:29 PM   #109 
  - I think bored soldiers isolated from their families  jcrew2001   Mar-10-07 04:45 PM   #114 
  - I'm a woman who "walks home by herself at night" often. In the middle of a tagged downtown.  BleedingHeartPatriot   Mar-10-07 07:08 PM   #118 
     - I know many women or girls who are  jcrew2001   Mar-11-07 09:19 PM   #121 
  - Post #101  impeachdubya   Mar-10-07 05:16 PM   #117 
     - Hear, hear!  GaYellowDawg   Mar-10-07 07:50 PM   #119 
  - Yes, the women could use a bucket or bedpan ...  JustABozoOnThisBus   Mar-10-07 01:18 PM   #107 
  - in war its about survival whether its  jcrew2001   Mar-10-07 01:32 PM   #110 
     - This just doesn't happen in war or some far off land.  gatorboy   Mar-10-07 01:36 PM   #111 
     - It happens anywhere and everywhere  jcrew2001   Mar-10-07 04:52 PM   #116 
     - Can you trust the assigned patrolmen?  JustABozoOnThisBus   Mar-10-07 02:43 PM   #112 
        - You have to trust someone and there needs to  jcrew2001   Mar-10-07 04:49 PM   #115 
  - Some of them took to using empty water bottles at night. n/t  WakeMeUp   Mar-11-07 12:10 PM   #120 
  - you mean the religiously insane bushgang gives them birth control  donsu   Mar-10-07 11:30 AM   #103 
  - bump  stonebone   Mar-10-07 11:24 AM   #102 
  - It isn't "sad," it isn't "a shame," and it can't be glibly chalked up to  kerstin   Mar-10-07 01:19 PM   #108 
  - And that's the main reason I am glad I never joined the military.  Jamastiene   Mar-11-07 09:50 PM   #122 
 

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