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83. Interesting take. That actually makes more sense than a lot of things I've read....
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  -If you are angry at John Edwards You must be angry at Elizabeth, too: cliffordu  Aug-08-08 10:11 PM   #0 
  - Yep  texastoast   Aug-08-08 10:13 PM   #1 
  - I'm mystified. I'm mystified that she would be a part of something  roguevalley   Aug-09-08 01:13 PM   #109 
  - I'm one that believes that it takes trwo  notadmblnd   Aug-08-08 10:13 PM   #2 
  - I am only going to post once on this subject.  MrsGrumpy   Aug-08-08 10:14 PM   #3 
  - I'd rate it as at least twenty cents' worth, MrsGrumpy.  crim son   Aug-08-08 10:18 PM   #15 
  - Yes.  emilyg   Aug-08-08 11:42 PM   #45 
  - How enlightened you are.  Evergreen Emerald   Aug-09-08 08:57 AM   #61 
  - I sincerely hope you posted this in the wrong place.  MrsGrumpy   Aug-09-08 11:13 AM   #93 
     - I was talking to the op  Evergreen Emerald   Aug-09-08 11:30 AM   #96 
  - Hello, MrsGrumpy!  baby_mouse   Aug-09-08 10:26 AM   #70 
  - I'm angry at idiots that want to make something out of a private matter.  hobbit709   Aug-08-08 10:14 PM   #4 
  - Absolutely. People think indignation makes them more moral.  cliffordu   Aug-08-08 10:15 PM   #6 
  - It's not indignation -- it's ANGER at being player for a sucker  katandmoon   Aug-08-08 10:17 PM   #12 
  - The REPS will be the ones expressing 'moral indignation'. nt  gateley   Aug-08-08 10:19 PM   #17 
  - Why? How?  Mandate My Ass   Aug-08-08 11:15 PM   #42 
     - It's not a matter of breaking promises.  charlyvi   Aug-09-08 12:02 PM   #97 
  - Good one, cliffordu! I'm stealing that statement, if you don't mind. nt  gateley   Aug-08-08 10:18 PM   #16 
  - Fine wit' me!!  cliffordu   Aug-08-08 10:21 PM   #20 
  - A lot of people here think a lack of indignation..  girl gone mad   Aug-08-08 10:40 PM   #27 
  - I'm not indignant. I'm hurt and disappointed.  Political Heretic   Aug-08-08 11:12 PM   #39 
  - Funny, because John Edwards was one of those Morality-Police types when it came to Bill Clinton.  Occam Bandage   Aug-08-08 10:16 PM   #9 
  - Yep.  Political Heretic   Aug-08-08 11:12 PM   #40 
  - It's not the morality, it's the hypocrisy, stupid...  MrsGrumpy   Aug-09-08 12:06 AM   #49 
  - to be fair, though,  spooky3   Aug-09-08 12:36 PM   #99 
  - Indeed!  Blue State Native   Aug-09-08 10:28 AM   #72 
  - Duping millions of people into supporting them is not a private matter. nt  Kahuna   Aug-09-08 10:55 AM   #80 
     - So, You Only Liked Him Because You Thought He Was Faithful to His Wife?  Toasterlad   Aug-10-08 12:01 AM   #122 
        - Well said.  Canuckistanian   Aug-10-08 09:27 AM   #125 
  - To an extent, I agree. They're smart enough to realize that this scandal would effectively  Occam Bandage   Aug-08-08 10:15 PM   #5 
  - Now that I think about it, I am coming to your point of view re Elizabeth.  CTyankee   Aug-09-08 09:06 AM   #62 
  - .  Lost-in-FL   Aug-08-08 10:15 PM   #7 
  - I believe you are correct. nt  jonnyblitz   Aug-08-08 10:16 PM   #8 
  - BULLFUCKINGSHIT. Not her job to out him. He wasn't man enough to come clean before he was caught.  katandmoon   Aug-08-08 10:16 PM   #10 
  - You might want to read what SHE has to say about it. I mean before you  cliffordu   Aug-08-08 10:20 PM   #18 
  - It was her job to point out to him in the beginning, that should he be nominated,  charlyvi   Aug-09-08 10:23 AM   #69 
  - So they're a normal American family.  bigwillq   Aug-08-08 10:17 PM   #11 
  - I'd like to see them left alone, too. They are fine, decent people who, above all else  cliffordu   Aug-08-08 10:25 PM   #23 
  - They're not a normal American family.  charlyvi   Aug-09-08 10:53 AM   #78 
  - sadly, I agree. nt  JoeIsOneOfUs   Aug-08-08 10:17 PM   #13 
  - Yep, you're absolutely correct  IWantAnyDem   Aug-08-08 10:18 PM   #14 
  - Ego and a desire for power  comrade snarky   Aug-09-08 12:43 PM   #101 
  - She should have convinced him not to run  dansolo   Aug-08-08 10:20 PM   #19 
  - Yup... What happens in Edwards Big House  Lost-in-FL   Aug-08-08 10:23 PM   #22 
  - Perhaps  charlyvi   Aug-09-08 10:14 AM   #66 
  - I'll flame.  jobycom   Aug-08-08 10:23 PM   #21 
  - Please see my post #23 above.  cliffordu   Aug-08-08 10:32 PM   #25 
  - Actually, no.  jobycom   Aug-08-08 10:43 PM   #31 
     - She perpetuated the lie. Condemn him, you condemn her.  cliffordu   Aug-08-08 10:47 PM   #33 
     - And that's what I'm saying is despicable.  jobycom   Aug-08-08 10:50 PM   #34 
     - Thanks!  cliffordu   Aug-08-08 10:56 PM   #35 
        - You are welcome, laughter and all. nt  jobycom   Aug-08-08 11:09 PM   #37 
     - Oh Bullshit. What 'lie' did she perpetuate?  Midlodemocrat   Aug-09-08 10:45 AM   #77 
        - Every time she went to a fundraiser and asked for funds KNOWING he would  cliffordu   Aug-09-08 10:58 AM   #82 
           - Don't agree at all.  Midlodemocrat   Aug-09-08 11:02 AM   #86 
     - Maybe the people who contributed to "their" campaigns without knowing..  Kahuna   Aug-09-08 11:00 AM   #84 
        - We have a winner! n/t  charlyvi   Aug-09-08 12:30 PM   #98 
        - Maybe so. I can't complain about how others choose candidates.  jobycom   Aug-09-08 11:36 PM   #120 
  - No. She lied to those of us who trusted her most.  JDPriestly   Aug-08-08 10:45 PM   #32 
  - How do you know she didn't tell him that?  jobycom   Aug-08-08 11:08 PM   #36 
  - I agree.  Mad_Dem_X   Aug-09-08 11:13 AM   #92 
  - I agree. (nt)  colinmom71   Aug-09-08 11:15 AM   #95 
  - What the hell does this have to do  Jakes Progress   Aug-08-08 10:27 PM   #24 
  - I really don't care. I just can't believe the level of vilification and hatred  cliffordu   Aug-08-08 10:40 PM   #28 
     - Exept that wasn't the end of it.  girl gone mad   Aug-09-08 06:33 AM   #56 
        - Golly.  Jakes Progress   Aug-09-08 08:12 AM   #60 
        - Well....  cliffordu   Aug-09-08 10:37 AM   #73 
        - Nobody's defending him.  Jakes Progress   Aug-09-08 05:16 PM   #117 
  - To me.. she's the same as Hillary.. Spitzer's wife.. etc.  RoadRage   Aug-08-08 10:36 PM   #26 
  - You are absolutely right. Neither of them told the truth,  JDPriestly   Aug-08-08 10:41 PM   #29 
  - I actually think they're impulse to continue to serve was admirable, but the  cliffordu   Aug-08-08 10:43 PM   #30 
  - I am hurt by them both.  Political Heretic   Aug-08-08 11:11 PM   #38 
  - No. You are hurt every day by a criminal GOP administration  Mandate My Ass   Aug-08-08 11:22 PM   #43 
     - I can be hurt by both.  Political Heretic   Aug-08-08 11:33 PM   #44 
  - Just like Hillary, really. She bent over backwards all those years  Laura PackYourBags   Aug-08-08 11:14 PM   #41 
  - ...for political gain. "Hillary was the one that handled the bimbo eruptions." nt  Kahuna   Aug-09-08 11:11 AM   #91 
  - Nope.  mzmolly   Aug-09-08 12:02 AM   #46 
  - Yeah, clifford, blame the spouse who was cheated on. Like it was her job to out him.  Bluebear   Aug-09-08 12:03 AM   #47 
  - My point is, and I'll speak. very. slowly.  cliffordu   Aug-09-08 12:13 AM   #51 
     - Bingo. n/t  charlyvi   Aug-09-08 10:27 AM   #71 
     - "Slime him, you slime them both." - utter nonsense from start to finish  Bluebear   Aug-09-08 02:35 PM   #112 
  - Bush should be convicted of 35+ counts of unconstitutional crime against America.  Peake   Aug-09-08 12:04 AM   #48 
  - nope just him  prayin4rain   Aug-09-08 12:11 AM   #50 
  - You people really don't get it do you.  republicansarewhores   Aug-09-08 12:26 AM   #52 
  - A-friggin-Men! nt  Kahuna   Aug-09-08 11:01 AM   #85 
  - Cheating IS bad  comrade snarky   Aug-09-08 12:57 PM   #103 
  - Maybe they thought it wasn't anybody else's business  eridani   Aug-09-08 05:40 AM   #53 
  - Yep, that's what I think.  cliffordu   Aug-09-08 10:39 AM   #74 
  - Then they were clueless about the political reality in this country.  Crunchy Frog   Aug-09-08 01:16 PM   #110 
  - It's true that she shares some responsibility, but it is very different.  TexasObserver   Aug-09-08 05:45 AM   #54 
  - I do have a couple of questions for Elizabeth  Apollo11   Aug-09-08 05:56 AM   #55 
  - BLEHHHH!  dammitann   Aug-09-08 06:37 AM   #57 
  - Hmmmmm, I wonder just how long she has known....  remember2000forever   Aug-09-08 08:06 AM   #58 
  - No flames here. That is an astute observation. She doesn't seem like a shrinking  renie408   Aug-09-08 08:11 AM   #59 
  - I think you are absolutely correct. She is NOT a shrinking violet.  cliffordu   Aug-09-08 10:42 AM   #75 
  - This is a 2 part deception, Elizabeth was the victim in the 1st part  Fla Dem   Aug-09-08 09:22 AM   #63 
  - Right. There are two separate issues at play here (as I stated on a previous thread -  Kahuna   Aug-09-08 11:09 AM   #90 
  - Message to DU: Ignore all Edwards Threads  fascisthunter   Aug-09-08 09:24 AM   #64 
  - I am. n/t  UTUSN   Aug-09-08 09:27 AM   #65 
  - I am.  LibraLiz1973   Aug-09-08 10:16 AM   #67 
  - I'm only angry at the hypocrisy. The affair is between them.  donco6   Aug-09-08 10:19 AM   #68 
  - Yep, yep and yep.  cliffordu   Aug-09-08 10:43 AM   #76 
  - They both duped Dems (except for me) into believing in them. I always  Kahuna   Aug-09-08 10:54 AM   #79 
  - Interesting take. That actually makes more sense than a lot of things I've read....  cliffordu   Aug-09-08 10:59 AM   #83 
  - SHE didnt have the affair. SHE didnt run for office. ALL on edwards shoulders  seabeyond   Aug-09-08 10:56 AM   #81 
  - She did run for office. The Edwards always presented themselves as a team.  Kahuna   Aug-09-08 11:03 AM   #87 
     - regardless of her connection to him the FACT is he ran for president  seabeyond   Aug-09-08 11:05 AM   #88 
        - Elizabeth was just as ambitious and always seemed to want it more than  Kahuna   Aug-09-08 11:07 AM   #89 
           - and edwards CHOSE to have the affair. edwards CHOSE to run for president  seabeyond   Aug-09-08 11:14 AM   #94 
              - You really think they aren't a team?  comrade snarky   Aug-09-08 01:07 PM   #107 
                 - i said nothing about innocent. i am talking about who is responsible  seabeyond   Aug-09-08 01:10 PM   #108 
                    - For the affair, yes. I agree  comrade snarky   Aug-09-08 01:44 PM   #111 
                       - i can certainly respect and understand why you feel as you do  seabeyond   Aug-09-08 02:56 PM   #113 
  - His behavior was reckless and displayed poor judgement.  Clear Blue Sky   Aug-09-08 12:42 PM   #100 
  - Don't bring a too-adult view into this, it distracts from the flaming.  cliffordu   Aug-09-08 12:46 PM   #102 
     - Indeed...  Clear Blue Sky   Aug-09-08 12:58 PM   #104 
  - Keeping silent and cheating on your wife who is fighting cancer aren't the same n/t  cynatnite   Aug-09-08 01:02 PM   #105 
  - I think both of them displayed very poor judgement in this.  Crunchy Frog   Aug-09-08 01:02 PM   #106 
  - I am not angy at her, what choice did she have?  MiltonF   Aug-09-08 03:03 PM   #114 
  - She is a strong woman in her own right.  Fla Dem   Aug-09-08 06:56 PM   #119 
  - Here's my working theory on why she's not accountable.  TexasObserver   Aug-09-08 03:08 PM   #115 
  - Okay...saying we buy that version of events.........  Fla Dem   Aug-09-08 03:54 PM   #116 
  - That could turn out to be the true turn of events. Time will tell. Something is  Kahuna   Aug-09-08 05:53 PM   #118 
     - the story is beginning to take shape  TexasObserver   Aug-10-08 09:07 AM   #123 
  - I am just angry at you for being a dumbass.  deaniac21   Aug-09-08 11:46 PM   #121 
  - Somewhat  NeedleCast   Aug-10-08 09:08 AM   #124 
  - Yup; Elizabeth, if you're reading this, you fucked up  BeyondGeography   Aug-10-08 09:38 AM   #126 

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