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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 10:56 AM
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49. And, one even more to the point.
(Music by Joan Baez, Lyrics by Nina Duscheck)

Farewell my wistful Saigon bride
I'm going out to stem the tide
A tide that never saw the seas
It flows through jungles, round the trees
Some say it's yellow, some say red
It will not matter when we're dead

How many dead men will it take
To build a dike that will not break?
How many children must we kill
Before we make the waves stand still?

Though miracles come high today
We have the wherewithal to pay
It takes them off the streets you know
To places they would never go alone
It gives them useful trades
The lucky boys are even paid

Men die to build their Pharoah's tombs
And still and still the teeming wombs
How many men to conquer Mars
How many dead to reach the stars?

Farewell my wistful Saigon bride
I'm going out to stem the tide
A tide that never saw the seas
It flows through jungles, round the trees
Some say it's yellow, some say red
It will not matter when we're dead
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  -Define 'war hero', name one, and tell why the person fits your definition Husb2Sparkly  Aug-07-08 08:42 AM   #0 
  - Is this an all-war-sucks, so-all-soldiers-do-too kind of thread?  BlooInBloo   Aug-07-08 08:44 AM   #1 
  - Doesn't look like it to me.  Smith_3   Aug-07-08 08:52 AM   #4 
  - No  Husb2Sparkly   Aug-07-08 09:01 AM   #9 
     - Ok, thanks!  BlooInBloo   Aug-07-08 09:33 AM   #30 
  - John Fitzgerald Kennedy  Philosoraptor   Aug-07-08 08:45 AM   #2 
  - Joan Baez  Hubert Flottz   Aug-07-08 08:52 AM   #3 
  - Bravo. Great post.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Aug-07-08 09:14 AM   #21 
     - Thank you,  Hubert Flottz   Aug-07-08 10:50 AM   #48 
        - And, one even more to the point.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Aug-07-08 10:56 AM   #49 
           - And then there's  Hubert Flottz   Aug-07-08 11:09 AM   #54 
  - A guy who can not only crash multiple planes but intercept a surface to air projectile  stellanoir   Aug-07-08 08:54 AM   #5 
  - Since I'm an Air Force wife--Jason Cunningham:  wienerdoggie   Aug-07-08 08:55 AM   #6 
  - Excellent reminder - there are certainly other onsung heroes like him as well  dmordue   Aug-07-08 09:37 AM   #34 
  - War Hero  bpj62   Aug-07-08 08:56 AM   #7 
  - Tom Bennett (friend of my sister's),  Staph   Aug-07-08 09:00 AM   #8 
  - John Ripley, Vietnam, the bridge at Dong Ha. William Dabney, Vietnam, Hill 881 south. nt.  IndianaJones   Aug-07-08 09:03 AM   #10 
  - How about Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus?  sofa king   Aug-07-08 09:04 AM   #11 
  - Also, Stanislav Petrov.  sofa king   Aug-07-08 09:20 AM   # 
  - Wow, I'd never heard that story  Lydia Leftcoast   Aug-07-08 09:36 AM   #32 
  - Crazy, huh?  sofa king   Aug-07-08 10:23 AM   #38 
     - How much more heroic does it get than saving the human race?  Lydia Leftcoast   Aug-07-08 05:12 PM   #68 
  - Great choice.  cobalt1999   Aug-07-08 08:50 PM   #75 
  - A nameless Spartan  sofa king   Aug-07-08 09:54 AM   #37 
  - Warrant Officer Hugh Thompson Jr.  Lydia Leftcoast   Aug-07-08 09:04 AM   #12 
  - D'OH! You beat me by three minutes, as I was editing my post!  bullwinkle428   Aug-07-08 09:08 AM   #17 
  - You know, I deliberately left out humantarian concern for the innocent among one's non-countrymen...  Orsino   Aug-07-08 09:12 AM   #19 
  - Alright I'll try...  Mr_Jefferson_24   Aug-07-08 09:05 AM   #13 
  - From the Vietnam War, U.S. Army helicopter pilot Hugh Thompson, Jr.  bullwinkle428   Aug-07-08 09:07 AM   #14 
  - YOU WIN!  Toucano   Aug-07-08 11:08 AM   #53 
  - George McGovern  edhopper   Aug-07-08 09:07 AM   #15 
  - alvin york....  islandmkl   Aug-07-08 09:08 AM   #16 
  - yep  baldguy   Aug-07-08 08:48 PM   #74 
  - Someone who risks life and/or limb to a much greater extent than the norm...  Orsino   Aug-07-08 09:09 AM   #18 
  - Lt. Col. Anthony Herbert, Vietnam War  DailyGrind51   Aug-07-08 09:14 AM   #20 
  - My father carried a wounded kid across enemy lines during WW2  Generic Other   Aug-07-08 09:15 AM   #22 
  - Mohammad Ali. As a conscientious objector he risked going to prison than to serve in Vietnam.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Aug-07-08 09:15 AM   #23 
  - after some reflection:  islandmkl   Aug-07-08 09:18 AM   #24 
  - There are no such things as 'heroes', To believe in such things, is to give into primitive thought.  arcadian   Aug-07-08 09:19 AM   #25 
  - and no good or bad people - Would you really sacrifice your life for a stranger  dmordue   Aug-07-08 09:39 AM   #35 
  - there is no such thing as life. even if there was, there are many here among us  Gabi Hayes   Aug-07-08 10:35 AM   #41 
  - The potential is there, but how many utilize it?  Kajsa   Aug-07-08 10:45 AM   #47 
  - strip off all your clothes and what is left is an ape.  alfredo   Aug-07-08 11:01 AM   #51 
  - All the people who refuse to participate in the insanity of war.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Aug-07-08 09:20 AM   #26 
  - thank you....all those who went to prison, rather than support our illegal war in Vietnam, just  Gabi Hayes   Aug-07-08 10:39 AM   #44 
  - my father: fought the germans, rose from a 21 year old private to platoon sergeant  Gabi Hayes   Aug-07-08 09:21 AM   #27 
  - John Kerry  Marnieworld   Aug-07-08 09:22 AM   #28 
  - yup. He showed courage in three ways  MBS   Aug-07-08 11:11 AM   #55 
  - SSG Roy P. Benavidez, 5th Special Forces Group.  old mark   Aug-07-08 09:24 AM   #29 
  - Audie Murphy.  NCevilDUer   Aug-07-08 09:35 AM   #31 
  - I wish we could quit glorifying it over any other type of hero  treestar   Aug-07-08 09:37 AM   #33 
  - or minimize it over a non-military courageous or sacrificial act?  dmordue   Aug-07-08 09:41 AM   #36 
  - George Washington, William Wallace, Leonidas and ?  endthewar   Aug-07-08 10:27 AM   #39 
  - Daniel Ken Inouye  OmahaBlueDog   Aug-07-08 10:30 AM   #40 
  - Romeo Dallaire...  SidDithers   Aug-07-08 10:37 AM   #42 
  - not 'war' in the conventional sense, but war in the sense that his government waged war on its  Gabi Hayes   Aug-07-08 10:38 AM   #43 
  - Both of my grandfathers.  sparosnare   Aug-07-08 10:43 AM   #45 
  - Colonel Lewis (blood and guts) Millett  alfredo   Aug-07-08 10:44 AM   #46 
  - Corporal Lewis K. Bausell  KansDem   Aug-07-08 10:57 AM   #50 
  - George W. Bush. he kept us safe from  Gabi Hayes   Aug-07-08 11:02 AM   #52 
  - A couple more  Hangingon   Aug-07-08 11:11 AM   #56 
  - Smedley Darlington Butler  otherlander   Aug-07-08 11:58 AM   #57 
  - Daniel Ellsberg  dixiegrrrrl   Aug-07-08 12:27 PM   #58 
  - Robert Gould Shaw  bdab1973   Aug-07-08 12:42 PM   #59 
  - Gen. Wesley K. Clark  Clark2008   Aug-07-08 12:47 PM   #60 
  - Michael Monsoor  Mudoria   Aug-07-08 01:49 PM   #61 
  - Yep. General Clark is one.  cliffordu   Aug-07-08 08:46 PM   #73 
  - Admiral James Stockdale.  ColbertWatcher   Aug-07-08 01:55 PM   #62 
  - First Lieutenant Ehren Watada.  ColbertWatcher   Aug-07-08 02:03 PM   #63 
  - My Grandpa  mtnester   Aug-07-08 02:25 PM   #64 
  - John Levitow ... I personally saw it happen on February 24, 1969 ... right above my position.  TahitiNut   Aug-07-08 02:30 PM   #65 
  - You've posted this before.  Husb2Sparkly   Aug-07-08 05:19 PM   #69 
  - These guys are war heroes:  LWolf   Aug-07-08 02:30 PM   #66 
  - Edward 'Weary' Dunlop  canetoad   Aug-07-08 02:36 PM   #67 
  - Senator John Kerry  wisteria   Aug-07-08 08:30 PM   #70 
  - Kazimierz Pulaski  datasuspect   Aug-07-08 08:34 PM   #71 
  - My grandpa, in WWII.  blonndee   Aug-07-08 08:45 PM   #72 
  - George Washington, hands down.  muddleofpudd   Aug-07-08 09:53 PM   #76 

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