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Mon Aug-04-08 09:26 AM
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| 10. Duley is a social worker who simply organized and conducted |
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group sessions. She was a recent grad with very little experience and money problems. She has had problems with drinking and driving, so much so that she has been arrested for it several times. She is a perfect candidate for manipulation.
And this social worker, who calls herself a therapist, is claiming that an award winning scientist, who has never been arrested for anything, who undoubtedly has at least a Top Secret clearance, is a homicidal danger and has been since grad school. He has been described as mild mannered and kind. Not such a convenient scapegoat but he will have to do because Hatfill filed a lawsuit.
I couldn't write a better espionage story.
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| -"Whole Load Of Crap"-Larisa Alexandrovna Has Low Down On "Therapist" To The Anthrax Suspect |
kpete |
Aug-04-08 08:48 AM |
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Drug and Alcohol "theripist" (sic) with several recent DUIs... |
Junkdrawer |
Aug-04-08 08:51 AM |
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How could she know he was gonna be charged before the grand jury |
Heidi |
Aug-04-08 08:58 AM |
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Apparently all of his neighbors knew that he was being watched. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Aug-04-08 09:40 AM |
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Just curios; By what stretch would she have access to or know any of his neighbors. nt |
ooglymoogly |
Aug-04-08 09:01 PM |
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It sounds like somebody told her that the grand jury would indict him....interesting. |
yardwork |
Aug-04-08 10:57 AM |
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Her "source" may have been FBI agents who interviewed her. |
leveymg |
Aug-04-08 01:33 PM |
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Exactly. Just as they probably told her that their doctors had |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-04-08 01:44 PM |
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Yup. The only question is, why are they moving this case now? Leahy? |
leveymg |
Aug-04-08 01:54 PM |
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Well, if what you want is to slow down Democrats |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-04-08 02:02 PM |
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It doesn't make sense for BushCo to stir up this shitstorm, now. |
leveymg |
Aug-04-08 02:12 PM |
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FBI removed contents of Ivins' lab freezer in June. |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-04-08 02:40 PM |
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Should combine timelines for Hatfill, Ivins, Kelly others who worked on US-UK "Iraq WMD" projects |
leveymg |
Aug-04-08 03:13 PM |
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We might check Paul Thompson's History Commons. |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-04-08 03:23 PM |
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Please post what you find. |
leveymg |
Aug-04-08 03:38 PM |
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This is the first I've seen of Ivins being involved with the CIA.... |
AntiFascist |
Aug-04-08 04:57 PM |
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Correction: |
leveymg |
Aug-05-08 07:22 AM |
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The statement , "It' doesn't make sense" is all you have to |
MadMaddie |
Aug-04-08 07:07 PM |
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The FBI has been dragging its feet on this case because... |
AntiFascist |
Aug-05-08 04:49 AM |
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Yous guys really oughta get paid for this |
libnnc |
Aug-04-08 09:01 AM |
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clearly, she is a useful idiot, being used |
TexasObserver |
Aug-04-08 09:02 AM |
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This whole thing is beginning to smell worse and worse |
SpiralHawk |
Aug-04-08 09:04 AM |
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Thank you Larisa for being a real journalist |
Rosie1223 |
Aug-04-08 09:05 AM |
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Wouldn't you love to see Larisa get the Pulitzer for her excellent investigative journalism, |
tblue37 |
Aug-04-08 12:03 PM |
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Totally amazing work - rather than a Pulitzer, I'd like to see some heads roll... |
file83 |
Aug-05-08 01:25 AM |
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What a witness. |
screembloodymurder |
Aug-04-08 09:08 AM |
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based on her 'testimony' -- might she deserve 'witness protection' so there is no follow-up now that |
Supersedeas |
Aug-04-08 01:02 PM |
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Yeah, I'd say in the Maryland mountains... |
liam_laddie |
Aug-04-08 01:57 PM |
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If the threats she claimed Ivins made in a group therapy session |
suffragette |
Aug-04-08 09:15 AM |
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It's real easy to remember how to spell it. The Rapist = therapist. |
Wizard777 |
Aug-04-08 09:15 AM |
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Duley is a social worker who simply organized and conducted |
fasttense |
Aug-04-08 09:26 AM |
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Again, I cant wait to see the movie! |
sheeptramp |
Aug-04-08 10:19 AM |
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Someone who is so easily manipulated probably shouldn't be runnin |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-04-08 11:29 AM |
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I really think we need to close this case quickly. Like, NOW! |
BushDespiser12 |
Aug-04-08 09:26 AM |
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Larisa's at-largely article prior to this one mentioned locations |
EVDebs |
Aug-04-08 09:52 AM |
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Does KO know about this? |
GreenPartyVoter |
Aug-04-08 09:56 AM |
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In the words of Dr. Thompson: "Strange tales from strange times." |
DemoTex |
Aug-04-08 10:06 AM |
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Deffinitely requires another K&R n/t |
JohnyCanuck |
Aug-04-08 10:08 AM |
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Did you see this post? |
itsjustme |
Aug-04-08 10:24 AM |
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"They offered his son $2.5 M and a sportscar if he would "rat" on his father." |
sheeptramp |
Aug-04-08 10:35 AM |
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Exactly |
itsjustme |
Aug-04-08 10:38 AM |
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Gerry Higgins.. |
undergroundpanther |
Aug-05-08 01:01 AM |
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I found a Gerry Higgins in Silver Spring Maryland |
itsjustme |
Aug-04-08 10:57 AM |
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Imagine what the FBI promised the "estranged" brother --- !!! |
defendandprotect |
Aug-04-08 02:37 PM |
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Is that real? |
SpookyCat |
Aug-04-08 03:10 PM |
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Sickening, isn't it? Deliberate mental torture. |
Raksha |
Aug-04-08 04:49 PM |
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Remember Gonzales tracked down Ashcroft in his hospital bed---!!! |
defendandprotect |
Aug-05-08 01:59 PM |
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Do you have a link to the Gerry Higgins post? |
Kaleko |
Aug-04-08 08:30 PM |
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is she a licensed theripist (sic)? i don't think they teach that |
ellenfl |
Aug-04-08 10:27 AM |
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No, she's not. She earned a certificate to do drug counseling. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-04-08 10:40 AM |
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Since many states privatized mental health care, almost anyone can earn such certificates. |
yardwork |
Aug-04-08 11:03 AM |
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I was surprised at how easy it is to get one here. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-04-08 11:27 AM |
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Yes. This woman is no expert. She sounds unstable. |
yardwork |
Aug-04-08 11:29 AM |
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It's freaky to me that no one questioned her allegations. |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-04-08 11:30 AM |
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I wouldn't have expected the press to question her allegations! |
yardwork |
Aug-04-08 01:41 PM |
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But, the judge didn't either at that hearing! |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-04-08 01:46 PM |
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Good point. |
yardwork |
Aug-04-08 01:51 PM |
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I have known quite a few |
undergroundpanther |
Aug-05-08 01:16 AM |
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Thereipey, Fineanchill advizsing, counsilling |
panzerfaust |
Aug-04-08 06:36 PM |
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Enemy Combatant |
Bjarne Riis |
Aug-04-08 10:28 AM |
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Nah, they only do that to "brown" people |
VWolf |
Aug-04-08 02:11 PM |
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The stakes are too high here |
Wednesdays |
Aug-04-08 02:48 PM |
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Wow! We need to keep this kicked. K & R n/t |
chill_wind |
Aug-04-08 10:42 AM |
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Anthrax suspect’s colleague blames FBI for suicide |
sattahipdeep |
Aug-04-08 10:47 AM |
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Were $$ offered to his kid? |
itsjustme |
Aug-04-08 11:08 AM |
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Get this.... |
sattahipdeep |
Aug-04-08 11:27 AM |
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Public computers that anyone could use? |
MetaTrope |
Aug-04-08 11:36 AM |
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Whos button did Ivins push. bubonic plague? |
sattahipdeep |
Aug-04-08 12:26 PM |
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Re the MSNBC article |
defendandprotect |
Aug-04-08 02:48 PM |
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Very courageous of Byrnes to speak out --- I'm sure they all feel threatened . . . |
defendandprotect |
Aug-04-08 02:56 PM |
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Keep digging. |
cat_girl25 |
Aug-04-08 11:40 AM |
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Someone should send this thread to Kieth Olbermann! |
B Calm |
Aug-04-08 11:44 AM |
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The "NUT" Here Clearly IS NOT Ivins... But DULEY! |
DaLittle Kitty |
Aug-04-08 11:49 AM |
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K&R n/t |
Dogtown |
Aug-04-08 12:12 PM |
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it is a whole load of crap....bush/cheney are the perps |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Aug-04-08 12:12 PM |
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Yum. This is like eating cotton candy in my brain. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Aug-04-08 12:40 PM |
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k&r • Did you see the hand writing on the restraining order request |
FraDon |
Aug-04-08 12:42 PM |
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Irreconcilable differences. |
leveymg |
Aug-04-08 01:37 PM |
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maybe she was in a similar state of mind when she allegedly attacked her husband |
Supersedeas |
Aug-04-08 09:19 PM |
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IMHO, this is a really amateurish cover-up |
caseymoz |
Aug-04-08 12:51 PM |
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Newspapers are going because no one is reading them -- TV is next . . . !!! |
defendandprotect |
Aug-04-08 03:00 PM |
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K&R There are way too many "suicides" connected to |
Jesuswasntafascist |
Aug-04-08 12:55 PM |
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Wow. |
redqueen |
Aug-04-08 01:10 PM |
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Anybody else notice what she put down as her "race"? |
LiberalHeart |
Aug-04-08 01:32 PM |
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Here's her photo, a typical "white asiatic indian arab" person. Sure. |
Julius Civitatus |
Aug-04-08 03:17 PM |
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au contraire |
panzerfaust |
Aug-04-08 06:30 PM |
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BSW? |
ekwhite |
Aug-04-08 11:34 PM |
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sounds like she was trying to push all kinds of buttons |
Supersedeas |
Aug-04-08 03:32 PM |
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This is a white-hot investigation by Larisa! Go lady GO! |
Poll_Blind |
Aug-04-08 02:11 PM |
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Grand jury testimony from August 1? What grand jury? |
robertpaulsen |
Aug-04-08 02:16 PM |
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Thoughts - she's incompetent and ripe for manipulation - the perfect patsy. |
tinrobot |
Aug-04-08 03:28 PM |
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I don't think she's in hiding from the press. |
Raksha |
Aug-04-08 04:55 PM |
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nice job Larisa, kpete, smoking gun, etc. |
orleans |
Aug-04-08 03:53 PM |
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Easy money bet: a close family member or friend of hers is with The Company. |
sofa king |
Aug-04-08 04:01 PM |
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Do you think so? She just sounds young and easy and stupid.n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-04-08 05:32 PM |
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I have been subpoena to testify |
Rex |
Aug-04-08 04:07 PM |
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May she's been ... |
Everybody |
Aug-04-08 04:13 PM |
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Either that or she's afraid of being disappeared. |
Raksha |
Aug-04-08 05:02 PM |
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She's the weak link now |
MetaTrope |
Aug-04-08 11:37 PM |
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The brother's interview |
PATRICK |
Aug-04-08 04:50 PM |
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Of course Daschle isn't buying it. If this is a cover-up, |
Raksha |
Aug-04-08 05:31 PM |
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The brother's interview |
MetaTrope |
Aug-05-08 11:34 AM |
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K&R, Duley is clearly being propped up and supported to feed the media... |
AntiFascist |
Aug-04-08 05:03 PM |
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they want to close the case - sounds like crap to me - lot more behind this but |
28erl |
Aug-04-08 06:18 PM |
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As a doctor ... |
panzerfaust |
Aug-04-08 06:20 PM |
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Heard her statement on CNN yesterday and wondered |
Imalittleteapot |
Aug-04-08 06:29 PM |
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Maybe the author of the note is actually in the legal profession? |
Uncle Joe |
Aug-04-08 07:01 PM |
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A crock of crapola to cover Ivins being "suicided". |
BrklynLiberal |
Aug-04-08 08:25 PM |
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Regarding the Therapists Spellings...... |
gutterpunk |
Aug-04-08 08:52 PM |
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Why did she lose her job and HOW THE HELL is she "paying for attorneys"? |
sicksicksick_N_tired |
Aug-04-08 09:01 PM |
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She's had three DUIs in the last several years. Maybe |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-05-08 01:09 AM |
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Do we have any testimonials about Ivins other than this woman and the |
ooglymoogly |
Aug-04-08 09:09 PM |
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read the "progress" of this |
azurnoir |
Aug-04-08 10:12 PM |
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Irwin was committed to the psych ward because he was |
Ima Misfit |
Aug-04-08 10:20 PM |
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Sheppard pratt??!! OMG that explains alot. |
undergroundpanther |
Aug-04-08 11:05 PM |
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If I was a conspiracy theorist |
ekwhite |
Aug-04-08 11:14 PM |
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"the anthrax attacks right after 9/11 were mighty convenient" |
JohnyCanuck |
Aug-05-08 03:00 PM |
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This occurred after 9-11, "they" closed the books on that and the only thing remaining was |
Imagevision |
Aug-04-08 11:43 PM |
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WSJ article: "Bruce Ivins Wasn't the Anthrax Culprit" |
Julius Civitatus |
Aug-04-08 11:53 PM |
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This needs tobe an original post. nt |
ooglymoogly |
Aug-05-08 02:41 PM |
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kr |
Progs Rock |
Aug-05-08 02:44 AM |
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What Ever Happened To Patient/Client Priviledge? |
DallasNE |
Aug-05-08 07:47 AM |
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I thought this woman's story sounded WAY too convenient from Day 1. |
Brotherjohn |
Aug-05-08 08:01 AM |
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You have done it again Kpete |
zeemike |
Aug-05-08 02:48 PM |
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Jean C. Duley is going to end up... |
nikto |
Aug-05-08 11:34 PM |
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