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Mon Aug-04-08 08:07 PM
Response to Reply #14 |
| 95. no she's not a judge, she's a counselor and Ivins was in group sessions |
| -So the guy threatening her is dead but now she's hiding out. |
autorank |
Aug-03-08 01:09 PM |
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Good point. |
cat_girl25 |
Aug-03-08 01:13 PM |
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Right. This one's strange. Too many ?s out of the gate. |
autorank |
Aug-03-08 01:15 PM |
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Maybe she is the one with the psych problem. |
JDPriestly |
Aug-03-08 01:26 PM |
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I can't talk about it but that's one hell of an interesting angle. |
autorank |
Aug-03-08 01:32 PM |
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Ahoy! Love the Jolly Roger, shipmate! I'd assumed she was scared of the |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Aug-03-08 02:26 PM |
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She's the vehicle to tag Ivins as "crazy" |
autorank |
Aug-03-08 03:34 PM |
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Ahoy, there, Capting! You put it in a nutshell, by the sound of it. It's all gone pear-shaped on |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Aug-03-08 04:13 PM |
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What dates were your ancestors doing this "roving" about |
autorank |
Aug-03-08 11:09 PM |
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Philip Wynter, owner of the privateer "Industrie" of Jersey lived between |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Aug-04-08 05:43 PM |
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Here's an excerpt from the famous Lloyds marine insurance form, which |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Aug-05-08 06:21 AM |
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Avast there, Capting! Hoist the mains'l. I've just bought the book, and I'm intrigued by that |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Aug-05-08 09:57 AM |
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"Smirk. Sneer. Smirk." - Da Rover (R) |
SpiralHawk |
Aug-04-08 01:08 PM |
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Agree --- |
defendandprotect |
Aug-03-08 10:36 PM |
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Ivin's letters to the editor |
Marie26 |
Aug-04-08 11:07 AM |
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Maybe she's paranoid because she tried to tell the authorities earlier, |
The Backlash Cometh |
Aug-03-08 03:51 PM |
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It may be more simple than that. It may be that someone |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-03-08 01:42 PM |
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according to Gerald Posner on Olbermann tonight, she had a drug problem as late as '07, yet |
wordpix |
Aug-04-08 08:09 PM |
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This is the kind of behavior |
SheilaT |
Aug-03-08 01:40 PM |
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Credibility check: spent her savings on attorneys??? She just filed for a protective order a week |
Supersedeas |
Aug-03-08 01:45 PM |
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Not only that, but she is a social worker. |
TomInTib |
Aug-03-08 01:58 PM |
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She has four years of college and a certificate, no MA in Social Work. |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-03-08 02:24 PM |
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It isn't even clear how long she's been a social worker |
starroute |
Aug-03-08 04:00 PM |
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Yep. And she isn't a certified Social Worker. |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-03-08 04:03 PM |
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Bingo |
autorank |
Aug-03-08 03:39 PM |
#26 |
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See post #52 |
gatorboy |
Aug-03-08 06:30 PM |
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"the kind of damage Dr. Ivins is capable of." So, she had first hand knowledge of the kind of damage |
Supersedeas |
Aug-03-08 01:54 PM |
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Or, maybe, she's hiding out from the "Enquiring minds want to know" press. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Aug-03-08 01:58 PM |
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Too wierd to be believable. |
TahitiNut |
Aug-03-08 01:59 PM |
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Maybe FBI profilers/shrinks told her that. n/t |
LiberalHeart |
Aug-03-08 02:05 PM |
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Her handwriting on that order of restraint was enough to make anyone |
KoKo01 |
Aug-03-08 02:08 PM |
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Most revealing is spelling "theripist" (sic) |
TahitiNut |
Aug-03-08 02:48 PM |
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Do you have a link to the handwriting people are referring to on either this |
lonestarnot |
Aug-03-08 02:56 PM |
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Here's the link to my post showing photos of Duley's petition: |
Kaleko |
Aug-03-08 04:01 PM |
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Thanks Kaleco. |
lonestarnot |
Aug-03-08 08:47 PM |
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Apparently she is a Judge too -- as she has the sociopath/homocidal foundation IN EVIDENCE |
Supersedeas |
Aug-03-08 02:08 PM |
#14 |
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no she's not a judge, she's a counselor and Ivins was in group sessions |
wordpix |
Aug-04-08 08:07 PM |
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Isn't that another video tape diagnosis like the cat killer's? |
lonestarnot |
Aug-03-08 02:54 PM |
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If it's true he was diagnosed as a socipathic homicidal killer |
magellan |
Aug-03-08 03:05 PM |
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This is the elephant in the corner |
autorank |
Aug-03-08 03:51 PM |
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Who are those "top" shrinks and where are they? |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-03-08 04:52 PM |
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Probably FBI, but no they're not named |
magellan |
Aug-03-08 05:01 PM |
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Ivins can't have been DX'd by an FBI shrink |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-03-08 05:02 PM |
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Sorry |
magellan |
Aug-03-08 05:19 PM |
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Sorry. No FBI personnel treated Ivins. |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-03-08 05:22 PM |
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Thanks |
magellan |
Aug-03-08 05:36 PM |
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I have a real problem with him being described that way |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-03-08 05:40 PM |
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I almost said as much |
magellan |
Aug-03-08 05:53 PM |
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Our press sure isn't, is it? |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-03-08 05:56 PM |
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good question and an important timeline from Gerald Posner on Olbernann tonight: |
wordpix |
Aug-04-08 08:06 PM |
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Thank you for that |
magellan |
Aug-05-08 12:31 AM |
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the Bush hand that does not know what the other Bush hand is doing |
Supersedeas |
Aug-05-08 01:48 PM |
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ThatiNut, here are her creds - entry level therapist |
autorank |
Aug-03-08 03:41 PM |
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Yup... saw that after my post above. (I have a friend doing that.) |
TahitiNut |
Aug-03-08 04:33 PM |
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And no one at that hearing asked her to clarify anything. |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-03-08 04:35 PM |
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It's REALLY fishy. Far too many unanswered questions and bizarre claims. |
TahitiNut |
Aug-03-08 04:41 PM |
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I can understand if the court and her attorney settled beforehand |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-03-08 04:47 PM |
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Or a gullible stooge with a script. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-03-08 03:44 PM |
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Laying low while the case is closed...probably on the advice of the FBI... |
Junkdrawer |
Aug-03-08 02:57 PM |
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Hammer meet nail |
suffragette |
Aug-03-08 03:17 PM |
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Her entire story is crap and makes absolutely no sense. I have worked with |
pdxmom |
Aug-03-08 02:58 PM |
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None of those questions were asked in that hearing. |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-03-08 03:43 PM |
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She does seem a bit unstable and that is why her upcoming suicide will be credible |
mitchum |
Aug-03-08 03:27 PM |
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Doncha think Mukasey's star witness is in safe-keeping, complete with all the Manchurian |
Supersedeas |
Aug-03-08 05:27 PM |
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"Jean is currently at an undisclosed location" |
MilesColtrane |
Aug-03-08 04:38 PM |
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autorank, you need to find out who hospitalized Ivins. |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-03-08 05:20 PM |
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Good point. And the MD's affiliations. |
autorank |
Aug-03-08 08:51 PM |
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God like was a comment by one of his relatives who hasn't seen him |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-03-08 09:53 PM |
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Ivins also has a brother who he's "estranged" from for decades . . . |
defendandprotect |
Aug-03-08 10:47 PM |
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Really. Isn't that something. |
autorank |
Aug-03-08 10:54 PM |
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You know what's weirdest to me? How many 62 year olds |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-03-08 11:03 PM |
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I heard the estranged brother interviewed on NPR |
kwassa |
Aug-05-08 10:13 AM |
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I think I heard on the audio that since Ivins went voluntary |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-03-08 10:11 PM |
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Dr. Irwin? |
Marie26 |
Aug-03-08 09:34 PM |
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Do you remember where you read that, Marie26? |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-03-08 10:26 PM |
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It was in Duley's petition |
Marie26 |
Aug-03-08 10:32 PM |
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"Dr. Irwin completed his residencies at Army facilities & might be associated w/Ft. Detrick |
defendandprotect |
Aug-03-08 10:51 PM |
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Thank you! I wonder if there's a way to find out if a doc |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-03-08 11:10 PM |
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Not sure |
Marie26 |
Aug-04-08 11:27 AM |
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I wonder if he is. Duley said that Ivins was diagnosed by |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-04-08 11:56 AM |
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Looks like it! |
Marie26 |
Aug-05-08 01:10 PM |
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Thanks so much |
autorank |
Aug-03-08 10:56 PM |
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I keep thinking of the very deep fund of shrinks and psychologists |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-03-08 11:05 PM |
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There's the good APA-psychiatrists and the not good APA-psychologists |
autorank |
Aug-04-08 04:06 AM |
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The convention was here. And one of the most vigorous |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-04-08 10:02 AM |
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Haven't come upon that info . . . . |
defendandprotect |
Aug-03-08 10:46 PM |
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Quit her job? Must not have been that long ago. She gave an interview around june 29 it seems. |
gatorboy |
Aug-03-08 05:59 PM |
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Maybe to creat distance from her supervisor (a psychiatrist, probably) or the |
autorank |
Aug-03-08 08:43 PM |
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this whole story has the smell of manure |
spanone |
Aug-03-08 06:15 PM |
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She sacrificed? |
screembloodymurder |
Aug-03-08 06:18 PM |
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and yet the GoP Controlled Media paints a picture of a cut and dry case--waiting for dry Mukasey |
Supersedeas |
Aug-03-08 09:46 PM |
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Makes no sense, doesn't it |
suffragette |
Aug-03-08 10:25 PM |
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Maybe |
Marie26 |
Aug-03-08 10:38 PM |
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The point is they can say anything now because he's dead . . . |
defendandprotect |
Aug-03-08 10:56 PM |
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True |
Marie26 |
Aug-04-08 08:00 AM |
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Ivins signed himself into the hospital -- |
defendandprotect |
Aug-04-08 12:36 PM |
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There's no way to know for sure |
Marie26 |
Aug-04-08 05:26 PM |
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It was mentioned in the audio of Duley's hearing. |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-04-08 05:46 PM |
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On attorney's advice. |
Marie26 |
Aug-05-08 01:22 PM |
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There is probably a schedule mandated by law |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-05-08 01:40 PM |
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The brother is the one that sounds like he was the problem. |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-04-08 01:00 PM |
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One wonders if the brother took the FBI up on the offer they'd made to Ivins' kids |
MetaTrope |
Aug-05-08 01:27 PM |
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It's strange |
Marie26 |
Aug-05-08 01:30 PM |
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Maybe he did but, it sure isn't for any of the reasons that we've been told. |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-05-08 03:23 PM |
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dupe.nt |
Marie26 |
Aug-05-08 01:30 PM |
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Huh. |
AzDar |
Aug-03-08 10:53 PM |
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Glen Greenwald confirms Duley has had 3 DUI convictions |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-04-08 10:34 AM |
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"at an undisclosed location" and 3 DUI convictions? |
MilesColtrane |
Aug-04-08 12:54 PM |
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Curiouser and curiouser... |
MadrasT |
Aug-04-08 01:54 PM |
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Maybe she's hanging out with Amanda Keller, the girlfriend of that hijacker on 9-11 |
EVDebs |
Aug-05-08 01:02 PM |
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wonder if we will ever learn the name of the attorneys who took her money |
Supersedeas |
Aug-05-08 05:59 PM |
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she helped with the 1st suicide op, now she's trying to avoid being #2 |
NightWatcher |
Aug-05-08 06:01 PM |
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'This is different:' Son of scientist who died in 1953 compares cases then and now |
HillbillyBob |
Aug-06-08 12:38 PM |
#112 |
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'This is different:' Son of scientist who died in 1953 compares cases then and now |
HillbillyBob |
Aug-06-08 12:42 PM |
#113 |
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