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Fri Aug-01-08 04:28 PM
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| 12. Wel, He put quite a bit inside whales too... |
| -Oil companies already have 68 million arces of public lands they haven't even drilled on. |
redqueen |
Aug-01-08 04:13 PM |
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Honey, we are just a primitive species |
texastoast |
Aug-01-08 04:19 PM |
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Guess this is just another route the stupid in this country is going to take us down |
magellan |
Aug-01-08 04:20 PM |
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The only people who buy the "liberal media" crap are those compared to whom it IS liberal. |
nomorenomore08 |
Aug-01-08 04:20 PM |
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Please don't think I am defending oil companies, but you can't just pick an acre at random, |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-01-08 04:21 PM |
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Aug-01-08 04:22 PM |
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Thank you! I certainly hope to. |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-01-08 04:27 PM |
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If God wants us to have it, it will be there. n/t |
magellan |
Aug-01-08 04:23 PM |
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Wel, He put quite a bit inside whales too... |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-01-08 04:28 PM |
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There IS oil in some of that acreage, but it's not economic to extract it |
Dreamer Tatum |
Aug-01-08 04:25 PM |
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Yes. If it takes 1.2 bbls to raise 1.1 bbl, it's probably not the most brilliant thing |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-01-08 04:29 PM |
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Well, don't they want to pick some place off shore and basically drill at random? Also, it |
EV_Ares |
Aug-01-08 04:39 PM |
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Well, drilling "at random" is pretty much what Dubya did with 4 different companies... |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-01-08 04:46 PM |
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Yes which is what I am saying; they have all these thousands of acres they can look at first, |
EV_Ares |
Aug-01-08 04:48 PM |
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Well, it depends on what you mean by "use" them! If there's no oil or gas |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-01-08 04:56 PM |
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Then why are they leasing it? |
ThoughtCriminal |
Aug-01-08 04:44 PM |
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A lot of property is leased for something like a dollar per acre per year. |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-01-08 04:50 PM |
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Maybe not but they have all those thousands of acres leased for drilling so they can go ahead and |
EV_Ares |
Aug-01-08 05:10 PM |
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Not sure what you mean "lose it"...you mean forfeit the leases? If they do that, someone ELSE will |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-01-08 05:13 PM |
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I am talking about what Pelosi and several other dem leaders said. They are leasing this land |
EV_Ares |
Aug-01-08 05:21 PM |
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I guess I'll just have to risk being called a freeper troll but how is this any different |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-01-08 05:47 PM |
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Just because investment and speculation are not inherently evil... |
BalancedGoat |
Aug-01-08 06:36 PM |
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So you want someone to extract the energy...on public land...including the Alaska wilderness? |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-01-08 06:42 PM |
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Edited. |
BalancedGoat |
Aug-01-08 06:50 PM |
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No problem, I AGREE. They SHOULD drill in those areas as you suggest! |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-01-08 06:52 PM |
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Who said we were fighting? |
BalancedGoat |
Aug-01-08 07:08 PM |
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It order to keep the leases the law would require "diligent development" |
BalancedGoat |
Aug-01-08 06:32 PM |
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Okay, fine...your proposal will have to be a little more specific: |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-01-08 06:40 PM |
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It's not my proposal. |
BalancedGoat |
Aug-01-08 07:00 PM |
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Oh, I realize that, but you were seeming to defend those provisions and you didn't address my |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-01-08 07:08 PM |
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I don't know the specifics. |
BalancedGoat |
Aug-01-08 07:21 PM |
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Turns out the legislation wouldn't define "diligent development". |
BalancedGoat |
Aug-01-08 07:29 PM |
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Well, aside from the impossibilit;y of defining "diligent development" |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-01-08 07:40 PM |
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The specifics would have to be hammered out. |
BalancedGoat |
Aug-01-08 08:01 PM |
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It's hard for me to discuss this wit;hout seeming to be an apologist for energy crooks! |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-01-08 08:15 PM |
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I tried to pare down the question so it was easy to answer. |
BalancedGoat |
Aug-01-08 09:34 PM |
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Good question which is what I am talking about in another post. Besides how can you believe |
EV_Ares |
Aug-01-08 04:50 PM |
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Anyone who believes them or their shills is an idiot. (nt) |
redqueen |
Aug-01-08 04:55 PM |
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No, but you might be able to sucker some chump into thinking there's something in that hole, |
fla nocount |
Aug-01-08 07:48 PM |
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I wonder how many Iraqi's have something in common with my Grandma, or will. n/t |
fla nocount |
Aug-01-08 10:33 PM |
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Oh I know! The poor oil companies have only 68,000.000 acres available ! |
Overseas |
Aug-02-08 01:10 PM |
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I think big oil is sitting on that land to |
blues90 |
Aug-01-08 04:22 PM |
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I think so too. But little do they know how little land it would take to supply all our electricity. |
nomorenomore08 |
Aug-01-08 04:25 PM |
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Just how would that power be transmitted to where people live? |
bamalib |
Aug-01-08 07:16 PM |
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They would pack it in styrofoam cooler boxes |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-01-08 07:20 PM |
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That was a hypothetical example. |
nomorenomore08 |
Aug-01-08 09:39 PM |
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In the real world neither wind or sun is reliable in most of the U.S. |
bamalib |
Aug-02-08 04:15 PM |
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aren't most of the leases simply for the "mineral rights" to take the oil out of the ground. |
QuestionAll |
Aug-01-08 06:10 PM |
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I'm not sure , but this land is leased |
blues90 |
Aug-01-08 07:00 PM |
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The Oil Party=GOP... make it stick DU |
fascisthunter |
Aug-01-08 04:23 PM |
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where specifically are those lands located, and how much of it is known to have oil? |
QuestionAll |
Aug-01-08 04:29 PM |
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Too much logic in that question |
tammywammy |
Aug-01-08 04:40 PM |
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Almost all leased tracts that are -known- to have oil are being produced or explored. |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-01-08 04:41 PM |
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self-delet dupe post |
QuestionAll |
Aug-01-08 04:30 PM |
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Solar panels instead of oil? |
Disturbed |
Aug-01-08 04:40 PM |
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the more important issue is what the oil companies will do with whatever oil . . . |
OneBlueSky |
Aug-01-08 04:44 PM |
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Exactly! Why haven't they built or modernized any refineries? |
redqueen |
Aug-01-08 04:49 PM |
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My brother in law works at a refinery that spent one billion upgrading this year. |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-01-08 05:01 PM |
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I bet he does! |
redqueen |
Aug-01-08 05:07 PM |
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Well, there are some faux-progressives who would love it if they shut down and tossed him out of |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-01-08 05:12 PM |
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And I'm SURE you're JUST the person to decide |
redqueen |
Aug-01-08 05:17 PM |
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Well, that is every bit a legitimate possibility as your speculation about me. |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-01-08 05:53 PM |
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I have family that works in the refinerines in SE Texas |
tammywammy |
Aug-01-08 05:10 PM |
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Shocking! |
redqueen |
Aug-01-08 05:11 PM |
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Why is it shocking? Are you unhappy because people have good jobs |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-01-08 05:17 PM |
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Aug-01-08 05:18 PM |
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I gather you think I should be tossed off here because I express an opinion |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-01-08 05:43 PM |
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no because they think you are a Republican |
fascisthunter |
Aug-01-08 05:58 PM |
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Well, I'm not a Republican...but I'm not a lockstep Democrat either. |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-01-08 06:02 PM |
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The Second Amendment doesn't Apply to Privately owned Web Sites |
fascisthunter |
Aug-01-08 06:21 PM |
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What's the difference between public and private land in this case? |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-01-08 06:31 PM |
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If You Don't Know the Difference I will Assume You Don't Want to Know |
fascisthunter |
Aug-01-08 06:42 PM |
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Oh, I get it. You don't think ANY public land should be used to produce energy. |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-01-08 06:51 PM |
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I posted a link below refuting your talking points about Drilling Benefiting America |
fascisthunter |
Aug-01-08 06:57 PM |
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That's pretty funny. I don't want "that land"...and you ain't getting my guns. |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-01-08 07:05 PM |
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LOL.... You LOSE. You can keep them and stroke them all you want |
fascisthunter |
Aug-01-08 07:10 PM |
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Giggle. In your wildest wet dreams, goober. |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-01-08 07:15 PM |
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awwwwwwww |
fascisthunter |
Aug-01-08 07:17 PM |
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Haven't seen where anyone is unhappy about people having jobs. You don't |
EV_Ares |
Aug-01-08 05:30 PM |
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I am absolutely opposed to most offshore drilling! Where did you get that completely wrong |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-01-08 05:56 PM |
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Maybe not. Glad to hear you are opposed. eom. |
EV_Ares |
Aug-01-08 05:57 PM |
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That I have family that works in them or that they're "good jobs"? n/t |
tammywammy |
Aug-01-08 05:17 PM |
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Nope... just... |
redqueen |
Aug-01-08 05:17 PM |
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Ah. Like Rorshach pictures. |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-01-08 05:57 PM |
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Believe what you want |
tammywammy |
Aug-01-08 06:07 PM |
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lol... |
fascisthunter |
Aug-01-08 05:58 PM |
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68 million acres = 106,216 square miles=the size of these 2 states combined |
Ichingcarpenter |
Aug-01-08 05:00 PM |
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Yeah, they sit on their hands and ask for more land when there is no evidence |
EV_Ares |
Aug-01-08 05:55 PM |
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$$$$$$$$ |
proud patriot |
Aug-01-08 05:56 PM |
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Money but also Trying to set a Precedent to take away from the Commons |
fascisthunter |
Aug-01-08 06:03 PM |
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But but but... the jobs! |
redqueen |
Aug-01-08 06:09 PM |
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Send McCain your resume'. He doesn't give a shit about folks having jobs either. |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-01-08 06:11 PM |
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I Know Redqueen and that Person is a Progressive |
fascisthunter |
Aug-01-08 06:25 PM |
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I'm no lobbyist but I am an oilman. On a tiny scale. I worked my butt off for 4 decades |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-01-08 06:34 PM |
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That's the problem...more drilling on our public lands will not solve our problems |
fascisthunter |
Aug-01-08 06:44 PM |
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That's actually very amusing. I've been replying to people here who say "use it or lose it" |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-01-08 07:03 PM |
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you know what's really amusing... your obtuse behavior |
fascisthunter |
Aug-01-08 07:08 PM |
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You REALLY think the US gov't under an Obama administration wouldn't gladly |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-01-08 07:19 PM |
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PS - OUR PUBLIC LANDS |
fascisthunter |
Aug-01-08 07:22 PM |
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So...what is your point? Public land is managed by the government. |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-01-08 07:27 PM |
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OUR PUBLIC LANDS: not for private profiting or exploitation |
fascisthunter |
Aug-01-08 07:37 PM |
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Okay, I guess I'd like you to tell me how "big" a company is allowed to be before it becomes |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-01-08 07:44 PM |
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not what we are talking about... bait and switch |
fascisthunter |
Aug-01-08 07:54 PM |
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Your pdf link is a dead end. Much like your irrational hate of people who work to produce |
2KS2KHonda |
Aug-01-08 08:05 PM |
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shucks for you... it's back |
fascisthunter |
Aug-01-08 09:51 PM |
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Here's a PDF for you and All DUers to Read about the Myth you are parroting |
fascisthunter |
Aug-01-08 06:49 PM |
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.... |
fascisthunter |
Aug-01-08 07:13 PM |
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Page not found |
dems_rightnow |
Aug-01-08 09:45 PM |
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it's baaaack |
fascisthunter |
Aug-01-08 09:50 PM |
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Here's the updated link |
fascisthunter |
Aug-01-08 09:49 PM |
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I think the original got tangled up & won't post right. |
djmaddox1 |
Aug-01-08 10:07 PM |
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#107 works |
fascisthunter |
Aug-02-08 01:03 PM |
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Big Oil wants ALL the Land, and there are faster ways to get more oil |
StarfishParable |
Aug-01-08 06:59 PM |
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redqueen |
JustAnotherGen |
Aug-01-08 08:08 PM |
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Well it's not like they don't have precedent to go on... |
redqueen |
Aug-01-08 08:22 PM |
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EXACTLY |
JustAnotherGen |
Aug-01-08 08:26 PM |
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Some honest info folks |
Nunyadb |
Aug-02-08 04:29 PM |
#115 |
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