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Wed Jul-30-08 05:49 PM
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| 17. How is a rapacious free-market economy "red"? You confuse communism with totalitarianism. |
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Just because the Communist Party, long taken over by Capitalist counter-revolutionaries, still calls itself "communist" doesn't mean it is. China is a totalitarian capitalist state. Before that it was a totalitarian communist state. Before that it was a totalitarian nationalist capitalist state (fascist) under Shek. Before that it was controlled by emperors who, in the 19th century, sold parts of the nation to the West for personal interest.
China is a totalitarian capitalist state: period. Hardly anything is socialized in China. The economy of Western Europe is more socialized than China.
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| -Hey, All You Free-Marketeers, Anti-Environmentalist Types, Take A Good Look At China |
Yavin4 |
Jul-30-08 03:04 PM |
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We do capitalize on it |
Hydra |
Jul-30-08 03:08 PM |
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I'm actually in an argument in another thread on how Amtrak should go away... |
YOY |
Jul-30-08 03:10 PM |
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But that would be so rude and might upset people! |
DailyGrind51 |
Jul-30-08 03:10 PM |
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Yeah - if you think free markets are bad for the environment |
bryant69 |
Jul-30-08 03:12 PM |
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while i'm all for a well-regulated system of capitalism as well... |
QuestionAll |
Jul-30-08 03:19 PM |
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Is that really a valid complaint though? |
wuushew |
Jul-30-08 03:22 PM |
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I'm not sure what your point is - I don't think Capatalist Russia is sufficiently regulated |
bryant69 |
Jul-30-08 03:29 PM |
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It looks like you have the same quibble as #21 for the exact opposite reason. |
yardwork |
Jul-30-08 10:37 PM |
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Red China is an environmental nightmare. |
DailyGrind51 |
Jul-30-08 03:28 PM |
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I am not sure that's an accurate description of China. n/t |
bryant69 |
Jul-30-08 03:29 PM |
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It sounds pretty accurate to me. |
yardwork |
Jul-30-08 05:25 PM |
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First of all, it's not "red" |
readmoreoften |
Jul-30-08 05:50 PM |
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Besides that, what's your quibble? |
yardwork |
Jul-30-08 08:12 PM |
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Well it's just a huge quibble, I guess. |
readmoreoften |
Jul-30-08 09:19 PM |
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Ok, I get all that, but personally, I never equated "Red China" with pure Communism |
yardwork |
Jul-30-08 10:36 PM |
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Nope. Red China meant the Communist parts of China before the Communists took total control. |
readmoreoften |
Jul-31-08 07:31 AM |
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Pollution and over use of the waters is killing the Yellow River |
csziggy |
Jul-30-08 05:32 PM |
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I believe in the environmental damage - not the capatalism n/t |
bryant69 |
Jul-31-08 07:56 AM |
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I've been there; it's pretty accurate |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Jul-30-08 10:43 PM |
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How is a rapacious free-market economy "red"? You confuse communism with totalitarianism. |
readmoreoften |
Jul-30-08 05:49 PM |
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Don't Drag This Into a Discussion Between Economic Schools of Thought |
Yavin4 |
Jul-30-08 03:43 PM |
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Once the OP References Free Marketers its already in the realm of economic schools of thought n/t |
bryant69 |
Jul-31-08 07:57 AM |
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Okay, let's see it. |
readmoreoften |
Jul-30-08 05:59 PM |
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pics -- this is NOT a rainy day, btw -- |
elehhhhna |
Jul-30-08 04:43 PM |
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That argument won't fly with RWer in America |
progressoid |
Jul-30-08 04:44 PM |
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Plenty of examples |
n2doc |
Jul-30-08 05:17 PM |
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Milton Friedman and his Chicago Boys advised the Chinese Govt. |
AllieB |
Jul-30-08 04:45 PM |
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You are quite right-but the libertarians must have their freedumbs |
nam78_two |
Jul-30-08 09:24 PM |
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Somebody on the Minneapolis paper's website was referring to New York's |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Jul-30-08 10:45 PM |
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Are you seriously implying that China is a free market? nt |
Dreamer Tatum |
Jul-30-08 10:36 PM |
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No, Far From It, But Their Lax Pollution Regulations Matches What The Free Marketeers Here Preach |
Yavin4 |
Jul-30-08 11:10 PM |
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I would argue that wholesale corruption is China's problem |
Dreamer Tatum |
Jul-31-08 10:40 AM |
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Maybe then the Olympic coverage will help |
treestar |
Jul-31-08 08:00 AM |
#32 |
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