kestrel91316
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Wed Jul-30-08 01:45 PM
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| 10. The NE Ag Extension veterinarian I chatted with in NOLA last week told me |
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that, at least in the Midwest, grassfed-only producers are still a tiny minority. It takes many months longer for cattle to get up to slaughter weight on grass than in a feedlot, unfortunately, and time is money. He told me that instead of whole corn in their diet they are now getting the ethanol producers by-product known as distillers grains, which is much healthier for the cattle because it's primarily fiber and protein with a minimum of carbohydrates (those got turned into ethanol).
Just an interesting perspective.......
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| -Harris Ranch in Coalinga...a disgusting sight. |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Jul-30-08 01:35 PM |
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that's the reality of it. |
maxsolomon |
Jul-30-08 01:37 PM |
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Harris claims to be "natural"... |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Jul-30-08 01:41 PM |
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"natural". irrelevant |
aspergris |
Jul-30-08 01:51 PM |
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Ain't got no studies to cite, but I can feel beef hormones in me when I eat that meat |
SpiralHawk |
Jul-30-08 02:41 PM |
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i gotta say |
aspergris |
Jul-30-08 02:44 PM |
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Their claims are thinner than that. Veg feed = corn, not grass which is the natural diet |
Gormy Cuss |
Jul-30-08 02:26 PM |
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I just read an article this week saying that more cattlemen are |
DebJ |
Jul-30-08 01:38 PM |
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The NE Ag Extension veterinarian I chatted with in NOLA last week told me |
kestrel91316 |
Jul-30-08 01:45 PM |
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don't we have too many cattle on public lands already? |
pitohui |
Jul-30-08 02:28 PM |
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There's plenty of private pasture. You won't hear ME advocating |
kestrel91316 |
Jul-30-08 02:40 PM |
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It's about time. |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Jul-30-08 01:46 PM |
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I became a vegeterian in April. |
BonnieJW |
Jul-30-08 01:39 PM |
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I made the mistake of watching... |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Jul-30-08 01:50 PM |
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BTW, In-n-Out customers, this is what you're eating. |
LeftyMom |
Jul-30-08 01:42 PM |
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Yup. I just read that. |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Jul-30-08 01:53 PM |
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Did you go by the cheese plant in Hilmar? |
LeftyMom |
Jul-30-08 01:58 PM |
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I passed by a cheese plant... |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Jul-30-08 02:08 PM |
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My landlord owns a few head of cattle. |
Sentinel Chicken |
Jul-30-08 01:42 PM |
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That sounds ridiculous, since I recall hearing the FDA actually |
DebJ |
Jul-30-08 01:51 PM |
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That sounds like a lot of unneccesary bullshit... |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Jul-30-08 01:56 PM |
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That is not true if you are processing it for your own use, (not for public sale.) |
fl410 |
Jul-30-08 01:58 PM |
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Imagine the stress hormones in the meat |
Juniperx |
Jul-30-08 01:44 PM |
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That is exactly what I thought about. |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Jul-30-08 02:04 PM |
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It's a good start! |
Juniperx |
Jul-30-08 02:28 PM |
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Kosher slaughter is often even worse. Google agriprocessors. |
LeftyMom |
Jul-30-08 02:21 PM |
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That's not the story in the local Glatt markets in Los Angeles... |
Juniperx |
Jul-30-08 02:33 PM |
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Well sure, they have a product to sell. |
LeftyMom |
Jul-30-08 02:43 PM |
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Ugh... no thanks. |
Juniperx |
Jul-30-08 03:10 PM |
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I used to drive by 2 or 3 times a year, |
LWolf |
Jul-30-08 01:44 PM |
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Yes, the amount of manure... |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Jul-30-08 02:12 PM |
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I live in a semi-rural area now, |
LWolf |
Jul-30-08 03:02 PM |
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I quit eating meat because of Harris Ranch. |
driver8 |
Jul-30-08 01:44 PM |
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Yes, I need to find some sort of feedlot free.. |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Jul-30-08 02:15 PM |
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Hwy 1 is safe...it just takes forever!! |
driver8 |
Jul-30-08 02:21 PM |
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Check out the feedlot on Highway 54 in the Texas panhandle... |
KansDem |
Jul-30-08 01:45 PM |
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I read that the Harris Ranch lot... |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Jul-30-08 02:18 PM |
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the hamburger plant. You can smell that place 10 miles before you get there. |
chimpsrsmarter |
Jul-30-08 01:46 PM |
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Where does the water for all these cattle come from? |
hedgehog |
Jul-30-08 01:49 PM |
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I have no idea, honestly. |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Jul-30-08 03:26 PM |
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As it is with all of the "meat" industries. |
flvegan |
Jul-30-08 01:55 PM |
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Few people who know the reality of "finishing" beef |
Warpy |
Jul-30-08 01:57 PM |
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I didn't know what that meant. |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Jul-30-08 03:08 PM |
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Yeah, good old Highway 5 |
PlanetBev |
Jul-30-08 02:03 PM |
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It was freakin' like that EVERYWHERE... |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Jul-30-08 03:11 PM |
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Don't ever drive through CO, NE, or IA |
temperancedissent |
Jul-30-08 02:04 PM |
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OK, that's just nasty! |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Jul-30-08 03:15 PM |
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Coalingus is disgusting |
izquierdista |
Jul-30-08 02:07 PM |
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K and R |
OwnedByFerrets |
Jul-30-08 02:15 PM |
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I drive by there too often -- have actually vomited from the smell twice. |
BushDespiser12 |
Jul-30-08 02:36 PM |
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We spent the night in Visalia before... |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Jul-30-08 03:20 PM |
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Much more scenic, and only marginally longer drive time |
BushDespiser12 |
Jul-30-08 03:22 PM |
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Where are the cow cops when ya need um? Its Bovine Abuse #3 |
opihimoimoi |
Jul-30-08 02:43 PM |
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No, even better... |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Jul-30-08 03:03 PM |
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Yeah...an no air conditioning either...plus some flogging too |
opihimoimoi |
Jul-30-08 03:32 PM |
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and a disgusting smell! |
shanti |
Jul-30-08 03:05 PM |
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and it doesn't matter what time of year...it always stinks to high heaven driving by there. |
ourbluenation |
Jul-30-08 03:11 PM |
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