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Response to Reply #59
60. People who advocate unlimited restrictions on firearms made the NRA what it is today
Before about 1968 it rarely engaged in political activity.
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  -MOTHERJONES: Unmasking a Gun Lobby Mole Segami  Jul-30-08 12:00 PM   #0 
  - and yet many -- even on this board -- allow themselves to be bamboozled by the NRA, not seeing them  villager   Jul-30-08 12:03 PM   #1 
  - Deception can penetrate even the sharpest of nimble minds.  Segami   Jul-30-08 12:09 PM   #3 
  - And many continue to be brainwashed by the Republican Brady Bunch.  fl410   Jul-30-08 12:10 PM   #4 
  - So... you're imagining the NRA hasn't been a faithful GOP tool for decades?  villager   Jul-30-08 12:16 PM   #6 
     - Not at all. The GOP has played them for fools just like it has done with nearly half of  fl410   Jul-30-08 12:57 PM   #7 
     - Once again, its DEJA VU all over again and the Rovian tactics are starting to see daylight  Segami   Jul-30-08 01:32 PM   #9 
     - It's always possible I didn't, but...  villager   Jul-31-08 01:59 AM   #12 
        - Don't you remember what Jim Brady's job was when he got shot?  slackmaster   Jul-31-08 10:12 AM   #32 
           - Oh, I remember.  villager   Jul-31-08 10:54 AM   #44 
              - Yes, I am generally anti-Brady  slackmaster   Jul-31-08 12:04 PM   #49 
                 - "bans on ordinary civilian sporting and self-defense firearms" Such as?  Junkdrawer   Jul-31-08 12:11 PM   #50 
                 - Go to http://www.thomas.gov and look up HR 1022  slackmaster   Jul-31-08 12:25 PM   #51 
                 - The Assault Weapons Ban....Are those words so hard to use?  Junkdrawer   Jul-31-08 12:32 PM   #52 
                    - The AR-15 is the most common rifle used in serious centerfire rifle matches  slackmaster   Jul-31-08 12:40 PM   #53 
                    - I rest my case. n/t  Junkdrawer   Jul-31-08 12:41 PM   #54 
                       - You have made no effort to understand my position  slackmaster   Jul-31-08 12:44 PM   #56 
                       - Unless I am mistaken...  Dimensio0   Jul-31-08 01:54 PM   #70 
                       - AR-15s are increasingly popular for target shooting  tburnsten   Jul-31-08 01:58 PM   #73 
                       - Junkdrawer probably thinks an AR-15 is a machine gun  slackmaster   Jul-31-08 02:07 PM   #76 
                          - Too much Slackmaster!  tburnsten   Jul-31-08 02:13 PM   #79 
                             - He certainly doesn't show many signs of having an open mind  slackmaster   Jul-31-08 02:15 PM   #80 
                       - Are you going to let the gun-control movement define your vocabulary for you?  derby378   Jul-31-08 02:39 PM   #87 
                    - It's the most common centerfire target rifle in the USA...  benEzra   Aug-05-08 10:12 PM   #161 
                 - Such as anything less than a fully automatic firearm.  beevul   Jul-31-08 01:52 PM   #69 
                 - Hmm. So I did understand your original post.  villager   Jul-31-08 12:51 PM   #59 
                    - People who advocate unlimited restrictions on firearms made the NRA what it is today  slackmaster   Jul-31-08 12:54 PM   #60 
                       - nice talking point -- "the NRA isn't responsible for what it does! *You* are!"  villager   Jul-31-08 06:27 PM   #120 
                       - You haven't done jack shit as far as I can tell  slackmaster   Aug-01-08 10:40 AM   #137 
                          - Nice cogent, clearheaded projection-laden response there, Slackmaster  villager   Aug-01-08 11:46 AM   #141 
                             - And I commend you for your prejudiced, ingnorance-rich personal attacks  slackmaster   Aug-01-08 12:53 PM   #142 
                                - boy, you're really riled up today -- perhaps some time on the shooting range is in order?  villager   Aug-01-08 12:58 PM   #144 
                                   - I haven't been to a range in about a year, you may be right  slackmaster   Aug-01-08 01:02 PM   #145 
                                      - "hater?" Have you re-read your last two posts to me lately?  villager   Aug-01-08 01:13 PM   #146 
                                         - Do look at your own posts some time  slackmaster   Aug-01-08 01:18 PM   #147 
                                            - umm... glass houses?  villager   Aug-01-08 01:40 PM   #149 
                                            - More like pots and kettles  slackmaster   Aug-01-08 01:44 PM   #150 
                                            - We'll let your metaphor stand  villager   Aug-01-08 01:50 PM   #151 
                       - Wonder why that was?  tburnsten   Aug-05-08 10:35 AM   #159 
     - The NRA has been a faithful pro-gun organization for over a century  krispos42   Jul-31-08 10:19 AM   #39 
  - Please post citations for this claim.  pipoman   Jul-31-08 06:05 AM   #16 
  - Thank you for proving his point.  baldguy   Jul-31-08 06:39 AM   #19 
     - Pretty simplistic  pipoman   Jul-31-08 06:47 AM   #20 
        - I'm a Life Member of the NRA  Ezlivin   Jul-31-08 04:42 PM   #115 
           - Thanks  pipoman   Jul-31-08 07:18 PM   #122 
  - She was a gun-control advocate before she began working for the NRA, it looks like  krispos42   Jul-31-08 10:13 AM   #33 
  - I'm not an NRA supporter, but they do provide a lot of useful technical information  slackmaster   Jul-31-08 10:17 AM   #36 
  - and she is one of the tips of the moleberg  ensho   Jul-30-08 12:08 PM   #2 
  - This has been going on 24/7 for the last 8 years. Time to purge these pricks.  Segami   Jul-30-08 12:10 PM   #5 
  - "confirm for me the way that the gun lobby works, which is no rules, no question of fairness  Swede   Jul-30-08 01:29 PM   #8 
  - Ahh, Mr. Miller...  beevul   Jul-31-08 01:23 PM   #61 
  - "Cry me a river!"  D__S   Jul-31-08 02:28 PM   #83 
     - What a PANTLOAD!!!  beevul   Jul-31-08 02:36 PM   #85 
  - What a joke...  Nabeshin   Jul-31-08 02:41 PM   #88 
  - Mary was an "agent provocateur" in the animal rights movement  TheBorealAvenger   Jul-30-08 01:51 PM   #10 
  - I wonder what her next ' mission ' will be and who'll foot the bill? It would seem that you can't  Segami   Jul-30-08 01:58 PM   #11 
     - With any luck her face will be plastered on every progressive group's meeting room bulletin board  Hekate   Jul-31-08 02:16 AM   #13 
  - My gods, she convinced an animal-rights activist to plant a pipe bomb  Hekate   Jul-31-08 02:33 AM   #14 
  - Like the FBI/CIA in the 60s  Nevernose   Jul-31-08 04:11 AM   #15 
  - That is fucked up  tburnsten   Jul-31-08 01:32 PM   #62 
  - Do the math  Tejas   Jul-31-08 06:06 AM   #17 
  - I see nothing wrong with her actions.  D__S   Jul-31-08 06:38 AM   #18 
  - Wow. Just wow....  Junkdrawer   Jul-31-08 06:47 AM   #21 
  - May I second that "wow"?  Hell Hath No Fury   Jul-31-08 10:41 AM   #42 
     - There certainly are  tburnsten   Jul-31-08 04:09 PM   #107 
     - Let me second your second...  truebrit71   Jul-31-08 04:37 PM   #114 
  - That's the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard.  alarimer   Jul-31-08 07:38 AM   #22 
  - You forgot the :sarcasm: tag  baldguy   Jul-31-08 08:02 AM   #23 
  - the first three groups you mentioned have a history of murders and bombings  Blue_Tires   Jul-31-08 08:07 AM   #24 
  - True...  D__S   Jul-31-08 08:25 AM   #25 
     - And the NRA is spying on their political opposition  baldguy   Jul-31-08 09:11 AM   #26 
     - they never were on the side of Freedom  fascisthunter   Jul-31-08 10:20 AM   #40 
     - Umm, NRA is not a government agency  tburnsten   Jul-31-08 01:37 PM   #64 
     - There's a saying...  D__S   Jul-31-08 02:22 PM   #81 
     - The anti-slavery movement deprived citizens of one of their constitutional rights.  Donald Ian Rankin   Jul-31-08 09:54 AM   #31 
        - You do realize your beliefs are in the  pipoman   Jul-31-08 08:16 PM   #123 
  - Every one of those sites  michreject   Jul-31-08 09:40 AM   #28 
  - I'm Not Surprised You'd Feel That Way Considering you have  fascisthunter   Jul-31-08 10:18 AM   #38 
  - "Time to take the meds...."?!?!?!  slackmaster   Jul-31-08 10:29 AM   #41 
  - No sweat off my balls.  D__S   Jul-31-08 02:24 PM   #82 
  - Chill...  derby378   Jul-31-08 02:52 PM   #90 
  - Sentiments I agree with.  beevul   Jul-31-08 01:50 PM   #67 
  - Mother Jones is FOS.  old mark   Jul-31-08 09:16 AM   #27 
  - Wow...now isn't that a steaming pile of horsehit...  truebrit71   Jul-31-08 10:53 AM   #43 
  - Which part isn't true?  beevul   Jul-31-08 01:44 PM   #66 
     - Banning handguns is NOT a progressive trait anymore?  truebrit71   Jul-31-08 02:55 PM   #91 
        - What is "progressive" about banning handguns?  tburnsten   Jul-31-08 03:05 PM   #92 
        - Outlawing handguns is SO not progressive...  derby378   Jul-31-08 03:05 PM   #93 
        - surrrrre  fascisthunter   Jul-31-08 03:09 PM   #94 
           - Sooner or later, you'll have to make a choice...  derby378   Jul-31-08 03:16 PM   #95 
        - Way to not address anything I said.  beevul   Jul-31-08 03:22 PM   #97 
        - Re-read my answer...  truebrit71   Jul-31-08 03:54 PM   #103 
           - I read it several times..  beevul   Jul-31-08 04:08 PM   #106 
           - Civil rights violation? Not so much...  truebrit71   Jul-31-08 04:31 PM   #112 
              - I have some news for you.  beevul   Jul-31-08 04:56 PM   #118 
           - You claim gun-control is a progressive issue  tburnsten   Aug-01-08 06:31 AM   #128 
        - It might be one  krispos42   Aug-01-08 10:17 AM   #134 
  - Yes this woman who has infiltrated and promoted violence in activist groups is the real hero here.  GreenJ   Jul-31-08 11:06 AM   #46 
  - Why would gun control groups have any secrets to keep from us?  wvbygod   Jul-31-08 09:47 AM   #29 
  - Whoa. That amount of spin will make you nauseous...  Junkdrawer   Jul-31-08 09:49 AM   #30 
  - it's pretty funny actually  fascisthunter   Jul-31-08 10:15 AM   #34 
  - I'm in the same boat  tburnsten   Jul-31-08 01:51 PM   #68 
  - Interesting article.  krispos42   Jul-31-08 10:16 AM   #35 
  - Just a bunch of law-abiding citizens  gratuitous   Jul-31-08 10:17 AM   #37 
  - I agree wholeheartedly  tburnsten   Jul-31-08 01:56 PM   #71 
  - At first I thought "Well, wonder how many Marys post here?". But...  Junkdrawer   Jul-31-08 02:28 PM   #84 
     - On sensibility...  beevul   Jul-31-08 02:47 PM   #89 
        - How silly of me...what deer hunter leaves his home without 50 caliber bullets....  Junkdrawer   Jul-31-08 03:16 PM   #96 
           - What does deer hunting have to do with it?  beevul   Jul-31-08 03:27 PM   #98 
  - I can't believe there are people on this thread that are defending this woman  GreenJ   Jul-31-08 11:02 AM   #45 
  - Yes. But you probably don't live in perpetual fear that *someone*...  Junkdrawer   Jul-31-08 11:07 AM   #47 
  - What is liberal about gun bans?  tburnsten   Jul-31-08 02:00 PM   #74 
  - Brady Campaign's an organization that only exists to self-perpetuate - Bollocks  TheBorealAvenger   Jul-31-08 03:33 PM   #100 
  - The article doesn't say anything about her promoting violence  slackmaster   Jul-31-08 02:13 PM   #78 
     - So I guess you didn't actually read the article. Just spouting NRA talking points...  GreenJ   Aug-01-08 04:31 AM   #127 
        - Yes, I missed that part, thanks  slackmaster   Aug-01-08 10:39 AM   #136 
  - Good.  gorfle   Jul-31-08 11:19 AM   #48 
  - Free speech is a fundamental Constitutionally enumerated right.  baldguy   Jul-31-08 12:42 PM   #55 
     - Isn't government spying bub.  tburnsten   Jul-31-08 02:02 PM   #75 
     - Sure!  gorfle   Aug-01-08 06:39 PM   #158 
  - How to put a stop to a MMM/Brady/VPC meeting  virginia mountainman   Jul-31-08 12:46 PM   #57 
  - And expose them as targets to the gun freaks.  baldguy   Jul-31-08 12:48 PM   #58 
  - Terrible thing...  beevul   Jul-31-08 01:34 PM   #63 
  - Yeah like banning lethal weapons...  truebrit71   Jul-31-08 03:56 PM   #104 
     - Yeah, because it would save lives, right?  krispos42   Aug-01-08 10:15 AM   #133 
        - Question for you...when was the Brady Bill first enacted?  truebrit71   Aug-01-08 10:19 AM   #135 
           - 1993, taking effect in 1994. Some elements expired in 2004.  krispos42   Aug-01-08 11:09 AM   #139 
              - "Is there any legislation that would correspond to that increase? "..I can honestly say I don't know  truebrit71   Aug-01-08 11:29 AM   #140 
                 - It's per-capita, not absolute  krispos42   Aug-01-08 01:58 PM   #152 
  - LOL, bullshit...  virginia mountainman   Jul-31-08 01:42 PM   #65 
  - They have a right to ban cameras at their meetings you moron  TheBorealAvenger   Jul-31-08 03:36 PM   #101 
     - Uh...  beevul   Jul-31-08 03:43 PM   #102 
        - You must be incredibly bored. I could think of all kinds of better things to do on a summer day  TheBorealAvenger   Jul-31-08 09:15 PM   #124 
           - Yea..  virginia mountainman   Jul-31-08 10:56 PM   #125 
           - Why would what I wrote lead you to believe I'm bored?  beevul   Aug-01-08 03:20 PM   #155 
  - Are you saying that anti-gun activists experience irrational paranoia?  Dimensio0   Jul-31-08 01:56 PM   #72 
     - I would Say that Was True of Militant Gun Nuts Pushing the NRA Agenda (RW)  fascisthunter   Jul-31-08 04:30 PM   #111 
        - "who own guns, and they also support gun regulation."  tburnsten   Jul-31-08 04:52 PM   #117 
        - A safer society and a gun-free society do not necessary go hand-in-hand  krispos42   Aug-01-08 10:42 AM   #138 
  - The Gun Control Movement Is Not "republican filled."  Paladin   Jul-31-08 04:28 PM   #110 
     - But it IS republican led.  beevul   Jul-31-08 05:01 PM   #119 
        - That Is Most Certainly NOT A Misrepresentation Of That Poll  Paladin   Aug-01-08 01:29 PM   #148 
           - Love to hear it? Allow me. This is how its a misrepresentation.  beevul   Aug-01-08 02:52 PM   #153 
  - All you objectors...  beevul   Jul-31-08 02:13 PM   #77 
  - Um. someone from a gun-lobby infiltrates an anti-gun group to better aid her sponsors..  truebrit71   Jul-31-08 03:59 PM   #105 
     - And it works the other way as well  tburnsten   Jul-31-08 04:13 PM   #108 
     - How odd.  beevul   Jul-31-08 04:18 PM   #109 
        - How odd, I have exposed your republican thought process and you obfuscate instead...  truebrit71   Jul-31-08 04:36 PM   #113 
           - My republican thought process?  beevul   Jul-31-08 04:49 PM   #116 
           - Gun-nuts bore me...  truebrit71   Aug-01-08 07:56 AM   #130 
              - Gosh...I'm...flattered?  beevul   Aug-01-08 02:58 PM   #154 
           - truebrit, are you another canadian?  old mark   Aug-01-08 08:33 AM   #131 
              - Nope.  truebrit71   Aug-01-08 08:39 AM   #132 
  - Basic Corporate Espionage  tburnsten   Jul-31-08 02:39 PM   #86 
  - Enemy combatant.  NoSheep   Jul-31-08 03:30 PM   #99 
  - This thread made me feel like I should go get a gun.  FarceOfNature   Jul-31-08 06:34 PM   #121 
     - i think there are a few licensed dealers on DU somewhere  Blue_Tires   Jul-31-08 10:56 PM   #126 
     - Most companies are non-partisan  tburnsten   Aug-01-08 06:46 AM   #129 
     - Please get yourself some safety training before you pick up a gun or any other weapon  slackmaster   Aug-01-08 12:54 PM   #143 
        - hahaha it's not like I've never handled anything dangerous before.  FarceOfNature   Aug-01-08 04:08 PM   #156 
           - No worries, just shoot by yourself  tburnsten   Aug-01-08 06:30 PM   #157 
           - If you found that post aggressive you really do need to stay out any discussion on guns.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Aug-05-08 02:46 PM   #160 
 

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