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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 11:02 AM
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34. Fine -- but you DON'T have them read this stuff EXCLUSIVELY!
Edited on Fri Aug-01-08 11:05 AM by antigop
That's my point.

And there is that meme again in your post -- they'll have to "slog" through.

There is no reason that kids have to "slog" through classical literature.

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  -Orson Scott Card further reveals his whackadoodliness DavidD  Jul-30-08 10:25 AM   #0 
  - This from a guy who once wrote a book about a giant worm screwing a woman  n2doc   Jul-30-08 10:32 AM   #1 
  - Which book was that?  Greyskye   Jul-31-08 06:14 PM   #24 
     - Wyrms  n2doc   Aug-01-08 02:18 PM   #64 
  - Why are his books "increasingly used in schools"? n/t  antigop   Jul-30-08 10:35 AM   #2 
  - Because kids will actually read them  Mr. Blonde   Jul-30-08 10:43 AM   #3 
  - Whatever happened to classics such as "Huckleberry Finn" and "Tom Sawyer"? n/t  antigop   Jul-30-08 10:58 AM   #4 
  - Some schools are skittish  Mr. Blonde   Jul-31-08 12:40 AM   #6 
     - "What is the point when kids won't read them?" Um, the teacher assigns it ...  antigop   Jul-31-08 02:12 PM   #8 
     - I sincerely hope that you're not in the teaching profession  MadHound   Jul-31-08 02:46 PM   #13 
     - Fine-- let them read this kind of stuff on their own if they want  antigop   Jul-31-08 04:45 PM   #16 
     - Like I said earlier, you're not in the educational field, it's obvious  MadHound   Jul-31-08 05:15 PM   #20 
        - I'm not talking about establishing political criteria for reading selection  antigop   Jul-31-08 08:15 PM   #25 
           - required *SUMMER* reading  Greyskye   Aug-01-08 01:23 PM   #58 
     - And , yes, I have been a teacher. n/t  antigop   Jul-31-08 04:49 PM   #18 
        - Thank goodness that's in the past tense  MadHound   Jul-31-08 05:34 PM   #22 
           - Nope-- I subscribed to the philosophy that kids live up to people's expectations of them  antigop   Jul-31-08 08:17 PM   #26 
     - times change  melm00se   Aug-01-08 01:35 PM   #60 
     - ender's game repeatedly uses a GAY slur!  pitohui   Jul-31-08 04:58 PM   #19 
  - I haven't been able to go near one of his books since  JerseygirlCT   Jul-31-08 02:30 PM   #11 
  - Because his protagonists are usually children or young adults.  LeftyMom   Jul-31-08 12:53 AM   #7 
  - sorry, I don't buy that -- kids should be reading the classics, not this stuff.  antigop   Jul-31-08 02:13 PM   #9 
     - I'd consider Ender's Game a modern classic...  Jack_DeLeon   Jul-31-08 03:18 PM   #14 
     - Well, I don't consider it a "classic". There are lots better choices out there. n/t  antigop   Jul-31-08 04:47 PM   #17 
        - I'm curious. Have you read Ender's Game?  Greyskye   Jul-31-08 06:09 PM   #23 
           - As we's required reading for freshmen pre-AP in our school district  antigop   Jul-31-08 08:24 PM   #28 
              - Do you disapprove of Harry Potter as well?  Greyskye   Aug-01-08 10:12 AM   #30 
                 - Once again, I'm talking about REQUIRED READING ASSIGNMENTS  antigop   Aug-01-08 10:58 AM   #33 
                    - Fail.  Greyskye   Aug-01-08 01:26 PM   #59 
     - Give them a zero for not reading some shitty book they don't want to read?  Bornaginhooligan   Jul-31-08 05:16 PM   #21 
     - And if they don't want to do their geometry homework, we should provide a replacement  antigop   Jul-31-08 08:23 PM   #27 
        - Have you got a valid replacement for geometry?  Bornaginhooligan   Aug-01-08 11:12 AM   #38 
           - If you want to consider this stuff "valid replacements for classics" then I feel sorry for you. n/t  antigop   Aug-01-08 11:16 AM   #42 
              - If you think the classics are superior to modern literature...  Bornaginhooligan   Aug-01-08 11:17 AM   #44 
                 - And if you are saying that the classics should not be covered AT ALL, then I feel sorry for you. n/  antigop   Aug-01-08 11:18 AM   #46 
                    - Did they teach logic at your school?  Bornaginhooligan   Aug-01-08 11:23 AM   #48 
                       - Did they teach reading at your school n/t  antigop   Aug-01-08 11:24 AM   #50 
                          - Yes.  Bornaginhooligan   Aug-01-08 11:25 AM   #51 
                             - shows that you haven't read my posts. IGNORE...sorry, pal, I don't have time for this. nt  antigop   Aug-01-08 11:26 AM   #52 
     - The classics only became classics because they were at one time popular  LeftyMom   Aug-01-08 10:39 AM   #32 
        - Fine -- but you DON'T have them read this stuff EXCLUSIVELY!  antigop   Aug-01-08 11:02 AM   #34 
        - Err...  Bornaginhooligan   Aug-01-08 11:11 AM   #37 
        - No, my point was reading this stuff to the EXCLUSION of everything else. n/t  antigop   Aug-01-08 11:15 AM   #39 
           - "kids should be reading the classics, not this stuff."  Bornaginhooligan   Aug-01-08 11:15 AM   #40 
              - Post #25. n/t  antigop   Aug-01-08 11:17 AM   #45 
        - Who was saying they should?  LeftyMom   Aug-01-08 11:16 AM   #41 
        - and there's merit in reading classical literature. n/t  antigop   Aug-01-08 11:03 AM   #35 
           - The two are in no way mutually exclusive.  LeftyMom   Aug-01-08 11:16 AM   #43 
              - But they are -- on our REQUIRED SCHOOL READING LISTS  antigop   Aug-01-08 11:23 AM   #49 
                 - Then talk to whoever writes your area's lists.  LeftyMom   Aug-01-08 11:56 AM   #54 
                 - I have brought it up repeatedly....and all I get is ..."well, the kids just aren't INTERESTED in  antigop   Aug-01-08 12:26 PM   #57 
                 - Let's see this list of yours.  Bornaginhooligan   Aug-01-08 11:58 AM   #55 
  - Beats me.  AngryOldDem   Jul-31-08 02:24 PM   #10 
  - got an audio book of his from the library: the protagonist went  Gabi Hayes   Jul-31-08 02:33 PM   #12 
  - Probably because he writes like a child  mitchum   Jul-31-08 08:27 PM   #29 
     - Card has his problems...  Greyskye   Aug-01-08 11:19 AM   #47 
  - What a shame an occasionally great writer has his intellect crippled by this garbage  bdf   Jul-30-08 03:04 PM   #5 
  - I guess we're not gonna read about any more naked boy, soaped up, shower fight scenes from Orson.  Blue-Jay   Jul-31-08 03:20 PM   #15 
  - "Classics" are awful  DireStrike   Aug-01-08 10:35 AM   #31 
  - Wow. Nature invented marriage! I didn't know that.  hunter   Aug-01-08 11:10 AM   #36 
  - That asswipe  ismnotwasm   Aug-01-08 11:46 AM   #53 
  - I hate his politics, but I do admit I have enjoyed his books immensely  semillama   Aug-01-08 12:20 PM   #56 
  - I agree.  lumberjack_jeff   Aug-01-08 01:39 PM   #61 
  - He's definitely not a bad writer  ismnotwasm   Aug-01-08 02:00 PM   #62 
  - He may be crazy  rch35   Aug-01-08 02:10 PM   #63 

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