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jcrew2001 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 04:35 PM
Response to Reply #37
43. spoiler
A spoiler candidate always takes votes away from the front-runner. If he is a true spoiler, he'll take votes away from Hillary and then Edwards will likely benefit from this.

Sort of like nadar taking votes from gore, and clark taking votes from Dean.
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  -So ummm....wasn't Wes Clark suppose to run for President or something?? Perky  Mar-08-07 02:02 PM   #0 
  - Boy, we're spoiled in this culture, aren't we?  Clark2008   Mar-08-07 02:04 PM   #1 
  - Everybody who is running has set up exploratory committee  Perky   Mar-08-07 02:13 PM   #4 
  - Uh-oh.  JNelson6563   Mar-08-07 02:18 PM   #8 
  - LOL  Perky   Mar-08-07 02:20 PM   #10 
     - Your sense of humor is, well, strange.  Clark2008   Mar-08-07 03:04 PM   #13 
  - kucinich  jcrew2001   Mar-08-07 03:23 PM   #20 
     - If we want to get out of Iraq, Edwards or Hillary will be the nominee?  Clark2008   Mar-08-07 03:37 PM   #29 
     - he said he was wrong and  jcrew2001   Mar-08-07 04:17 PM   #38 
        - gee, ya think? Cuz, looky what he said - after the apology:  The Count   Mar-08-07 04:45 PM   #48 
           - Iran is more of a threat than Iraq but  jcrew2001   Mar-08-07 04:52 PM   #51 
              - we don't know that Iran has weapons.......  FrenchieCat   Mar-08-07 05:01 PM   #58 
              - they don't have nuclear plants?  jcrew2001   Mar-08-07 05:07 PM   #62 
                 - A plant is now a weapon?  FrenchieCat   Mar-08-07 05:21 PM   #71 
                    - but is Iran more dangerous than Iraq?  jcrew2001   Mar-08-07 05:25 PM   #74 
              - The largest threat posed by Iran right now  LeviathanCrumbling   Mar-08-07 06:26 PM   #85 
     - Um, yeah, cuz they sponsored/voted for IWR, so we can trust them on wars!  The Count   Mar-08-07 04:43 PM   #46 
        - But Bush led us into war, its all Bush's  jcrew2001   Mar-08-07 04:55 PM   #53 
           - So let me make sure that I understand you....  FrenchieCat   Mar-08-07 05:05 PM   #60 
           - So you're telling me that Clark voted against the  jcrew2001   Mar-08-07 05:11 PM   #65 
              - Well I'll take my fantasy land over that  FrenchieCat   Mar-08-07 05:22 PM   #72 
                 - are you saying the real world sucks  jcrew2001   Mar-08-07 05:26 PM   #76 
                    - No, I'm saying More like  FrenchieCat   Mar-08-07 05:38 PM   #83 
                       - I would say that the feeling is mutual,  jcrew2001   Mar-08-07 07:37 PM   #92 
                          - Are you named after Jcrew socks?  FrenchieCat   Mar-08-07 08:18 PM   #96 
                             - I consider myself a well groomed metrosexual  jcrew2001   Mar-08-07 08:33 PM   #99 
           - But if Edwards were president, he would have started the war!  The Count   Mar-08-07 10:36 PM   #124 
  - 1960's didn't have media or money so its  jcrew2001   Mar-08-07 04:45 PM   #47 
  - No, last time, Clark ran because Bush was an asshole who took  FrenchieCat   Mar-08-07 04:57 PM   #55 
     - Cuz Clark voted for the IWR - oh wait he was sitting  jcrew2001   Mar-08-07 05:05 PM   #61 
        - Well, he testified in front of Congress against invading Iraq...  CarolNYC   Mar-08-07 05:09 PM   #63 
        - i know, he should build a time machine, and  jcrew2001   Mar-08-07 05:12 PM   #67 
           - Not sure what good that would do...  CarolNYC   Mar-08-07 07:05 PM   #87 
        - Clark was sitting his ass in front of both houses of congress  FrenchieCat   Mar-08-07 05:12 PM   #66 
           - maybe he should run for congress if  jcrew2001   Mar-08-07 05:13 PM   #68 
              - Have you ever  Jim4Wes   Mar-08-07 07:10 PM   #89 
                 - i don't have a problem with clark  jcrew2001   Mar-08-07 07:32 PM   #91 
                    - just for the record  Jim4Wes   Mar-08-07 07:59 PM   #95 
                    - I know, his record is pretty thin, not much there  jcrew2001   Mar-08-07 08:31 PM   #98 
                       - "from the horses mouth"  Jim4Wes   Mar-08-07 08:35 PM   # 
                    - Rammed down your throat????Who started this thread? Sure as hell, not a Clarkie  The Count   Mar-08-07 10:44 PM   #125 
  - Daily KOS: Clark is out. At least the next 3 months.  RiverStone   Mar-08-07 05:20 PM   #70 
  - More spin......From Markos and Bowers who are not kingmakers of Prez on the Internet.  FrenchieCat   Mar-08-07 05:36 PM   #81 
  - This isn't 1960  Hippo_Tron   Mar-08-07 08:57 PM   #113 
  - If he runs, he may be waiting for Clinton and/or Obama to fizzle out  DinoBoy   Mar-08-07 02:10 PM   #2 
  - waiting  jcrew2001   Mar-08-07 02:20 PM   #9 
     - The anti-Hillary?  NoPasaran   Mar-08-07 03:15 PM   #18 
        - not according to revisionist clark suporters  jcrew2001   Mar-08-07 03:24 PM   #21 
        - How was that.....  FrenchieCat   Mar-08-07 05:14 PM   #69 
  - Some heads will explode 'round here if he doesn't.  Lex   Mar-08-07 02:11 PM   #3 
  - Well I think Al Gore might heal those wounds  bryant69   Mar-08-07 02:16 PM   #5 
  - Lots Of Clarkies Like Gore. I'm One Of Them  Dinger   Mar-08-07 08:38 PM   #103 
  - Well, I know that if neither he nor Gore runs, I'm throwing in the  Clark2008   Mar-08-07 03:10 PM   #15 
  - Edwards can beat Rudy and Romney  jcrew2001   Mar-08-07 03:25 PM   #22 
  - No. He can't.  Clark2008   Mar-08-07 03:36 PM   #28 
     - but do they like Rudy, Romney and McCain  jcrew2001   Mar-08-07 04:18 PM   #39 
  - Have a Clarkie accuse others  KingofNewOrleans   Mar-08-07 06:31 PM   #86 
     - A-fucking-men!  NoPasaran   Mar-08-07 07:07 PM   #88 
        - overstatement of the year, lol.  Jim4Wes   Mar-08-07 08:27 PM   #97 
        - Post of the week In your world.....  FrenchieCat   Mar-08-07 08:47 PM   #105 
           - I thought you swore off these threads  KingofNewOrleans   Mar-08-07 09:17 PM   #118 
              - Read again what I said......  FrenchieCat   Mar-08-07 09:44 PM   #119 
  - Dupe. Glitch.  Clark2008   Mar-08-07 03:10 PM   #16 
  - Dupe. Glitch.  Clark2008   Mar-08-07 03:10 PM   #17 
  - I actually think  Jim4Wes   Mar-08-07 05:42 PM   #84 
  - Here's an excellent thread addressing this:  The Count   Mar-08-07 02:17 PM   #6 
  - He did that last time, remember?  Kelly Rupert   Mar-08-07 02:18 PM   #7 
  - not a politician  jcrew2001   Mar-08-07 02:29 PM   #11 
  - He'll be better than 2004  AndreaCG   Mar-08-07 02:55 PM   #12 
  - Thank God.....  FrenchieCat   Mar-08-07 04:49 PM   #50 
     - i know, who needs votes or voters anyways  jcrew2001   Mar-08-07 07:41 PM   #93 
        - That might not be a bad idea......  FrenchieCat   Mar-08-07 08:51 PM   #106 
  - Actually, I remember him kicking Dean's ass in fundraising  Clark2008   Mar-08-07 03:06 PM   #14 
     - MSM would mention him more if he actually  jcrew2001   Mar-08-07 03:27 PM   #24 
     - They didn't mention him in 2004 when he WON Oklahoma - so  Clark2008   Mar-08-07 03:38 PM   #30 
     - Who knew OK had a primary?  dbaker41   Mar-08-07 03:46 PM   #35 
     - but who votes in the Ok primary and  jcrew2001   Mar-08-07 04:20 PM   #40 
     - By the time he won Oklahoma  AndreaCG   Mar-08-07 04:30 PM   #42 
     - fraud. amazing. he's the only really authentic person there. you really  roguevalley   Mar-08-07 08:52 PM   #108 
     - The Media is The Problem For ALL Democratic Candidates  AndyTiedye   Mar-08-07 03:42 PM   #33 
     - Agree.  FrenchieCat   Mar-08-07 08:53 PM   #109 
     - i admit that Clark could beat Edwards in the  jcrew2001   Mar-08-07 04:41 PM   #44 
  - I applaud Clark's focus on issues and not the race but he hasn't got Gore's name id or funds to be  Czolgosz   Mar-08-07 03:20 PM   #19 
  - he'll be a spoiler for hillary and then  jcrew2001   Mar-08-07 03:30 PM   #26 
     - I'd like some of whatever it is you're smoking. NT  NYCGirl   Mar-08-07 03:45 PM   #34 
     - Actually, Richardson is the one who takes DLC-oriented votes from Hillary. Few Clarkies have Hillary  Czolgosz   Mar-08-07 04:14 PM   #37 
        - spoiler  jcrew2001   Mar-08-07 04:35 PM   #43 
           - We agree on what a "spoiler" is. We disagree that Clark is a "spoiler" for Hillary. Hillary is very  Czolgosz   Mar-08-07 04:54 PM   #52 
              - But then how can Clark win the primary without  jcrew2001   Mar-08-07 04:58 PM   #56 
                 - Iowa polling: Edwards 24%, Hillary 18%, Obama 18%, Biden 5%, Richardson 3%, Clark 2%  Czolgosz   Mar-08-07 05:10 PM   #64 
  - If you want to get the measure of General Clark, you should check out  Old Crusoe   Mar-08-07 03:27 PM   #23 
  - He would win the GOP nomination for sure  jcrew2001   Mar-08-07 03:29 PM   #25 
     - He never was with them.  Clark2008   Mar-08-07 03:39 PM   #31 
     - clark's been an active democrat for  jcrew2001   Mar-08-07 04:26 PM   #41 
        - How Much Have You Heard Clark?  ribofunk   Mar-08-07 04:56 PM   #54 
        - if he's so great, then he should walk away with  jcrew2001   Mar-08-07 05:01 PM   #57 
        - we don't proclaim anything. we discuss our candidate, like hillary's  roguevalley   Mar-08-07 08:56 PM   #112 
     - I don't think the GOP would be remotely interested in nominating a  Old Crusoe   Mar-08-07 03:56 PM   #36 
  - He was very good with Amy Goodman  Jax   Mar-08-07 03:35 PM   #27 
  - Sure glad you all are democrats.  rebel with a cause   Mar-08-07 03:41 PM   #32 
  - Oh cmon its the national pastime here on DU  Perky   Mar-08-07 05:30 PM   #78 
     - I am not defending Clark.  rebel with a cause   Mar-08-07 05:34 PM   #80 
     - Clark wins the DU American Idol contest  jcrew2001   Mar-08-07 07:43 PM   #94 
  - hes busy doing stuff like stopping war with Iran  LSK   Mar-08-07 04:43 PM   #45 
  - if bush goes to war with Iran that will boost  jcrew2001   Mar-08-07 04:48 PM   #49 
     - So I guess that Clark is working against his own best interest....  FrenchieCat   Mar-08-07 05:26 PM   #75 
     - Last time I looked, Clark was a civilian. He is also an economist,  roguevalley   Mar-08-07 08:58 PM   #115 
  - I don't think Clark will run  robcon   Mar-08-07 05:04 PM   #59 
  - I think Clark will run,  FrenchieCat   Mar-08-07 05:24 PM   #73 
     - i want a civilian president, even though  jcrew2001   Mar-08-07 05:28 PM   #77 
        - again, wes clark is a civilian. He's a civilian just like washington,  roguevalley   Mar-08-07 09:00 PM   #116 
  - Wes Clark is a great American and a Great Democrat who has been against the war from the start  WI_DEM   Mar-08-07 05:32 PM   #79 
  - don't say clark will be VP, it will upset a lot of clark  jcrew2001   Mar-08-07 08:36 PM   #101 
     - Try not to speak for others.....  FrenchieCat   Mar-08-07 08:53 PM   #110 
  - Strategies are based on something  Jim4Wes   Mar-08-07 05:36 PM   #82 
  - this is true, less focus on personality and charm  jcrew2001   Mar-08-07 08:35 PM   #100 
     - That shoehorn you keep sticking in my mouth  Jim4Wes   Mar-08-07 08:36 PM   #102 
  - We shall see about that  KT2000   Mar-08-07 07:15 PM   #90 
  - i had thought that  jcrew2001   Mar-08-07 08:38 PM   #104 
  - IF he plans on running, i'd say his strategery is doing just fine...  QuestionAll   Mar-08-07 08:52 PM   #107 
     - he should announce on Nov 4th  jcrew2001   Mar-08-07 08:55 PM   #111 
     - You're so fucking silly, until you make me laugh!  FrenchieCat   Mar-08-07 08:58 PM   #114 
     - almost as silly as talking about a  jcrew2001   Mar-08-07 09:56 PM   #120 
        - I don't think anyone really gives a good F*ck  FrenchieCat   Mar-08-07 10:06 PM   #122 
     - I counted quickly. I think this is your 36th post on this thread  Tom Rinaldo   Mar-08-07 09:01 PM   #117 
        - i'm going to use everything i learned about  jcrew2001   Mar-08-07 10:04 PM   #121 
           - good Gawd! You and yours are  FrenchieCat   Mar-08-07 10:08 PM   #123 
           - They voted for IWR - all except Obama- so, yeah, they're worthless.  The Count   Mar-08-07 10:46 PM   #126 
     - Wrong...the election for the nomination is in in January and early February  Perky   Mar-09-07 04:52 PM   #127 
        - it's still too early...by months...to get into 'the race'.  QuestionAll   Mar-09-07 07:36 PM   #128 
 

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