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Wed Jul-30-08 10:33 AM
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| 27. An AF Brig Gen, intent on suicide, shoots himself in the chest? That's odd. |
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Edited on Wed Jul-30-08 10:40 AM by Peace Patriot
It's reminiscent of David Kelly--a top scientist--slitting one wrist (minor artery) and then bleeding to death all night, out in the rain under a tree near his home. Their type of suicide is a poor fit to either man. A further oddity (of many) with Kelly is that he had been IDed as the notorious BBC whistleblower on the "sexed up" pre-war intel, and had been interrogated at a "safe house" and threatened with the Official Secrets Act. The Blair gov't then outed his name to the press, and sent him home without protection and apparently without surveillance. It is not believable that he wasn't being watched. And so, where were his watchers as he bled to death all night, outdoors near his home? Same week as the Plame outing. Plame outed 7/14/03. Kelly found dead 7/18/03. His office and computers were searched. Then Novak additionally outed the entire Brewster-Jennnings WMD counter-proliferation network 7/22/03. I don't recall the dates of the nukes on the runway story. I'm going to look it up right now. Could they have been connected to a possible Rumsfeld manufacture of a "Gulf of Tonkin" incident re Iran (the British sailors crisis), in the same month as Rumsfeld's resignation (Dec 06)? ----- Just looked it up. The cross-country nuke tour from Minot was Aug 07. So it doesn't seem directly related to Rumsfeld's resignation (and top period of danger for nuking of Iran, which I think was during the British sailors' incident--Dec 06). However, there have been MANY irregularities and incidents re nukes at that base. This site has a list of them, for further study: http://www.legitgov.org/minot_afb_nukes_oddities.html
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| -Aide to Sen Jim Webb fround dead from gunshot wound, Brig Gen Tinsley also found dead in |
Democrat 4 Ever |
Jul-30-08 06:33 AM |
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interesting... |
glowing |
Jul-30-08 06:42 AM |
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More timely deaths... |
RC |
Jul-30-08 06:51 AM |
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Did they use ratshot? nt |
bemildred |
Jul-30-08 07:00 AM |
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In Jim Webb's case could this be a message from George? |
Lint Head |
Jul-30-08 07:11 AM |
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That was my first thought |
MiniMe |
Jul-30-08 07:31 AM |
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Message from the MIC...n/t |
Virginia Dare |
Jul-30-08 07:49 AM |
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Lest we forget Senators Wellstone and Carnahan. |
CLG_News |
Jul-30-08 08:56 AM |
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My first thought also. |
Enthusiast |
Jul-31-08 05:54 AM |
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just what i was thinking...msg from 'the family' |
katty |
Jul-31-08 01:20 PM |
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Another one of Webb's aides tried to bring a gun into the Senate. |
blackops |
Jul-30-08 08:06 AM |
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Webb grew up in the western part of Virginia where it's normal to have guns |
beachmom |
Jul-30-08 08:43 AM |
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These are his aides carrying guns, and why do they need to hunt in the Senate? nt |
blackops |
Jul-30-08 09:41 AM |
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Is this the kind of ugly the waning of the B*sh years is going to bring us? |
annabanana |
Jul-30-08 08:10 AM |
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Unfortunately, it's nothing new in this country |
jmondine |
Jul-30-08 12:21 PM |
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Just a continuance |
vanboggie |
Jul-30-08 02:00 PM |
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Granted things happened before that, but it took off full force with the 1963 coup |
defendandprotect |
Jul-30-08 09:06 PM |
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True |
vanboggie |
Jul-30-08 11:22 PM |
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Anyone that knows where |
Enthusiast |
Jul-31-08 05:56 AM |
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Who shoots themself in the chest? |
blogslut |
Jul-30-08 08:10 AM |
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And the weapon was "likely a handgun." |
intheflow |
Jul-30-08 08:21 AM |
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Exactly. Most likely suicide by a military General who shoots himself in chest with a disappearing |
BushDespiser12 |
Jul-31-08 01:59 AM |
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After he shot himself in the chest, he cleverly disappeared the weapon by psychokinesis. |
Impeachment_Monkey |
Jul-31-08 02:14 AM |
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not as common as shots to the head, but hardly unheard of |
onenote |
Jul-30-08 09:06 AM |
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I know of someone who did it. It happens. |
GreenPartyVoter |
Jul-30-08 10:32 AM |
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According to the CDC, 25.6 % of intentional self inflicted gunshot |
Crabby Appleton |
Jul-30-08 04:33 PM |
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A neighbor of my mom's did exactly that about 20 years ago |
slackmaster |
Jul-31-08 01:22 PM |
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Did Any Of These Men Serve In Iraq? |
KharmaTrain |
Jul-30-08 08:11 AM |
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Aide to the General who allowed the nukes to travel cross-country by "accident"... |
Junkdrawer |
Jul-30-08 08:26 AM |
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That's the one that screamed out at me, too. Coincidence theorists will no doubt be along |
blm |
Jul-30-08 11:58 AM |
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They're supposedly still "investigating" that one . . . |
defendandprotect |
Jul-30-08 09:09 PM |
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I didn't know it was the same base ... wow. |
screembloodymurder |
Jul-31-08 04:53 AM |
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Link for Tinsley death, other Minot 'Oddities' |
CLG_News |
Jul-30-08 08:27 AM |
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sigh...was Tinsley (and Mosely) actually stationed at Minot during those 22 months |
mod mom |
Jul-30-08 09:12 AM |
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Pelosi has her crime |
merh |
Jul-30-08 12:02 PM |
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Her and how many others? |
Jim Sagle |
Jul-30-08 11:15 PM |
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All very excellent questions, I must say. As the bodies pile up, it would appear |
Impeachment_Monkey |
Jul-31-08 02:17 AM |
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dupe |
defendandprotect |
Jul-30-08 09:22 PM |
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We still have no idea what might have been going on with nukes --- to be planted somewhere-??? |
defendandprotect |
Jul-30-08 09:23 PM |
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Excellent link!! |
file83 |
Jul-30-08 10:39 PM |
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I just reviewed the CLG site and links. It documents only 4 deaths... |
Peace Patriot |
Jul-31-08 12:47 PM |
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history of depression, suicidality, recent problems? nt |
tomp |
Jul-30-08 08:29 AM |
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Yeah . . . all of them --- !!! |
defendandprotect |
Jul-30-08 09:24 PM |
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BUZZ BUZZ BUZZ BUZZ BUZZ |
Boxerfan |
Jul-30-08 09:05 AM |
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Are you telling me this is related to the "nukes loaded on bomber left for 12 hrs on tarmac" story? |
librechik |
Jul-30-08 09:26 AM |
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was this the aide who took a gun into a federal |
BareNakedLiberal |
Jul-30-08 09:31 AM |
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Different guy. |
blackops |
Jul-30-08 10:18 AM |
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thanks for the info |
BareNakedLiberal |
Aug-01-08 01:51 AM |
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Let The Insane Irrational Conspiracy Theories Begin! |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jul-30-08 09:32 AM |
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Hey, it's not our fault that we are reduced to reading entrails, trying to figure out |
Peace Patriot |
Jul-30-08 12:50 PM |
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Thank you |
frog92969 |
Jul-30-08 09:09 PM |
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so well said. ostensibly we're here to share information and make sense of things. |
nashville_brook |
Jul-30-08 09:30 PM |
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Yes! "There are none so blind as those who will not see." |
puebloknot |
Jul-31-08 01:13 AM |
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Some Tinsley Info |
Chipster |
Jul-31-08 01:57 AM |
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Very very well said. Thank you for taking the time to write & share it. ~nt~ |
Impeachment_Monkey |
Jul-31-08 02:23 AM |
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Excellent, Patriot! |
Enthusiast |
Jul-31-08 06:02 AM |
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Not to mention stealing two presidential elections! nt |
Enthusiast |
Jul-31-08 06:07 AM |
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And this is their MO. |
Enthusiast |
Jul-31-08 06:10 AM |
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Exactly. Anyone who doesn't realize what's going on is a |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Jul-31-08 12:44 PM |
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I wish I could recommend a single response, I'd rec this. |
arcadian |
Jul-31-08 01:05 PM |
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I'm with you |
wicket |
Jul-31-08 02:05 PM |
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I'm with arcadian |
wicket |
Jul-31-08 02:05 PM |
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Well said n/t |
melody |
Aug-01-08 04:43 AM |
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Yea, yer right... |
happydreams |
Jul-30-08 03:20 PM |
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You are a crazy "coincidence" theorist. . . . |
annabanana |
Jul-30-08 04:25 PM |
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Ah yes, enter the stalwart rationalist that can't see shit |
BushDespiser12 |
Jul-31-08 01:48 AM |
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is that just a nice way of saying he's a loudmouth dumbass? |
KG |
Jul-31-08 09:31 AM |
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In one of my musings about 9/11, I said I hoped that someone in the AF who knows what |
Peace Patriot |
Jul-30-08 09:57 AM |
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An AF Brig Gen, intent on suicide, shoots himself in the chest? That's odd. |
Peace Patriot |
Jul-30-08 10:33 AM |
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'An AF Brig Gen, intent on suicide, shoots himself in the chest? |
CLG_News |
Jul-31-08 01:18 PM |
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If Rumsfeld resigned because his "Gulf of Tonkin" for Iran was exposed (by military who |
Peace Patriot |
Jul-30-08 11:22 AM |
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I had assumed w the Minot incident that instead of flying nukes around, |
mod mom |
Jul-30-08 11:45 AM |
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THAT could be motive for offing 6 of those directly involved in the Minot incident. |
Peace Patriot |
Jul-30-08 02:12 PM |
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The links do not support the assertion that there were six deaths. |
screembloodymurder |
Jul-31-08 06:13 AM |
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I agree. 3 at Minot. 1 from FLA base. Maybe some others. Plus Tinsley. |
Peace Patriot |
Jul-31-08 03:03 PM |
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Navy: MoD moves captain in Iran captives affair |
Snazzy |
Jul-31-08 04:49 AM |
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"Conyers: Impeachment If Bush Invades Iran" (the Trade-off you suggest) |
mod mom |
Jul-30-08 11:41 AM |
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Blair told Bush to get his 2 carriers out of the Persian Gulf |
FogerRox |
Jul-30-08 02:58 PM |
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I didn't know that, FogerRox! Do tell--or give me links. Thanks for the info. |
Peace Patriot |
Jul-30-08 08:55 PM |
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Just found one of your posts on this, FogerRox! Am reading. |
Peace Patriot |
Jul-30-08 09:06 PM |
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Brits have more than one reason not to want Iran nuked. Many EU |
jwirr |
Jul-30-08 11:29 PM |
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Well, the miliary tapes make it clear that an ordinary soldier picks this up immediately --- |
defendandprotect |
Jul-30-08 09:31 PM |
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K&R, I recommend this post ! |
AntiFascist |
Jul-31-08 05:13 PM |
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Another article here from Wired, pretty sad, they mention two others. |
chimpsrsmarter |
Jul-30-08 11:39 AM |
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Charles Riechers' autopsy was never released |
Ichingcarpenter |
Jul-30-08 11:44 AM |
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The Wired article mentions Charles Riechers, and I wonder about this one, too. |
Peace Patriot |
Jul-30-08 02:36 PM |
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*kick & r'd! nt |
wildbilln864 |
Jul-30-08 11:48 AM |
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A military man, a general, commits suicide by shooting himself in the TORSO? |
fla nocount |
Jul-30-08 03:16 PM |
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maybe he had a pretty face he didn't want to mess up. |
onenote |
Jul-30-08 04:34 PM |
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The CDC says about 25% people do |
Crabby Appleton |
Jul-30-08 05:32 PM |
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Are those the same 25% that watch Faux and support Bush? |
fla nocount |
Jul-30-08 05:43 PM |
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I wonder what Hutchins was working on? Was he getting to close... |
happydreams |
Jul-30-08 03:18 PM |
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Hutchin's family wants answers.... (article from VA) -- |
Breeze54 |
Jul-30-08 03:56 PM |
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Good update on what the family wants.... thanks n/t |
Ichingcarpenter |
Jul-30-08 04:27 PM |
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I'm glad they're investigating and not calling it a suicide. |
Breeze54 |
Jul-30-08 06:34 PM |
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Whole lot of crazy in thread (nt) |
Medium Baby Jesus |
Jul-30-08 07:54 PM |
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Lots of 'oddities' associated w. the Minot nukes story. n/t |
CLG_News |
Jul-30-08 08:39 PM |
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Welcome to DU, News! |
Olney Blue |
Jul-30-08 09:37 PM |
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There is a freakin war going on folks behind the scenes |
lovuian |
Jul-30-08 08:42 PM |
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"There is a freakin war going on folks behind the scenes" |
nikto |
Jul-30-08 11:42 PM |
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The regime backs out shooting. It has to. Look for much more of this. |
DemoTex |
Jul-30-08 08:45 PM |
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Cheney hasn't been seen in public... |
BushDespiser12 |
Jul-31-08 01:32 AM |
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Cheney.. the last thing you ever see? |
SoCalDem |
Jul-31-08 01:36 AM |
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That is priceless" |
BushDespiser12 |
Jul-31-08 02:06 AM |
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Wow . . . that's a lotta stuff . . .!!!! Two more "suicides," right --- ??? |
defendandprotect |
Jul-30-08 09:00 PM |
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are they killing off the witnesses to the B52 Bomber |
lovuian |
Jul-30-08 09:12 PM |
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Another local news story on Hutchins - was outside car when found - early morning death |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-30-08 10:16 PM |
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MURDER, plain & simple. CUI BONO? |
nikto |
Jul-30-08 11:09 PM |
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What's your evidence? |
MonkeyFunk |
Jul-31-08 01:37 AM |
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Evidence? We don't need no steenkin' evidence! |
Common Sense Party |
Jul-31-08 02:31 AM |
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So, explain this to me, without some creative thinking... |
Peace Patriot |
Jul-31-08 09:37 AM |
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You are a bastion of sanity for me, Peace Patriot. |
BushDespiser12 |
Jul-31-08 11:35 AM |
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Just some supporting evidence about how secretive the Nazis were: |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Jul-31-08 01:00 PM |
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That is one brilliant post |
malaise |
Aug-01-08 04:53 AM |
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Updated story |
electricmonk |
Jul-31-08 03:06 AM |
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There's been an upsurge in crime around these parts. |
sofa king |
Jul-31-08 03:28 AM |
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and let's not forget the many US soldiers who have allegedly died by their own hand |
Connonym |
Jul-31-08 04:23 AM |
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People *ARE* basically good. It's the minority in whom socialization doesn't "take" |
bean fidhleir |
Jul-31-08 03:52 PM |
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Everyone here was shocked about Tinsley. |
Blue_In_AK |
Jul-31-08 12:56 PM |
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There is obviously plenty of fodder here for a CT. |
SidneyCarton |
Jul-31-08 01:04 PM |
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Cheney did it |
AngryAmish |
Jul-31-08 02:05 PM |
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The 'Hits' just keep on coming: |
MinM |
Aug-05-08 09:33 AM |
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