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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 06:00 AM
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22. You would be surprised at how many people don't know how to cook.
Honestly, many young women (not to just isolate and highlight women, but many are still head of household and/or in charge of the family's food pantry and grocery shopping) do not know how to cook. One young lady I met at a job I worked years ago was inordinately impressed by another coworker's leftover lunches. "How did you know how to make that?" was a constant question. It turns out that she and her family ate take-out and McD's outside of the once in awhile spaghetti dinner or home prepared frozen dinners (frozen chicken patties, fried chicken, hamburgers etc.). It was not a surprise the entire family was obese.

My friend explained to her she learned how to make these different dishes growing up in an impoverished farm home. They didn't have the money for prepared foods at the supermarket. She gave her a few recipes for her casseroles. Also, I'd like to point out that this young lady was working in the lowest paid position in the clinic.

Teaching people how to cook everyday food, everyday budget meals is the key to increasing the participation at farmer's markets and healthier diets. Teaching people that there are choices and how far you can go with some choices over others is very liberating. My brother's gf grew up in an relatively poor minority neighborhood in Detroit and her cooking is reminiscent of that background. Much of what she makes is fried or heavy with high fat content. However, even there, she only cooks at home (prepares and eats) three days a week . She works 4 days a week and attends graduate classes on the 5th day. In the past 4 years she has literally gained 100 pounds.

To be sure, when I grocery shop for a family of three and am purchasing enough food for a week; I mostly hit the produce, dairy and meat aisles and barely every purchase frozen or prepared foods. My grocery bill is almost always over $125 easily. When I shop at Aldi's it is a bit lower but then I do have to compromise on food quality (chicken breasts are processed and many times they do not have what it is I need for my menu meals).

For people who are stuggling with planning meals with healthy ingredients and feel that they lack time in to prepare healthful meals, please check out Leanne Ely's Saving Dinner books--she even has one that outlines simple meal preparation techniques for those that grew up eating out of takeout boxes. She has a subscription service that gives you seasonal appropriate meal plans every week that caters to your general palate called Menu Mailers. I receive the Lo-Carb menu but you can utilize any menu once subscribed. It is very rare to have any meal take longer than 15- 20 minutes of prep time. Last night I had a Chicken CrockPot with peppers and tomatoes, the night before we had a Cajun Pork dish. Each week has a crock pot meal and a fish based meal. She also has vegetarian menu mailers. Each provides a shop list and suggestions for breakfast and lunches. It takes at least 2 hours of planning off my to do list. She also has an email newsletter. I highly recommend her stuff. Saving Dinner Usual disclaimers apply.


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  -LA blocks new fast-food outlets from poor areas dkf  Jul-30-08 02:50 AM   #0 
  - this is AT LEAST the 3rd time this story has been posted fwiw.  aspergris   Jul-30-08 03:02 AM   #1 
  - And I'm tired of shortsighted libertarians who don't understand land use planning  depakid   Jul-30-08 03:07 AM   #2 
     - oh noes  aspergris   Jul-30-08 03:16 AM   #3 
        - If the shoe fits...  depakid   Jul-30-08 03:47 AM   #4 
        - wow. a self serving statement that supports what i said  aspergris   Jul-30-08 04:09 AM   #7 
           - You persist in being disingenious  depakid   Jul-30-08 04:22 AM   #9 
              - and YOU persist in being disingenuous AND missing the point  aspergris   Jul-30-08 04:31 AM   #10 
                 - Excellent points!  madeline_con   Jul-30-08 04:46 AM   #11 
                 - #1 and #2 assume that the McDonalds exists in a vacuum with this community  Chulanowa   Jul-30-08 05:32 AM   #17 
                    - omg  aspergris   Jul-30-08 05:41 AM   #18 
                       - Limiting government power is one thing.  Chulanowa   Jul-30-08 01:27 PM   #29 
        - No this is putting community over corporation.  Luminous Animal   Jul-30-08 04:03 AM   #5 
        - Actually, it DOES prevent healthier choices  Chulanowa   Jul-30-08 05:28 AM   #16 
        - riiiight  aspergris   Jul-30-08 06:07 AM   #24 
           - Yes, I am right  Chulanowa   Jul-30-08 01:19 PM   #28 
        - It's interesting. I have a summer house in the Door Peninsula in Wisconsin  CTyankee   Jul-30-08 02:53 PM   #33 
  - Thats great let the rich stay fat while the poor starve.  MiltonF   Jul-30-08 04:08 AM   #6 
  - also noted  aspergris   Jul-30-08 04:15 AM   #8 
     - Because sugar and fat filled food is cheap.  madeline_con   Jul-30-08 04:48 AM   #12 
     - this is true  aspergris   Jul-30-08 04:57 AM   #13 
        - The fact that many families have a single head of household  madeline_con   Jul-30-08 05:00 AM   #14 
           - that is sadly  aspergris   Jul-30-08 05:04 AM   #15 
              - And the people whose choices you condemn have crockpots?  eridani   Jul-30-08 05:53 AM   #20 
              - i';m not condemning anybody's choices  aspergris   Jul-30-08 05:59 AM   #21 
                 - Yeah, right. People "choose" three crappy minimum wage jobs  eridani   Jul-30-08 06:25 AM   #26 
                    - again  aspergris   Jul-30-08 06:38 AM   #27 
                       - Ah yes. Fuck the poor, they made their choices  Chulanowa   Jul-30-08 01:40 PM   #30 
                       - There may be other factors at work here.  madeline_con   Jul-30-08 01:50 PM   #31 
                       - Fat is a result of living in a society where most jobs are sedentary  eridani   Jul-30-08 05:02 PM   #34 
                       - You don't get it. Some people are just too fucking stupid to know what they should eat.  fl410   Jul-30-08 05:15 PM   #35 
              - You would be surprised at how many people don't know how to cook.  eilen   Jul-30-08 06:00 AM   #22 
                 - no, i wouldn't  aspergris   Jul-30-08 06:09 AM   #25 
     - Have you considered that if you have only a hotplate and no refrigerator--  eridani   Jul-30-08 05:52 AM   #19 
        - i have  aspergris   Jul-30-08 06:01 AM   #23 
  - They'd do better to block liquor stores and to improve job markets and social services.  Peake   Jul-30-08 01:51 PM   #32 
 

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