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| 120. Just a note unrelated to topic, but thought I would share. LOL |
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Everytime I'm about to get into some flame ass war, someone kicks up one of your enlightening threads and the war is off. LOL Thanks Octafish! Carry on!  and back to your thread to read now. |
| -How Should the Next President Deal with the Bush White House's Crimes? |
Octafish |
Jul-26-08 11:41 AM |
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K&R |
Solly Mack |
Jul-26-08 11:44 AM |
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Truth and Reconciliation Commission? |
Octafish |
Jul-26-08 12:59 PM |
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That would have to involve the victims of America's crimes, yes? |
Solly Mack |
Jul-26-08 04:37 PM |
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Excellent points, Solly Mack. |
Octafish |
Jul-26-08 09:40 PM |
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The full truth can come out in a trial |
Solly Mack |
Jul-27-08 08:27 AM |
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Truth Commissions are only appropriate in post civil-war situations, when trials would spark |
leveymg |
Jul-27-08 06:00 AM |
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Weak. that;s not NEARLY enough. |
Phred42 |
Jul-27-08 08:20 AM |
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We Prefer Truth and Consequences! |
Demeter |
Jul-27-08 11:55 AM |
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Hang the bastards! nt |
tmfun |
Jul-26-08 11:46 AM |
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The Rosenbergs got the electric chair in 1953. |
Octafish |
Jul-26-08 01:03 PM |
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indicte, imprison.......... |
PDJane |
Jul-26-08 11:46 AM |
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Gov. Siegelman would make an excellent Special Prosecutor. |
Octafish |
Jul-26-08 01:13 PM |
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Try them for treason and execute those who are found guilty |
tularetom |
Jul-26-08 11:49 AM |
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Speaking of goats... |
Octafish |
Jul-26-08 09:49 PM |
#74 |
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as a traditionalist, I kind of like tar and feathers, myself |
wordpix |
Jul-27-08 08:19 AM |
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By Impeaching Nancy Pelocy for not doing her constitutional duty |
FreakinDJ |
Jul-26-08 11:49 AM |
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Pelosi cannot be impeached. |
Thothmes |
Jul-26-08 07:02 PM |
#63 |
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Can you clarify? In Friday's hearing "around" impeachment ... |
puebloknot |
Jul-27-08 02:44 AM |
#87 |
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Maybe someone doesn't know what they're talking about |
madokie |
Jul-27-08 06:51 AM |
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Yes. John Dean wrote an article pointing to the possible "wisdom" ... |
puebloknot |
Jul-27-08 02:42 PM |
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Because there's already a process in the Constitution for Members of Congress: |
NYC Liberal |
Jul-27-08 10:46 AM |
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Please do elaborate on the expulsion process you speak of. |
puebloknot |
Jul-27-08 02:54 PM |
#134 |
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You don't know about expelling a member of Congress? |
NYC Liberal |
Jul-27-08 03:31 PM |
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It won't happen. And if it *were* undertaken ... |
puebloknot |
Jul-28-08 06:59 PM |
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It's public record just like anything else |
NYC Liberal |
Jul-29-08 09:25 AM |
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Perhaps what we need to do is show her what we're talking about... |
Octafish |
Jul-26-08 10:00 PM |
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great link. thanks. but I doubt that Nanci would |
bbgrunt |
Jul-27-08 08:52 AM |
#107 |
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K&R |
lynettebro440 |
Jul-26-08 11:54 AM |
#6 |
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Bush-Cheney crony got Iraq oil deal |
Octafish |
Jul-26-08 10:29 PM |
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off to the greatest page you go! K & enthusiastically R'd!!! |
peacebird |
Jul-26-08 11:55 AM |
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He should investigate for a while, then begin prosecution 8-9 months before midterm elections. |
anonymous171 |
Jul-26-08 11:57 AM |
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Greenwald for AG |
IDemo |
Jul-26-08 12:00 PM |
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Investigate |
bigwillq |
Jul-26-08 12:02 PM |
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i hope that everyone realizes that NOTHING is going to be done to/about the cheney misadministration |
QuestionAll |
Jul-26-08 12:04 PM |
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I wouldn't even bet a cold cup of coffee against that. |
exothermic |
Jul-26-08 12:14 PM |
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Sad but True |
FreakinDJ |
Jul-26-08 12:15 PM |
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Absolutely. |
Blue_In_AK |
Jul-26-08 12:31 PM |
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I know, you all keep saying that, but after yesterday, I have reason to think otherwise. |
Independent_Liberal |
Jul-26-08 02:07 PM |
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why is that? |
QuestionAll |
Jul-26-08 07:22 PM |
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Perhaps I'm a bit of an optimist, but... |
Independent_Liberal |
Jul-26-08 08:19 PM |
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i do disagree. |
QuestionAll |
Jul-26-08 08:41 PM |
#67 |
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they market the "Democrat vs. Republican" sports team imagery |
datasuspect |
Jul-26-08 03:54 PM |
#56 |
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First off, let's not repeat the mistakes of the past |
Canuckistanian |
Jul-26-08 12:08 PM |
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I'm hoping for the Hague, myself. |
intheflow |
Jul-26-08 12:11 PM |
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The question is "will" not "should." If it's a Republican, nothing. If it's a Democrat, |
exothermic |
Jul-26-08 12:14 PM |
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Urge Congress to do its job nt |
LiberalEsto |
Jul-26-08 12:17 PM |
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Turn all docs over the Den Haage. and let them weigh in. Or name the jerks as "enemy combatants" & |
elehhhhna |
Jul-26-08 12:24 PM |
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Put them all in prison. If we don't, they'll do this again. They'll be back |
Joanne98 |
Jul-26-08 12:29 PM |
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They'll be back and in the Congressional Ethics Office like Porter Goss. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-26-08 01:08 PM |
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Oh I know! That's so depressing. |
Joanne98 |
Jul-26-08 01:53 PM |
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They should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law |
Blue_In_AK |
Jul-26-08 12:30 PM |
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There won't be anything dealt with it seems. |
mmonk |
Jul-26-08 01:07 PM |
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Are we sure that crimes have been committed? |
slipslidingaway |
Jul-26-08 01:16 PM |
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If Democratic party leaders say there is some question |
mmonk |
Jul-26-08 01:18 PM |
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Well then there must not have been, maybe they were just really |
slipslidingaway |
Jul-26-08 01:34 PM |
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I was kidding. Of course there were clear crimes |
mmonk |
Jul-26-08 01:44 PM |
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Except that at least one leader in our party is not sure if crimes |
slipslidingaway |
Jul-26-08 02:16 PM |
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I know. |
mmonk |
Jul-26-08 02:42 PM |
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OK and Cass Sunstein for Supreme court??? |
slipslidingaway |
Jul-26-08 03:03 PM |
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Let's hope your update is true it's not certain. |
mmonk |
Jul-26-08 03:14 PM |
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Yes, here is the embedded link to the National Journal article, |
slipslidingaway |
Jul-26-08 03:18 PM |
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Disturbing. |
mmonk |
Jul-26-08 03:24 PM |
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:(( n/t |
slipslidingaway |
Jul-26-08 03:37 PM |
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this is NOT a good sign. I share your :((( and raise you a (. |
bbgrunt |
Jul-27-08 09:01 AM |
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:)))) Agree and posting the links below as a reference for later... |
slipslidingaway |
Jul-27-08 11:40 AM |
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The bright line is intent |
realpolitik |
Jul-27-08 12:08 PM |
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I'll bet you $1000 that he does exactly what Clinton did, nothing. |
greyhound1966 |
Jul-26-08 01:28 PM |
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I wouldn't take you up on that bet. |
happydreams |
Jul-26-08 01:33 PM |
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You do have to watch what you say around here sometimes. n/t |
Blue_In_AK |
Jul-26-08 02:00 PM |
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"watch what you say".... |
happydreams |
Jul-27-08 04:57 PM |
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"Crimes" is the key word. "rule of law" Follow where the clues lead |
Fuzz |
Jul-26-08 01:31 PM |
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Bill Hicks had it right |
RufusTFirefly |
Jul-26-08 01:33 PM |
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Yes, Bill Hicks did have it right. Watch. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-27-08 01:43 AM |
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Reminds me of ... |
flashl |
Jul-27-08 08:39 AM |
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Precisely. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-27-08 09:55 AM |
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Cass Sunstein lifts the tent for the camel's nose |
bleever |
Jul-26-08 01:38 PM |
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Do you have a reason to believe we should remain |
Pastiche423 |
Jul-26-08 06:21 PM |
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Yes, |
bleever |
Jul-27-08 01:42 AM |
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That's not what I meant. |
Pastiche423 |
Jul-27-08 04:09 AM |
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I guess my view is that we should push for him to do the right thing, |
bleever |
Jul-27-08 01:34 PM |
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I believe you are right |
Pastiche423 |
Jul-27-08 01:53 PM |
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bleever, Bill clinton was a very smart fellow as well but sold out our rule of law |
mod mom |
Jul-27-08 09:01 AM |
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I agree, mod mom. |
bleever |
Jul-27-08 01:31 PM |
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Bush and Cheney need to be turned over to the ICC. |
Usrename |
Jul-26-08 01:43 PM |
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I agree that our courts AND our political leaders |
bbgrunt |
Jul-27-08 09:18 AM |
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Two words |
sellitman |
Jul-26-08 02:01 PM |
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And then we have no grassroots movement who is writing to Congress or the press about this matter |
TheBorealAvenger |
Jul-26-08 02:11 PM |
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Rendition Flights To Gitmo |
Me. |
Jul-26-08 02:15 PM |
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They also have the right to hang themselves for dessert making it their last meal |
mmonk |
Jul-26-08 03:50 PM |
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I wish Glenn Greenwald (whom I respect) wouldn't call it the Iran-Contra scandal. |
ArbustoBuster |
Jul-26-08 02:15 PM |
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And I agree with you. |
Enthusiast |
Jul-27-08 09:18 AM |
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Bruce Fein and Glen Greenwald on Cass Sunstein and more... |
slipslidingaway |
Jul-26-08 02:56 PM |
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WTF?...so according to Cass Sunstein, * can get away with violating the constitution as long as he |
mod mom |
Jul-26-08 02:57 PM |
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Sunstein is beginning to give me nightmares. |
bbgrunt |
Jul-27-08 09:23 AM |
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I agree. Investigate and prosecute and sentence the guilty and RESTORE |
Overseas |
Jul-26-08 03:17 PM |
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Prosecute |
Prophet 451 |
Jul-26-08 03:47 PM |
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Ray Of Hope |
Me. |
Jul-26-08 04:00 PM |
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We already have a process for dealing with them, impeachment. |
Edweird |
Jul-26-08 04:55 PM |
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While it's fun to dream, here's the reality. |
JNelson6563 |
Jul-26-08 06:36 PM |
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Investigation, prosecution, revocation of citizenship, ostracism. |
sofa king |
Jul-26-08 06:42 PM |
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Investigate all the way back to the Y2K selections. |
lpbk2713 |
Jul-26-08 07:06 PM |
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. |
mopinko |
Jul-26-08 08:43 PM |
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Your Images Are My Dreams |
Care |
Jul-27-08 02:12 AM |
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Arrest, Indict, Prosecute, Imprison |
dpbrown |
Jul-26-08 08:55 PM |
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Kick n/t |
bonito |
Jul-26-08 09:11 PM |
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In a "One Party" political system, with two right wings, like the one we have.... |
host |
Jul-26-08 09:15 PM |
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Have every single person |
norepubsin08 |
Jul-26-08 09:24 PM |
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Subpoenas, Hearings, Indictments, Trials, Verdicts |
specimenfred1984 |
Jul-26-08 09:50 PM |
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If I Had My Way |
Care |
Jul-27-08 02:14 AM |
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The Same Obama that voted for FISA & Telco amnesty and calls it "the war on terror"? |
host |
Jul-27-08 02:34 AM |
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No, The Obama That Will Be President. |
Care |
Jul-27-08 11:45 AM |
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Moyer's has said what many still fear to say |
sattahipdeep |
Jul-27-08 12:21 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jul-27-08 07:43 PM |
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Seppuku. |
jmowreader |
Jul-26-08 10:10 PM |
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Save on prison space |
wial |
Jul-27-08 01:39 AM |
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Nice :) |
diane in sf |
Jul-27-08 03:37 AM |
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executive order |
leftofthedial |
Jul-27-08 01:57 AM |
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Two words... |
ImForGore |
Jul-27-08 02:09 AM |
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Did these a few years back.... |
JawJaw |
Jul-27-08 02:51 AM |
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"Suicides" and "Accidents" |
frog92969 |
Jul-27-08 03:01 AM |
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Thoroughly and severely--psychopaths have no conscience so it would be very |
diane in sf |
Jul-27-08 03:30 AM |
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If McCain Gets in there ..It Ain't Gonna Happen.. |
Razorblade02 |
Jul-27-08 06:39 AM |
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Maybe its time to invest in rope making |
madokie |
Jul-27-08 06:49 AM |
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And no pardons!! |
Herdin_Cats |
Jul-27-08 06:54 AM |
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What I think will happen |
Tab |
Jul-27-08 08:10 AM |
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first we need to IMPEACH BUSH before he PARDONS everyone else |
wordpix |
Jul-27-08 08:17 AM |
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Exactly! |
Phred42 |
Jul-27-08 08:20 AM |
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What if it goes back to big Swiss banks? |
Festivito |
Jul-27-08 08:22 AM |
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Should a Bear shit in the woods? |
Phred42 |
Jul-27-08 08:26 AM |
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They all should be prosecuted, but... |
totodeinhere |
Jul-27-08 09:36 AM |
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"Corruption in public office is treason." |
formercia |
Jul-27-08 09:51 AM |
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what SHOULD be done ... or what MIGHT to be done? |
Martin Eden |
Jul-27-08 10:26 AM |
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Dems don't have the guts to pursue Impeachment |
cyclezealot |
Jul-27-08 10:37 AM |
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Prosecute and convict Bushco, then send them |
anotheryellowdog |
Jul-27-08 11:21 AM |
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Just a note unrelated to topic, but thought I would share. LOL |
lonestarnot |
Jul-27-08 11:23 AM |
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And they stand to be held accountable just like every defendant when sentence is passed! |
lonestarnot |
Jul-27-08 11:27 AM |
#121 |
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"Corruption in public office is treason." |
realpolitik |
Jul-27-08 11:56 AM |
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criminalizing policy disputes |
klyon |
Jul-27-08 12:19 PM |
#127 |
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Don't get sucked into that sick web. |
cleveramerican |
Jul-27-08 02:21 PM |
#132 |
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"Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it." |
puebloknot |
Jul-27-08 03:07 PM |
#135 |
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there are a limited number of things any president can accomplish |
cleveramerican |
Jul-28-08 04:28 PM |
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"Hope and change" fashioned out of brushing criminality under the rug? |
puebloknot |
Jul-29-08 04:18 AM |
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it really is an either/or proposition |
cleveramerican |
Jul-29-08 02:36 PM |
#145 |
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Which is why, if your math is correct, there is a *reason* ... |
puebloknot |
Jul-29-08 06:30 PM |
#146 |
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Cart 'em off to Gitmo sans charge or trail, placing former inmates |
DailyGrind51 |
Jul-27-08 04:19 PM |
#137 |
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if nothing is done to put these criminals in prison |
blues90 |
Jul-27-08 05:01 PM |
#139 |
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