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| 79. Fortunate Son author didn't sound suicidal, but somehow... |
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quit moving and talking anyhow. When I heard this interview in 2003, I said wow, W's cooked. Then at the end Goodman said Hatfied was found dead of an apparent suicide in 2001: Democracy Now! Premieres the Full Interview with Bush Biographer J.H. Hatfield Who Died 2 Years Ago of an Alleged Suicide Amidst Controversy Over his Book Fortunate Son Today we play an interview that we have held for over three years. It involves allegations of President Bush, drugs, obstruction of justice and corporate scandal. It raises questions about why Bush’s driver license number was changed. In the book Fortunate Son: George W. Bush and the Making of an American President author J.H. Hatfield charges that President Bush was arrested in 1972 for cocaine possession and that Bush’s father George Sr. used his political connections to have his son’s record expunged. http://www.democracynow.org/2003/8/11/democracy_now_pre... |
| -DOJ Lawyers: "Lunatics Had Taken Over The Country" They Feared Cheney & Feared For Their Lives |
kpete |
Jul-26-08 11:26 AM |
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breaking: doj lawyers were a bunch of chickenshit enablers...did NOTHING when they could |
spanone |
Jul-26-08 11:29 AM |
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Not quite |
Warpy |
Jul-26-08 11:47 AM |
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... but the MAJORITY kept their jobs . . . only 8 out of 100 were fired ....... |
defendandprotect |
Jul-26-08 12:01 PM |
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And one was killed, er, died under suspicious circumstances, IIRC. |
NCevilDUer |
Jul-26-08 09:06 PM |
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So many that I can only .... |
defendandprotect |
Jul-26-08 11:26 PM |
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I believe that probating wills requires membership in the bar. |
ArbustoBuster |
Jul-26-08 02:26 PM |
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They'll make great jailhouse lawyers, filing appeals and stays of execution written in pencil. |
leveymg |
Jul-27-08 06:08 AM |
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That's not funny. |
crikkett |
Jul-27-08 09:13 AM |
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And you are right on! |
Enthusiast |
Jul-28-08 01:56 PM |
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How many of you spend your days believing you and your family are under a constant threat? |
JulieRB |
Jul-26-08 02:53 PM |
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You're the chicken shit. Words are cheap. Some female lawyers have already been murdered. |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Jul-26-08 03:29 PM |
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I can not remember all of pieces of their stories, what were they investigating? nt |
flashl |
Jul-26-08 04:28 PM |
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I'm not at all sure now. But I have a feeling it was the politicization |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Jul-26-08 06:49 PM |
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I remember the dead person you've mentioned: Ray Lemme. Fatal acquaintance with Rep. Speaker of |
Judi Lynn |
Jul-27-08 01:06 AM |
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The mills of God grind slow... |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Jul-27-08 11:12 AM |
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FYI. The two US Attys deaths I vaguely remembered were linked Medicare and Medicaid fraud case. |
flashl |
Jul-28-08 01:28 PM |
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I agree. Walk a mile. I have been harassed until I thought I would |
roguevalley |
Jul-26-08 04:57 PM |
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Well, you'll be a hero of mine, as long as I remember that name. |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Jul-26-08 06:51 PM |
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life can be hard and shades of grey. I wish it were different. |
roguevalley |
Jul-26-08 07:59 PM |
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It's a very spiritual position to be in. To act in good faith, when you're in an |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Jul-27-08 11:10 AM |
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I'll bet it was the one who went to the hospital to see Ashcroft |
notadmblnd |
Jul-26-08 11:39 AM |
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Comey came to mind right away for me. |
speedoo |
Jul-26-08 01:20 PM |
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and Jack Goldsmith. Here's an extract from Jeff Rosen's NYT article: |
leveymg |
Jul-27-08 06:21 AM |
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Rec 5 |
helderheid |
Jul-26-08 11:41 AM |
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They were smart not to stand up to Cheney -- he murders people |
melody |
Jul-26-08 11:44 AM |
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Absolutely agree --- we have failed to acknowledge the political |
defendandprotect |
Jul-26-08 12:02 PM |
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Paul Wellstone was almost certainly a Bush/Cheney victim |
melody |
Jul-26-08 06:05 PM |
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Absolutely . . . |
defendandprotect |
Jul-26-08 06:32 PM |
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I wouldn't be surprised. n/t |
melody |
Jul-26-08 06:47 PM |
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Ted Kennedy? |
NBachers |
Jul-26-08 08:53 PM |
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JFK Jr goes without saying, imo n/t |
melody |
Jul-26-08 10:19 PM |
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Yes . . . I have .. . |
defendandprotect |
Jul-26-08 11:16 PM |
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Agreed - but not just Cheney, his little pet monkey is vicious too. nt |
glitch |
Jul-26-08 12:06 PM |
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That is a true characterization, right there. |
yardwork |
Jul-26-08 05:13 PM |
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Only after the Pretzel visited, when he had his attitude adjusted. n/t |
fla nocount |
Jul-26-08 05:38 PM |
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Absolutely but the topic wasn't Bush -- the Bush family is Murder Inc. n/t |
melody |
Jul-26-08 06:06 PM |
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Topic Cheney = Topic Bush, and vice versa. They are both deeply emeshed with the Texas Mafia |
glitch |
Jul-26-08 09:45 PM |
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They are when the topic is both of them. This topic was on Cheney |
melody |
Jul-26-08 10:19 PM |
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Bingo |
RufusTFirefly |
Jul-26-08 01:17 PM |
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The ones who are killed are also the ones they can't buy off/intimidate |
melody |
Jul-26-08 06:12 PM |
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Right....who do you think mailed the |
femrap |
Jul-26-08 02:04 PM |
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Exactly |
melody |
Jul-26-08 06:03 PM |
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If he is bad he must go. The American people deserve better. |
bambino |
Jul-26-08 07:26 PM |
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Or at least blows buckshot in your face. And then expects an apology from you. |
bulloney |
Jul-26-08 07:34 PM |
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And he shoots friends in the face just for fun! |
PuraVidaDreamin |
Jul-27-08 06:08 AM |
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Why isn't this heappening more often? |
Canuckistanian |
Jul-26-08 11:46 AM |
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Anyone who pays attention to history knows that communications are subject to interception. |
Fumesucker |
Jul-26-08 05:34 PM |
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This intimidation, blackmail, and extortion is the greatest reason |
BushDespiser12 |
Jul-26-08 11:50 AM |
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This needs to be on the front page of DU |
helderheid |
Jul-26-08 11:52 AM |
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And yet, even people like Nadler, who says outright that these criminals |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-26-08 11:55 AM |
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Watched Nadler yesterday and he said he had previously been against . . . |
defendandprotect |
Jul-26-08 11:59 AM |
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Nadler, Conyers, Waxman, Watt, Jackon Lee, Wexler -- |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-26-08 12:09 PM |
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Forget if Nadler gave a reason for not wanting to go -- but hope he's ready now-!! |
defendandprotect |
Jul-26-08 06:40 PM |
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Thats because he is scared too |
NNN0LHI |
Jul-26-08 01:31 PM |
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He should be scared. I'm doing some research on Porter Goss |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-26-08 02:42 PM |
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Ah Pelosi opens the closet of weasels |
truedelphi |
Jul-26-08 04:50 PM |
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Of Course. We really are Guatemala, just on a bigger scale. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-27-08 12:08 AM |
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Operation 40 was headed by Nixon . . . and Pelosi is shocking -- !!! |
defendandprotect |
Jul-26-08 06:53 PM |
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I know. It's a through line. Porter Gosss has been Poppy's jogging buddy |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-26-08 10:52 PM |
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Re Goss . .. |
defendandprotect |
Jul-26-08 11:11 PM |
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Could also be that Bay of Pigs offshoot, Dallas. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-26-08 11:18 PM |
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I'm worried more . . . |
defendandprotect |
Jul-26-08 11:23 PM |
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Went to my library the other day looking for the book -- it's on order . . . |
defendandprotect |
Jul-26-08 11:56 AM |
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And they are absolutely correct. |
glitch |
Jul-26-08 12:05 PM |
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LARTA. |
CJCRANE |
Jul-26-08 12:20 PM |
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Please stop demeaning Asylum dwellers |
nolabels |
Jul-26-08 08:59 PM |
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K & R |
jazzy062 |
Jul-26-08 12:26 PM |
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Kudos to Bill Moyers for a fine interview segment. Just when I thought |
coalition_unwilling |
Jul-26-08 02:37 PM |
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The vast Criminality of the Busholini Regime is staggering. |
Disturbed |
Jul-26-08 03:39 PM |
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my god... |
shanti |
Jul-27-08 02:03 AM |
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Good to have Mayer's compilation of this information. |
Overseas |
Jul-26-08 03:39 PM |
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yes |
shanti |
Jul-27-08 02:04 AM |
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Boosh's DOJ ... |
flashl |
Jul-26-08 03:44 PM |
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They had good reason to be scared ..... Raymond Lemme |
Botany |
Jul-26-08 04:31 PM |
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We tried to tell them in 2001 didn't we? |
Hubert Flottz |
Jul-26-08 05:19 PM |
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When I watched Moyers' program last night, and as I read the last paragraph of your O.P. |
Uncle Joe |
Jul-26-08 05:45 PM |
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Just a tad. Sounds like the Onion, doesn't it? |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Jul-26-08 06:57 PM |
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I did what I usually do with stuff like this. Bookmarked it AND emailed it to myself |
calimary |
Jul-26-08 05:49 PM |
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Does anyone here really think Cheney et al will give up power quietly? |
faygokid |
Jul-26-08 05:51 PM |
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I fear you're right |
skepticscott |
Jul-26-08 06:38 PM |
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agree |
ensho |
Jul-27-08 10:21 AM |
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Based on what I"ve heard for a long time and also what is being posted here it's not hard to |
bertman |
Jul-26-08 06:37 PM |
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Didn't Pelosi's husband show up at the Grove earlier this month? |
merh |
Jul-27-08 12:00 AM |
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really..... |
shanti |
Jul-27-08 02:08 AM |
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check the dungeon for any discussion here |
merh |
Jul-27-08 09:06 AM |
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Re: "They did not put up a fight. And that is a tragedy." |
anotheryellowdog |
Jul-27-08 01:10 AM |
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This thread reminds me of another story that transpired during George HW Bush's presidency. |
bertman |
Jul-26-08 06:56 PM |
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I don't think I could have really got a more or less true impression of Meese, if |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Jul-26-08 07:02 PM |
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Hunter Thompson - another "suicide" -nt |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Jul-26-08 07:06 PM |
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Yes, you wonder, don't you? Even if it was a technical suicide in the sense |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Jul-27-08 11:00 AM |
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this is what I have been thinking |
klyon |
Jul-26-08 07:30 PM |
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I can't blame them. Many times when you stand up to psychopaths, you get... |
Triana |
Jul-26-08 08:44 PM |
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My neutered dogs have more balls than these wimps |
Holly_Hobby |
Jul-26-08 09:11 PM |
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"Why didn't they call a press conference or two?" Newsflash: the press belongs to RW |
live love laugh |
Jul-26-08 10:14 PM |
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live love laugh, while I understand your sentiments about the RW owning the press, having |
bertman |
Jul-26-08 10:51 PM |
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Shakers in fear and movers silenced by the big sleep. Dems outgunned. |
azul |
Jul-26-08 11:13 PM |
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The dem leadership bringing this up would be met with same deaf ear by the press. nt |
live love laugh |
Jul-27-08 02:08 AM |
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Press conferences have been had |
merh |
Jul-27-08 12:03 AM |
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And that's my point, too. A...."A" press conference alone is nothing. Whether the media |
live love laugh |
Jul-27-08 02:06 AM |
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And, as much as I hate to say this, since Pelosi took impeachment off the table, the MSM |
bertman |
Jul-27-08 11:51 AM |
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And how can we assume that these threats and tactics |
libnnc |
Jul-26-08 10:41 PM |
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K&R |
DeepModem Mom |
Jul-26-08 11:17 PM |
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Fortunate Son author didn't sound suicidal, but somehow... |
azul |
Jul-26-08 11:22 PM |
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Weren't some of the DOJ attorneys fired when they refused to participate |
csziggy |
Jul-26-08 11:38 PM |
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What I Find Most Disgusting |
lilyannerose |
Jul-26-08 11:38 PM |
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I am really starting to believe that Pelosi and Reid |
FKA MNChimpH8R |
Jul-27-08 12:20 AM |
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MARCH INTO THE WHITE HOUSE AND ARREST THE CRIMINALS. |
Zhade |
Jul-27-08 01:09 AM |
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Only Impeachment Can Stop This Terrorism Of Americans |
Senator |
Jul-27-08 09:31 AM |
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The Republican Party in the Democratic Party - the players are |
higher class |
Jul-27-08 09:35 AM |
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She's got a very good book. I have one problem with it though... |
Joanne98 |
Jul-27-08 09:42 AM |
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them, and the whole of congress...apparently. |
QuestionAll |
Jul-28-08 01:33 PM |
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Just finished the book |
LibFromWV |
Jul-28-08 01:37 PM |
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