Reply #53: They have been using FEAR ceaselessly in our own country . . ..

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DO YOU NOT RECALL THAT IMMEDIATELY YOU SAW PEOPLE BEING ABUSED AT GUANTANAMO . . . ?
PEOPLE DEPRIVED OF ALL SENSORY SENSATION WITH ORANGE JUMP SUITS, GOGGLES ON EYES,
SOUND BLOCKING FOR EARS -- MITTENS ON HANDS. YOU KNEW IMMEDIATELY WHAT WAS HAPPENING...
DID YOU NOT?

Think of our prisons with more than 2.5 million --- ?
And our own prisoners are trying to get the message out saying they are being tortured in
these same ways.
That's a threat to you whether you understand it or not --

Drug War -- traffic stops where you can be intimidated into letting them search your car --
any police officer could "throw down" a drug parcel or a weapon.
That's a threat to you whether you feel it or not ---

Methods used against political protesters - anti-war groups --- spying on them --
roughing them up -- holding them in prison longer than usual -- not feeding them --
or providing rancid foods ---
NETTING THEM IN . . . . including people in wheelchairs, children in strollers ---
Forcing protesters into PENS . . . !
That's a threat to you and your freedom whether you get it or not ---


So . . . when it comes to torture we're all aware of the history of torture ---
so are they. The people in Nixon's White House were studying NAZI propaganda films.
Tens of thousands of NAZIs were brought into America at the end of WWII and became
founding members of our CIA - and took up positions in our FBI and NASA.
With families I think the number was almost 70,000.


As far as I'm aware, it was said of NAZI torture that it was done to keep the population
in line --- not those tortured. I have no personal experience with this. I simply
agree with those who study these issues.

If you notice, the thugs in the White House have almost brazenly and heroically revealed
now that they did put these torture programs into being --- that they sat around in the
White House discussing waterboarding.


Films did get out --- Congress seems to be the first to have seen them --- did they feel
intimidated? Naturally, stories got out; the Iraqis were the first to know what was
happening to their loved ones in these prisons.

And soldiers siccing on dogs against prisoners -
can you recall that picture in your own mind?

And, overall American citizens are being spied on --- internet, telephones, peace groups,
whatever . . .

That's why I have always felt that the remedy has to be impeachment as quickly as possible.

These are really sick people and murderous people ---