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Frisbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 06:42 PM
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32. And I thought...
it was just because it gives Cheney a boner quicker than massive doses of Viagra. Silly me.
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  -The Real Reason that the U.S. Tortures People G_j  Jul-25-08 11:08 PM   #0 
  - Meet the terrorists  seemslikeadream   Jul-25-08 11:17 PM   #1 
  - Interesting picture  awoke_in_2003   Jul-26-08 07:51 PM   #44 
  - Please identify for us uneducated. nm  rhett o rick   Jul-27-08 08:53 AM   #65 
     - David Addington and John Yoo (the Torture memo guys)  seemslikeadream   Jul-27-08 09:52 AM   #68 
  - also seems to reflect a hateful toxic view of the world and other humans. :(  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jul-25-08 11:18 PM   #2 
  - I knew families from Chile, Argentina and South Africa  Ichingcarpenter   Jul-25-08 11:24 PM   #3 
  - The guy at the chevron station  awoke_in_2003   Jul-26-08 07:53 PM   #45 
  - Exactly. Torture is a form of crowd control by terror.  sfexpat2000   Jul-25-08 11:50 PM   #4 
  - Amen. REcommeneded. nt  napoleon_in_rags   Jul-26-08 12:20 AM   #5 
  - Well, duh. Funny, though, some one would come right out and say so.  azul   Jul-26-08 12:48 AM   #6 
  - I read it and still don't understand something...  elehhhhna   Jul-26-08 10:13 AM   #16 
     - I can only speak for what I was taught in college in the early 1980s.  yardwork   Jul-26-08 05:32 PM   #27 
        - Friedman was just the capitailistic dreamer, whose notions were seized upon  azul   Jul-26-08 11:42 PM   #54 
        - Friedman's version of capitalism is the quickest and most efficient road to enslaving  FKA MNChimpH8R   Jul-27-08 12:44 AM   #57 
  - I think they torture(d) primarily to get false information.  Marr   Jul-26-08 01:02 AM   #7 
  - BINGO!  Th1onein   Jul-26-08 03:03 PM   #25 
  - That too -- they need confessions. . . but main reason is to control the population . . .  defendandprotect   Jul-26-08 07:24 PM   #38 
  - I don't see the control angle, personally.  Marr   Jul-26-08 07:47 PM   #43 
     - They have been using FEAR ceaselessly in our own country . . ..  defendandprotect   Jul-26-08 10:55 PM   #53 
        - Bravo!!  Herdin_Cats   Jul-27-08 05:25 AM   #59 
  - perhaps many reasons to promote torture, like rewarding the sadists  azul   Jul-26-08 11:48 PM   #56 
     - To get data to protect servicemen?  merh   Jul-27-08 09:28 AM   #67 
  - America is the largest exporter of 'war' and its economy relies on it. nt  flashl   Jul-26-08 06:00 AM   #8 
  - A nod to ole Brig. Gen. Smedley Darlington Butler --- "War Is A Racket--!!" . ..  defendandprotect   Jul-26-08 07:31 PM   #41 
  - Shock Doctrine  malaise   Jul-26-08 06:04 AM   #9 
  - That's a classic definition of terrorism. Hurt/kill/torture one to terrorize the rest  Solly Mack   Jul-26-08 07:31 AM   #10 
  - And those among us who support a congress or an administration  LWolf   Jul-26-08 08:36 AM   #11 
  - I also think that they did it to make sure there was punishment for 9/11  underpants   Jul-26-08 08:40 AM   #12 
  - Oh, It's Totally a Control Factor  Crisco   Jul-26-08 08:43 AM   #13 
  - It also creates a "diaster capitalism" boom...  Joanne98   Jul-26-08 09:29 AM   #14 
  - To underscore--Not just foreigners. It intimidates the home folks too.  Papa Boule   Jul-26-08 09:51 AM   #15 
  - That our use of torture is a form of terrorism and deliberate mental and physical damage  indepat   Jul-26-08 11:40 AM   #17 
  - it has always been obvious that Bush has a sadistic, cruel streak  G_j   Jul-26-08 12:43 PM   #20 
     - If your assessment has merit, one would think that those tens of millions  indepat   Jul-26-08 02:23 PM   #22 
     - Do you think Bush/Cheney ever worry about a revolt by those they're bullying . . .???  defendandprotect   Jul-26-08 07:34 PM   #42 
     - it has always been obvious that Bush has a sadistic, cruel streak  ullad   Jul-26-08 05:39 PM   #28 
        - ... cats, turtles? who knows?  G_j   Jul-26-08 07:30 PM   #40 
  - K & R everybody needs to get this. nt  glitch   Jul-26-08 12:17 PM   #18 
  - that just makes sense  barbtries   Jul-26-08 12:39 PM   #19 
  - K&R thank you n/t  slipslidingaway   Jul-26-08 02:22 PM   #21 
  - WRONG. That's not the main reason we torture.  Th1onein   Jul-26-08 03:01 PM   #23 
  - Cooking intelligence doesn't require the ritual of torture.  sfexpat2000   Jul-26-08 03:03 PM   #24 
  - If you want a collection of false "leads", it's perfect.  Marr   Jul-26-08 06:51 PM   #34 
     - That's true. Good point. n/t  sfexpat2000   Jul-26-08 10:54 PM   #52 
  - why bother?  G_j   Jul-26-08 04:45 PM   #26 
  - They use it to get propaganda - not info  ThoughtCriminal   Jul-26-08 06:15 PM   #29 
  - Sometimes even the bad guys tell the truth.  calimary   Jul-26-08 06:19 PM   #30 
  - Let's not forget that it also has the side benefit of  bbgrunt   Jul-26-08 06:26 PM   #31 
  - And I thought...  ImForGore   Jul-26-08 06:42 PM   #32 
  - Not to control.  Causarius   Jul-26-08 06:47 PM   #33 
  - Aren't you lost? The libertarian sites are over there, on the right.  Jim Sagle   Jul-26-08 06:53 PM   #35 
  - Yeah, sure thing.  gatorboy   Jul-26-08 06:55 PM   #36 
  - Occam's razor, then. They do it because they like to do it. n/t  Papa Boule   Jul-26-08 07:01 PM   #37 
  - look at how congress and others continue to roll over for evil n/t  28erl   Jul-26-08 07:27 PM   #39 
  - Torture is all of the things mentioned here and more. It's a big part of a "systems approach" to  bertman   Jul-26-08 08:05 PM   #46 
  - why does a dog lick his balls? BECAUSE HE CAN! welcome to america  happygoluckytoyou   Jul-26-08 08:10 PM   #47 
  - A one sided game of psychopath's  bonito   Jul-26-08 09:10 PM   #48 
  - Banana Republic  disndat   Jul-26-08 09:14 PM   #49 
  - I think it's to guarantee that there are new insurgents. Disaster capitalism in action.  redqueen   Jul-26-08 10:28 PM   #50 
  - "Torture is a form of terrorism..." Once again, BushCo is guilty of projecting  live love laugh   Jul-26-08 10:28 PM   #51 
  - The Real Reason . . . .  lilyannerose   Jul-26-08 11:47 PM   #55 
  - To demoralize our millitary...  bobbiejo   Jul-27-08 12:59 AM   #58 
  - Close, but no cigar  bdf   Jul-27-08 06:17 AM   #60 
  - That's only half the story.  Usrename   Jul-27-08 07:56 AM   #62 
  - The torturers' new weapon-of-choice? The TASER.  DemoTex   Jul-27-08 07:38 AM   #61 
  - good observation  G_j   Jul-27-08 08:34 AM   #63 
  - It's a Neo-Con thing- they hate International law, think we are too "soft on crime"  bettyellen   Jul-27-08 08:53 AM   #64 
  - Right on! Good post. I'm too late to R but here's a K.  rhett o rick   Jul-27-08 09:01 AM   #66 
  - The Bottom Line (thanks to Negativland for this)  derby378   Jul-27-08 10:04 AM   #69 
 

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