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125. There ought to be no safe harbor for heteronormative language here
That's my view.
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  -Lest you forget or deny - on homophobia sniffa  Mar-08-07 07:14 AM   #0 
  - I want to thank Skinner for posting that and you, sniffa, for posting it again.  terrya   Mar-08-07 07:19 AM   #1 
  - thank you  blondie58   Mar-08-07 07:27 AM   #2 
  - Kicked, rec'd, bookmarked and endorsed. n/t  IanDB1   Mar-08-07 07:28 AM   #3 
  - Kick!  bicentennial_baby   Mar-08-07 07:42 AM   #4 
  - Wow. I guess I missed that. Excellent thread!  crispini   Mar-08-07 07:46 AM   #5 
  - K+R and bookmarked.  bettyellen   Mar-08-07 07:48 AM   #6 
  - How many adhere to my rule of thumb:  The Backlash Cometh   Mar-08-07 07:53 AM   #7 
  - Meaning what, exactly?  bicentennial_baby   Mar-08-07 07:56 AM   #8 
  - I'll leave it up to you to frame.  The Backlash Cometh   Mar-08-07 07:59 AM   #9 
     - How can I frame it if I have no idea what you're referring to?  bicentennial_baby   Mar-08-07 08:01 AM   #10 
        - Use history as your guide.  The Backlash Cometh   Mar-08-07 08:04 AM   #11 
        - Ok, you're being deliberately obtuse, so I'm done  bicentennial_baby   Mar-08-07 08:05 AM   #12 
        - I've already been through this debate before.  The Backlash Cometh   Mar-08-07 08:07 AM   #14 
           - Again, just say it!  bicentennial_baby   Mar-08-07 08:10 AM   #15 
              - he thinks, essentially, that gay people should have rights,  Finnfan   Mar-08-07 08:15 AM   #16 
                 - Ah, I see  bicentennial_baby   Mar-08-07 08:17 AM   #18 
                 - You know, you can belittle the situation,  The Backlash Cometh   Mar-08-07 08:19 AM   #19 
                 - I'm not belittling the issue.  Finnfan   Mar-08-07 08:24 AM   #20 
                 - So you're saying that there are issues that I shouldn't discuss on  The Backlash Cometh   Mar-08-07 08:37 AM   #22 
                 - HaHa  Madspirit   Mar-08-07 12:38 PM   #52 
                 - You're entitled to your opinion.  The Backlash Cometh   Mar-08-07 04:35 PM   #72 
                    - If  Madspirit   Mar-08-07 08:00 PM   #83 
                       - Oh, puhlease.  The Backlash Cometh   Mar-08-07 08:05 PM   #84 
                          - Hit dog howls.  Madspirit   Mar-08-07 08:15 PM   #87 
                             - Lastly  Madspirit   Mar-08-07 08:16 PM   #88 
                                - I don't consider myself homophobic.  The Backlash Cometh   Mar-08-07 08:24 PM   #95 
                                - For One Thing  Madspirit   Mar-08-07 08:34 PM   #100 
                                - Once again  Madspirit   Mar-08-07 08:52 PM   #111 
                                - Well, that's a bit more civilized.  The Backlash Cometh   Mar-08-07 09:06 PM   #115 
                                - Let's review your sincerity:  The Backlash Cometh   Mar-08-07 08:58 PM   #113 
                                - well  Madspirit   Mar-08-07 09:23 PM   #119 
                                - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-10-07 10:48 PM   #143 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-10-07 10:47 PM   #142 
                 - It has happened to me  Katzenkavalier   Mar-08-07 09:42 AM   #27 
                 - I don't know if it's always cultural hatred that drives it.  The Backlash Cometh   Mar-08-07 10:35 AM   #35 
                    - Are you still in your Comfort Zone?  Moochy   Mar-08-07 10:50 AM   #39 
                       - Don't put words in my mouth.  The Backlash Cometh   Mar-08-07 11:51 AM   #44 
                          - Flaming as in..  Moochy   Mar-08-07 08:19 PM   #91 
                             - We can mutually disagree with each other.  The Backlash Cometh   Mar-08-07 08:25 PM   #97 
                                - Take some of your own advice  Moochy   Mar-08-07 08:33 PM   #98 
                                - I see, a translation is necessary.  The Backlash Cometh   Mar-08-07 08:43 PM   #104 
                                - Apology accepted  Moochy   Mar-08-07 08:44 PM   #105 
                                - OH, I had a great comeback, but I'm afraid to get booted off the  The Backlash Cometh   Mar-08-07 08:47 PM   #108 
                                - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-10-07 10:51 PM   #144 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-10-07 10:45 PM   #141 
                 - You know what's funny?  foreigncorrespondent   Mar-08-07 09:54 AM   #30 
                 - I don't find anything funny about this at all.  The Backlash Cometh   Mar-08-07 10:25 AM   #34 
                    - I find it pretty funny.  Bornaginhooligan   Mar-08-07 11:53 AM   #45 
                    - Well, that's me. Uptight and off-white.  The Backlash Cometh   Mar-08-07 12:06 PM   #47 
                    - But she wasn't talking about YOUR perspective -- but from hers  Morgana LaFey   Mar-08-07 06:15 PM   #79 
                    - Your post was unnecessary.  The Backlash Cometh   Mar-08-07 07:37 PM   #82 
                       - Well, "necessary" isn't the standard here  Morgana LaFey   Mar-08-07 08:11 PM   #86 
                       - Excuse me, where are you pulling this information from?  The Backlash Cometh   Mar-08-07 08:21 PM   #93 
                       - What puzzles me is why you are raising this in a thread that concerns homophobia  LeftishBrit   Mar-09-07 06:16 AM   #122 
                       - when I was in college, the police arrested several men who were having sex in a public bathroom...  NorthernSpy   Mar-09-07 09:40 AM   #124 
                       - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-10-07 10:53 PM   #145 
                    - Neither do I.  foreigncorrespondent   Mar-08-07 09:17 PM   #116 
                 - Oh crap, it's you again. Equating everything to the few gay people in your life who've made you  PelosiFan   Mar-10-07 12:00 PM   #134 
                 - well I just think it is strange  Skittles   Mar-08-07 03:42 PM   #68 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-10-07 10:43 PM   #140 
        - I am way older than 50, and my mother is 92 -  northofdenali   Mar-08-07 06:09 PM   #78 
        - Liberal Point Of View  ProfessorGAC   Mar-08-07 11:40 AM   #43 
           - I didn't want to use the word, "traditional."  The Backlash Cometh   Mar-08-07 12:04 PM   #46 
              - It's A Razor's Edge  ProfessorGAC   Mar-08-07 12:10 PM   #48 
              - Oh, I agree.  The Backlash Cometh   Mar-08-07 12:18 PM   #50 
              - No, that's the liberal philosophy since the country formed. Jesus.  Zhade   Mar-10-07 10:57 PM   #146 
  - Equal civil rights should not be viewed as liberal or conservative  bear425   Mar-08-07 08:06 AM   #13 
  - Yes, they should.  The Backlash Cometh   Mar-08-07 08:16 AM   #17 
     - So, I can go up to a girl at a bar...  GOTV   Mar-08-07 09:32 AM   #26 
        - First, you're in a bar. That's a clue.  The Backlash Cometh   Mar-08-07 10:43 AM   #37 
           - So it's cool then - you're in a bar....  GOTV   Mar-08-07 10:54 AM   #41 
              - I believe it depends on the bar.  The Backlash Cometh   Mar-08-07 12:13 PM   #49 
                 - Ok, then it's not cool for you. I though I could support you but I guess not.  GOTV   Mar-08-07 12:57 PM   #57 
                    - Er, I was telling you the rules that I lived by, and I'm a heterosexual.  The Backlash Cometh   Mar-08-07 02:30 PM   #60 
                       - Did I miss something?  GOTV   Mar-08-07 02:51 PM   #61 
                          - Painting by the numbers.  The Backlash Cometh   Mar-08-07 03:08 PM   #63 
                             - Maybe I follow your rules, maybe I don't....  GOTV   Mar-08-07 03:48 PM   #69 
                                - I do believe I said, that you can do whatever you like.  The Backlash Cometh   Mar-08-07 04:32 PM   #71 
                                   - What a shame  Morgana LaFey   Mar-08-07 06:35 PM   #80 
                                   - Well, at least now you'll understand why I don't consider myself  The Backlash Cometh   Mar-08-07 07:13 PM   #81 
                                      - TBC, I really don't want to put you on ignore  motocicleta   Mar-09-07 01:02 AM   #120 
                                         - TBC appears to believe the world should act on her vanity demands.  Zhade   Mar-10-07 11:06 PM   #148 
                                   - And you find those "consequences" acceptable?  Zhade   Mar-10-07 11:03 PM   #147 
  - Don't ask, don't tell  marshall   Mar-08-07 08:29 AM   #21 
  - Wouldn't that also apply to heterosexuals?  The Backlash Cometh   Mar-08-07 09:02 AM   #23 
  - I know. It's hard out there for a "traditional" straight man.  Kingshakabobo   Mar-08-07 09:58 AM   #32 
  - Cute. Exaggeration is often entertaining.  The Backlash Cometh   Mar-08-07 10:44 AM   #38 
  - Coffee on Keyboard  Moochy   Mar-08-07 10:52 AM   #40 
  - OMFSM  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Mar-08-07 09:21 PM   #117 
  - me, for one...  NorthernSpy   Mar-08-07 12:25 PM   #51 
  - I've been hit on  Madspirit   Mar-08-07 12:48 PM   #54 
  - You mean no one should "hit" on anyone?  uppityperson   Mar-08-07 05:13 PM   #76 
  - Sure. I always say 'please', 'thank you', and 'sir' during raunchy, sweaty, mansex  kdpeters   Mar-08-07 08:34 PM   #99 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-10-07 10:41 PM   #139 
  - kick  sniffa   Mar-08-07 09:05 AM   #24 
  - Evidence in this very thread for the need of this thread! n/t  Moochy   Mar-08-07 08:23 PM   #94 
  - Thanks for putting this up.  GoneOffShore   Mar-08-07 09:23 AM   #25 
  - I am not free in spirit to enjoy my rights until all my brothers and sisters have rights.  Straight Shooter   Mar-08-07 09:49 AM   #28 
  - the right wing only gets outraged...  VelmaD   Mar-08-07 09:52 AM   #29 
  - YOU KNOW IT, STRAIGHT SHOOTER  Skittles   Mar-08-07 03:39 PM   #66 
  - K&R n/t  foreigncorrespondent   Mar-08-07 09:56 AM   #31 
  - gracias  sniffa   Mar-08-07 10:23 AM   #33 
  - Kick  bicentennial_baby   Mar-08-07 10:40 AM   #36 
  - Kick.  Starbucks Anarchist   Mar-08-07 11:34 AM   #42 
  - Kick  Harvey Korman   Mar-08-07 12:47 PM   #53 
  - Kick!  David Zephyr   Mar-08-07 12:52 PM   #55 
  - kick n/t  Madspirit   Mar-08-07 12:54 PM   #56 
  - Not letting you fall off the page so fast!  bicentennial_baby   Mar-08-07 01:28 PM   #58 
  - kick  Kingshakabobo   Mar-08-07 01:56 PM   #59 
  - Up to the top...(kick)...n/t  Madspirit   Mar-08-07 03:02 PM   #62 
  - Big Time KICK  Jax   Mar-08-07 03:20 PM   #64 
  - sadly, a lot of DUers need to be reminded of this  Skittles   Mar-08-07 03:37 PM   #65 
  - Is there a way here  Madspirit   Mar-08-07 03:41 PM   #67 
  - Define Your Perception Of 'A Lot'. Is It 5 People? 10 People?  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Mar-08-07 05:06 PM   #75 
  - In all the groups I belong to  Madspirit   Mar-08-07 08:06 PM   #85 
  - Actually  Madspirit   Mar-08-07 08:18 PM   #89 
  - 20-30? I Consider That To Be A Huge Exaggeration. I've Seen I Think A Total Of 4?  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Mar-08-07 08:18 PM   #90 
     - So Typical n/t  Madspirit   Mar-08-07 08:19 PM   #92 
        - You Mean Being Honest And Factual? Absolutely.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Mar-08-07 08:25 PM   #96 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-08-07 08:35 PM   #101 
              - I Was Just Posting My Honest Observation. Sorry That Upsets You. But It Appears I'm Accurate, Or  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Mar-08-07 08:40 PM   #102 
                 - The reward for longest subject of 2007 goes to OMC! Step right up OMC and collect your reward!!!!n/t  Moochy   Mar-08-07 08:41 PM   #103 
                 - With All Due Respect, Your Empty Attack Looks Pretty Silly When Your Subject Was Longer Than Mine.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Mar-08-07 08:46 PM   #107 
                    - Aww such a mild jest too  Moochy   Mar-08-07 08:48 PM   #109 
                 - That's right  Madspirit   Mar-08-07 08:45 PM   #106 
                 - What An Absolutely Silly Way To Debate A Point. Jesus.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Mar-08-07 08:50 PM   #110 
                    - You are SO right.  Madspirit   Mar-08-07 08:53 PM   #112 
                 - If you were right, Skinner wouldn't have needed to specifically address the issue.  Zhade   Mar-10-07 11:12 PM   #150 
  - I don't give a damn if it's only one person.  terrya   Mar-09-07 05:36 AM   #121 
     - Of Course It Is Wrong. That's A No Brainer. But That Also Had Nothing To Do With My Point Either.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Mar-09-07 09:39 AM   #123 
        - MY DEFINITION OF "A LOT"  Skittles   Mar-10-07 07:31 AM   #127 
           - Thanks for this post, Skittles  LostinVA   Mar-10-07 07:44 AM   #128 
           - I am sick of it, LostinVa  Skittles   Mar-10-07 07:49 AM   #129 
              - I'm sick ot it, too  LostinVA   Mar-10-07 07:51 AM   #130 
           - Well, I Have To Disagree With Your Premise Then.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Mar-10-07 01:15 PM   #135 
              - Skinner would not address the issue if there were JUST A FEW  Skittles   Mar-11-07 12:44 AM   #152 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-10-07 11:08 PM   #149 
  - The Denial  Madspirit   Mar-08-07 04:21 PM   #70 
  - you are not the onLy one to feeL that way  sniffa   Mar-08-07 04:56 PM   #73 
  - ...and we will keep kicking the thread!! n/t  Madspirit   Mar-08-07 05:03 PM   #74 
  - excellent post, Madspirit  Skittles   Mar-10-07 08:08 AM   #132 
  - Wow, I wish I could rec this post.  Withywindle   Mar-10-07 08:50 PM   #137 
  - Fucking OUTSTANDING post!  Zhade   Mar-10-07 11:16 PM   #151 
  - Here in Alaska, we're in our first really major fight for gay rights.  northofdenali   Mar-08-07 06:06 PM   #77 
  - I don't care for the term "gay rights"  Skittles   Mar-10-07 07:55 AM   #131 
  - Good thread  Katzenkavalier   Mar-08-07 09:02 PM   #114 
  - Thanks for the re-post  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Mar-08-07 09:23 PM   #118 
  - There ought to be no safe harbor for heteronormative language here  Strawman   Mar-09-07 09:43 AM   #125 
  - I don't know what that means.  Madspirit   Mar-09-07 12:26 PM   #126 
  - kick  stonebone   Mar-10-07 11:56 AM   #133 
  - Punt n/t  Madspirit   Mar-10-07 07:23 PM   #136 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-10-07 10:39 PM   #138 
  - I endorse Skinner's definitions, rules and his message.  leftofthedial   Mar-11-07 01:00 AM   #153 
  - Not to mention the stuff on religion  The Straight Story   Mar-11-07 01:04 AM   #154 
     - Speaking of poor "oppressed" Christians  Harvey Korman   Mar-12-07 01:48 PM   #155 
  - In "honor" of Pace's Homophobia  Madspirit   Mar-13-07 06:17 PM   #156 
  - Wow, I missed that first time around, too  Der Blaue Engel   Mar-13-07 06:56 PM   #157 
 

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