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Wed Jul-23-08 11:15 AM
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| 19. People should not lie about McCain. This was the problem with the swiftboaters: the lies... |
| -If you didn't like the Swiftboating of Kerry, don't do it to McCain |
jbane |
Jul-23-08 11:02 AM |
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This should be good. |
Midlodemocrat |
Jul-23-08 11:04 AM |
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Scootch over a bit! |
KitchenWitch |
Jul-23-08 12:44 PM |
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Very Good... |
jbane |
Jul-23-08 12:45 PM |
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Yup. There are a lot of us here at DU. |
Midlodemocrat |
Jul-23-08 12:50 PM |
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but do you agree with what the OP said? |
book_worm |
Jul-23-08 02:50 PM |
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Thank you. |
Richardo |
Jul-23-08 11:04 AM |
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No... military service should *not* be off limits. |
gcomeau |
Jul-23-08 11:06 AM |
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'legitimate' is the key word |
Richardo |
Jul-23-08 11:08 AM |
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Agree |
Allyoop |
Jul-23-08 02:20 PM |
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Negative...McCain is making his military service the center of his campaign |
Squatch |
Jul-23-08 11:17 AM |
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Hm.....where did we hear that before?!?!? |
HardWorkingDem |
Jul-23-08 11:28 AM |
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I don't know where the hell you've heard that before. |
Squatch |
Jul-23-08 11:33 AM |
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How McCain... |
HardWorkingDem |
Jul-23-08 11:43 AM |
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Absolutely. He was unlike Kerry. McCain was a lousy service member. |
TexasObserver |
Jul-23-08 12:10 PM |
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IBTL. |
hisownpetard |
Jul-23-08 11:04 AM |
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I don't think we have to |
liberal N proud |
Jul-23-08 11:04 AM |
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Please provide examples of such swiftboating, oh long time listener. |
Mayberry Machiavelli |
Jul-23-08 11:06 AM |
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if it's off limits, then why does he keep bringing it up? |
libnnc |
Jul-23-08 11:07 AM |
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You're right - so if you want to criticize McCain's service stop complaining about Kerry's treatment |
Richardo |
Jul-23-08 11:10 AM |
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last time I checked, this was 2008 |
libnnc |
Jul-23-08 11:11 AM |
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Ask the people who are still bemoaning Kerry's swiftboating |
Richardo |
Jul-23-08 11:13 AM |
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People should not lie about McCain. This was the problem with the swiftboaters: the lies... |
Mass |
Jul-23-08 11:15 AM |
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point to where I moaned about Kerry's service. |
libnnc |
Jul-23-08 11:18 AM |
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Yeah we can. We can do it because they did it first. |
treestar |
Jul-23-08 12:05 PM |
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It's a pissing contest you can't win. |
Richardo |
Jul-23-08 01:51 PM |
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Is there a difference between swiftboating and criticizing or pointing out lies |
uppityperson |
Jul-23-08 01:01 PM |
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I'll bet the swiftboaters said the same thing |
Richardo |
Jul-23-08 01:49 PM |
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which part of "The Swiftboaters lied" do you not understand? |
libnnc |
Jul-23-08 01:54 PM |
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Is there a difference between swiftboating and criticizing or pointing out lies? |
uppityperson |
Jul-23-08 01:59 PM |
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You're right - I read that as a statement. |
Richardo |
Jul-23-08 02:28 PM |
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There's nothing honorable about John McCain. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jul-23-08 11:08 AM |
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I'll sure criticize him for having Swiftliars on his campaign |
wryter2000 |
Jul-23-08 11:39 AM |
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It's been that "Holier than thou," and "We'll take the high road !" |
TheDebbieDee |
Jul-23-08 11:10 AM |
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That's fine, but it means you can't bitch about the other side using the "low road" tactics. |
cobalt1999 |
Jul-23-08 11:14 AM |
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It might mean that YOU can't 8itch about repukes using |
TheDebbieDee |
Jul-23-08 11:17 AM |
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LOL |
cobalt1999 |
Jul-23-08 11:22 AM |
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Then you prefer a repuke Presidency |
treestar |
Jul-23-08 12:06 PM |
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Hypocrisy is one thing I try very hard not to fall into. |
cobalt1999 |
Jul-23-08 12:18 PM |
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No, he's not a chicken hawk.... He's a fucking WAR HAWK!!! |
Breeze54 |
Jul-23-08 11:12 AM |
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He got shot down and held prisoner by a third world army. What's there to swiftboat? |
devilgrrl |
Jul-23-08 11:12 AM |
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That's fine. But it's not a qualification for President. n/t |
rucky |
Jul-23-08 11:14 AM |
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Would questions about the side-effects of his meds be okay? |
L. Coyote |
Jul-23-08 11:15 AM |
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Nope, I hope he goes down however he goes down--I am "win at all costs" now. |
wienerdoggie |
Jul-23-08 11:15 AM |
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I agree. WE MUST win in November. Whatever it takes! |
TheDebbieDee |
Jul-23-08 11:19 AM |
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I'm almost on board with that except for two things |
jbane |
Jul-23-08 11:27 AM |
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"Go swiftboat".. |
YvonneCa |
Jul-23-08 11:37 AM |
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I'm a wife of a career serviceman--I don't think military records are off-limits-- |
wienerdoggie |
Jul-23-08 12:27 PM |
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I'm a vet, too, Jbane. And I take exception to McSame's |
TheDebbieDee |
Jul-23-08 02:47 PM |
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McCain is swiftboating himself, thanks to Jed Lewison of the JedReport. |
Kaleko |
Jul-23-08 11:16 AM |
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thanks for that clip....did you see this one, from the same person, which highlights conclusively |
Gabi Hayes |
Jul-23-08 12:03 PM |
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I agree, he served honorably. No problems with that. I agree with Wes Clark, |
MiniMe |
Jul-23-08 11:20 AM |
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Is it fair to revisit what the Bush campaign said back in 2000 about McCain? |
predfan |
Jul-23-08 11:20 AM |
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Ah yes, the high road, it always leads to a good view of your opponent's victory party |
RGBolen |
Jul-23-08 11:22 AM |
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Sad but so true. nt |
zanne |
Jul-23-08 11:30 AM |
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Did he stick up for Kerry publicly against the Swift Boat "Veterans"? |
The Stranger |
Jul-23-08 11:23 AM |
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I think we should give as good as we get. |
zanne |
Jul-23-08 11:30 AM |
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Do you consider Wes Clark's comments a form of "swiftboating"? |
bullwinkle428 |
Jul-23-08 11:36 AM |
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John McCain is swiftboating himself |
blogslut |
Jul-23-08 11:37 AM |
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While I agree in principle |
wryter2000 |
Jul-23-08 11:37 AM |
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Swiftboaters weren't wrong for criticizing Kerry's record, they were wrong for LYING about it. |
iconicgnom |
Jul-23-08 11:38 AM |
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That's a good distinction to make. |
LittleClarkie |
Jul-23-08 01:14 PM |
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Thank you... |
YvonneCa |
Jul-23-08 02:41 PM |
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i have never nor would i ever criticize his military. regardless, i thank him for that AND |
seabeyond |
Jul-23-08 11:38 AM |
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oh boy....I am not jumping in the middle of this mess. |
Marrah_G |
Jul-23-08 11:39 AM |
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if he uses any of the swift boaters in his campaign he should be trashed for it, other |
chimpsrsmarter |
Jul-23-08 11:42 AM |
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I've missed your pragmatic rationality... |
Richardo |
Jul-23-08 02:43 PM |
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Hi, nice to see you too! |
chimpsrsmarter |
Jul-23-08 02:53 PM |
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"The man served honorably." |
Vickers |
Jul-23-08 11:43 AM |
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he's sporting a Navy avatar. I guess he is looking out for his Navy buddy |
NightWatcher |
Jul-23-08 12:25 PM |
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USN |
jbane |
Jul-23-08 04:08 PM |
#118 |
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I would not attack |
Mz Pip |
Jul-23-08 11:44 AM |
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The Democrats didn't start this bs. |
sarge43 |
Jul-23-08 11:47 AM |
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So we can't wear the purple heart bandaids at our convention? |
JaneQPublic |
Jul-23-08 11:56 AM |
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I hope not, else I'd have to re-register as an Independent. n/t |
sarge43 |
Jul-23-08 12:15 PM |
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The truth should never be off limits. And I'd be REALLY surprised if any |
AzDar |
Jul-23-08 11:56 AM |
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we don't need to swiftboat McCain: He's swiftboating himself |
cap |
Jul-23-08 12:00 PM |
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It's not 'swiftboating' if it is factual...that is the biggest difference.. |
truebrit71 |
Jul-23-08 12:02 PM |
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And lose the election |
treestar |
Jul-23-08 12:03 PM |
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Who's doing it to mccain? |
No Surrender |
Jul-23-08 12:04 PM |
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Who's swiftboating McCain? eom |
donco6 |
Jul-23-08 12:07 PM |
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John McCain is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life |
yorgatron |
Jul-23-08 12:15 PM |
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Yes mother. |
sarge43 |
Jul-23-08 12:16 PM |
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"swiftboating" has the connotation of UNtrue. McNASTY has ugly TRUTHS about him. n/t |
UTUSN |
Jul-23-08 12:23 PM |
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No one's questioning his service--it's his shameless use of it as |
Alter Ego |
Jul-23-08 12:29 PM |
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What's honorable about bombing innocent women and children to death? |
DutchLiberal |
Jul-23-08 12:36 PM |
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Questioning the relevancy of his POW experience isn't swiftboating |
aint_no_life_nowhere |
Jul-23-08 12:37 PM |
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Pfffft |
temperancedissent |
Jul-23-08 12:38 PM |
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"Swiftboating" is telling outright lies. Calling into question Captain Combover's ......... |
Husb2Sparkly |
Jul-23-08 12:42 PM |
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the man did not serve honorably. he couldn't carry John Kerry's jockstrap. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Jul-23-08 12:43 PM |
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Show me one example of a DUer Swiftboating McCain. |
pnwmom |
Jul-23-08 12:45 PM |
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I agree. |
EOO |
Jul-23-08 12:48 PM |
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He did (serve honorably)? Link? Proof? He needs to prove what he says. |
uppityperson |
Jul-23-08 01:00 PM |
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Indeed. |
sarge43 |
Jul-23-08 01:32 PM |
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I can still question his judgment and military policies. |
quantessd |
Jul-23-08 01:33 PM |
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Of course you can. Questioning his judgement is not casting aspersions on his service. |
Richardo |
Jul-23-08 02:36 PM |
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mc idiot hired the very people who swiftboated him to swiftboat Obama |
Philosoraptor |
Jul-23-08 01:38 PM |
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How many planes did he crack up? |
dbaker41 |
Jul-23-08 01:48 PM |
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i agree. nt |
lionesspriyanka |
Jul-23-08 01:50 PM |
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Do you agree that McCain should shut his fucking yap about his record? |
libnnc |
Jul-23-08 01:56 PM |
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no. i think people shouldnt lie about service. what they did to kerry was unforgiveable. |
lionesspriyanka |
Jul-23-08 02:02 PM |
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Who on DU has lied about McCain's service record? |
libnnc |
Jul-23-08 02:07 PM |
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did i say he has? i just agreed that he shouldnt be swiftboated. |
lionesspriyanka |
Jul-23-08 02:10 PM |
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You won't win that argument. |
Richardo |
Jul-23-08 02:33 PM |
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People who plan on voting for McCain soley based on his POW status |
libnnc |
Jul-23-08 02:37 PM |
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That's what I was saying |
Richardo |
Jul-23-08 02:39 PM |
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Funny how that works |
aint_no_life_nowhere |
Jul-23-08 02:43 PM |
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You're another one who can't read, aren't you? |
Richardo |
Jul-23-08 02:49 PM |
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Thank you... |
YvonneCa |
Jul-23-08 02:40 PM |
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okay. |
spanone |
Jul-23-08 01:52 PM |
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Who's spreading false stories about McCain's service in Vietnam? |
LeftCoast |
Jul-23-08 02:34 PM |
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Suggesting his Vietnam experience does not qualify him is NOT disparaging his service |
Richardo |
Jul-23-08 02:38 PM |
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I think we're arguing much the same thing |
LeftCoast |
Jul-23-08 02:44 PM |
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Agreed. |
Richardo |
Jul-23-08 02:50 PM |
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I think I've read 15 replies asking you for examples of "swiftboating", or do you know what the fuck |
burythehatchet |
Jul-23-08 02:36 PM |
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The Mets are closing in on the Phillies.... |
jbane |
Jul-23-08 04:11 PM |
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He didn't serve Honorably |
snooper2 |
Jul-23-08 02:39 PM |
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He was a lousy student, he's a liar, he is devoid of principles, he's never had to work an honest |
burythehatchet |
Jul-23-08 02:39 PM |
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Telling the truth is not "swiftboating." |
silverweb |
Jul-23-08 02:52 PM |
#115 |
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Here's 2 Swiftboats I see against McCain quite often on DU |
RamboLiberal |
Jul-23-08 02:52 PM |
#116 |
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