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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 11:30 AM
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36. if this were an intellectual article on obama's presidency it might have been titled:
Edited on Tue Jul-22-08 11:36 AM by spanone
'will an obama presidency hurt or help blacks?' that would have been a fair headline


please point out the positives of an obama win in the article. i found none
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  -cnn headline: Could an Obama victory hurt black Americans? spanone  Jul-22-08 10:36 AM   #0 
  - someone there needs to be hit in the head with a sock full of moldy bologna  NightWatcher   Jul-22-08 10:38 AM   #1 
  - where is the article saying if mccain wins we might disband the military  spanone   Jul-22-08 10:42 AM   #3 
  - CNN Headline: Were blacks responsible for their own enslavement?  arcadian   Jul-22-08 10:41 AM   #2 
  - By this logic, everything good which happens is actually bad...  Eric J in MN   Jul-22-08 10:43 AM   #4 
  - Good point! n/t  GOPBasher   Jul-22-08 11:43 AM   #44 
  - It could absolutely product that result. I have heard much the same thing from people  exothermic   Jul-22-08 10:45 AM   #5 
  - it's not true with tiger woods and i doubt it will be true with barack obama..these are not facts  spanone   Jul-22-08 10:49 AM   #8 
  - I am relaying what I hear with my own ears. You don't have to like it but you should believe me  exothermic   Jul-22-08 10:52 AM   #12 
     - explain please. you think obama will be bad for blacks, please explain  spanone   Jul-22-08 10:54 AM   #14 
        - I don't necessarily think it will be that extreme but the article in the OP  exothermic   Jul-22-08 10:55 AM   #16 
           - did i read it? i posted it. did you read it?  spanone   Jul-22-08 10:58 AM   #18 
           - I'm sorry but your inability to grasp the concept is beyond my power to repair.  exothermic   Jul-22-08 11:06 AM   #25 
              - now that's a good argument there....don't bother replying..well i did but i guess you won't see it  spanone   Jul-22-08 11:12 AM   #28 
           - It's an interesting article, actually  Terran   Jul-22-08 11:13 AM   #29 
  - Yeah, because the PGA is just overrun with black golfers these days  shadowknows69   Jul-22-08 01:51 PM   #62 
     - I just can't figure out why some people are unable to separate fact from opinion.  exothermic   Jul-22-08 02:37 PM   #63 
  - Some say that CNN is balanced or even liberal  Indenturedebtor   Jul-22-08 10:46 AM   #6 
  - The exception is not the rule  Lurking_Argyle   Jul-22-08 10:47 AM   #7 
  - Who writes this shit?  libnnc   Jul-22-08 10:50 AM   #9 
  - Paul Street, a noted black author brought it up...  exothermic   Jul-22-08 11:02 AM   #21 
  - Just because people are black  TNOE   Jul-22-08 11:34 AM   #39 
  - this shit makes a lot of sense. nt  lionesspriyanka   Jul-22-08 11:06 AM   #24 
     - to people who don't want Obama elected. n/t.  libnnc   Jul-22-08 12:30 PM   #47 
        - no. to people who study race and society or any field of sociology and psychology. nt  lionesspriyanka   Jul-22-08 12:58 PM   #54 
           - to whom is this CNN piece directed? Intellectuals or low info whites?  libnnc   Jul-22-08 01:07 PM   #57 
              - its an intellectual piece arguing about the effects of tokenism amongst racist  lionesspriyanka   Jul-22-08 01:10 PM   #59 
  - its not a ridiculous argument, its actually a legitimate argument  lionesspriyanka   Jul-22-08 10:51 AM   #10 
  - Thank you for observing the obvious. It seems that some folks here are operating under the delusion  exothermic   Jul-22-08 10:54 AM   #13 
  - no one said it will be a cakewalk...where did you get that?  spanone   Jul-22-08 10:55 AM   #15 
     - I guess you've missed all the threads beginning with "President Obama"  exothermic   Jul-22-08 11:03 AM   #22 
        - i think that's called 'hope' here on du  spanone   Jul-22-08 11:35 AM   #40 
  - "tokenism". Thanks for this mindblowingly obvious concept  RadiationTherapy   Jul-22-08 02:48 PM   #64 
     - welcome  lionesspriyanka   Jul-23-08 09:53 AM   #70 
  - this was brought up on Bill Moyers by AA professors  grasswire   Jul-22-08 10:52 AM   #11 
  - people forget how race is tied with socioecomics and that i think will be  lionesspriyanka   Jul-22-08 10:57 AM   #17 
  - Oh brother.  TNOE   Jul-22-08 10:59 AM   #19 
     - its not the damage to the middle class this argument is about, its damage to poor blacks  lionesspriyanka   Jul-22-08 11:00 AM   #20 
        - Seriously?  TNOE   Jul-22-08 11:20 AM   #32 
           - again, that is so not what the article discusses. maybe you should read it. nt  lionesspriyanka   Jul-22-08 11:23 AM   #33 
              - I read it and I think the premise is assinine  TNOE   Jul-22-08 11:31 AM   #37 
                 - actually its not at all talking down to people especially black people  lionesspriyanka   Jul-22-08 11:32 AM   #38 
                 - At least one idea in the article is highly valid:  Terran   Jul-22-08 11:42 AM   #43 
  - I researched the author of the editorial a little  Ichingcarpenter   Jul-22-08 11:04 AM   #23 
  - That 2nd article is quite interesting.  LWolf   Jul-23-08 10:09 AM   #71 
  - Right-wing propaganda  Blecht   Jul-22-08 11:06 AM   #26 
  - have any of you read the article? this is not right wing propaganda  lionesspriyanka   Jul-22-08 11:09 AM   #27 
     - it's not right wing propaganda. but the point it makes is what?? do we not elect obama?  spanone   Jul-22-08 11:15 AM   #30 
     - just because there is a presidential election doesnt mean all intellectual thought should be banned  lionesspriyanka   Jul-22-08 11:18 AM   #31 
        - if this were an intellectual article on obama's presidency it might have been titled:  spanone   Jul-22-08 11:30 AM   #36 
     - I read it.  LWolf   Jul-23-08 10:16 AM   #72 
  - Is the writer just assuming that all black americans expect that Obama will fix all  chimpsrsmarter   Jul-22-08 11:25 AM   #34 
  - no, but that white people will think that racism is now cured. nt  lionesspriyanka   Jul-22-08 11:27 AM   #35 
     - Not this white person.  TNOE   Jul-22-08 11:38 AM   #41 
     - so just because you wont, you dont think others will. you dont think this is going  lionesspriyanka   Jul-22-08 11:39 AM   #42 
        - For a minority  TNOE   Jul-22-08 11:44 AM   #45 
        - it wont be. racism doesnt exist in a small number. racism+classism  lionesspriyanka   Jul-22-08 12:32 PM   #48 
        - can we at least get the man elected first?  libnnc   Jul-22-08 12:53 PM   #53 
           - there is no dealing with this. people need to exercise their intellect  lionesspriyanka   Jul-22-08 12:59 PM   #55 
              - you assume that CNN won't use this as a negative against Obama  libnnc   Jul-22-08 01:04 PM   #56 
                 - academincs who are not the CNN have been discussing this much longer.  lionesspriyanka   Jul-22-08 01:09 PM   #58 
                    - that's great. But do you trust CNN to deliver that message?  libnnc   Jul-22-08 01:11 PM   #60 
                       - the reporter who wrote that piece, wrote it well.  lionesspriyanka   Jul-22-08 01:12 PM   #61 
     - Not all of us are that stupid. n/t  libnnc   Jul-22-08 12:46 PM   #51 
        - the article wasnt directed towards the ones who werent.  lionesspriyanka   Jul-22-08 12:51 PM   #52 
  - Could an Obama victory hurt CNN's credibility?  LiberalFighter   Jul-22-08 11:45 AM   #46 
  - Could a McCain victory hurt senior citizens?  DailyGrind51   Jul-22-08 12:35 PM   #49 
  - we need an intellectual conversation about that  spanone   Jul-22-08 12:36 PM   #50 
  - Absolutely!  intheflow   Jul-23-08 08:59 AM   #68 
  - It's clearly an issue worth discussing  fishwax   Jul-22-08 03:20 PM   #65 
  - its not just conservatives. lots of liberals dont understand how race works  lionesspriyanka   Jul-22-08 03:23 PM   #66 
     - yes, absolutely true--thanks for pointing that out  fishwax   Jul-22-08 03:36 PM   #67 
  - Some interesting responses to this thread  NNN0LHI   Jul-23-08 09:17 AM   #69 
  - Don't white Americans do that already?  treestar   Jul-23-08 10:47 AM   #73 
 

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