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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 07:28 PM
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Despite all the promises...no manual recount in close elections in Florida.
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You just thought you heard it was going to happen. See, things are not always as they seem. Not at all. There will only be some very limited recounts...no real complete recounts at all.

Amazing how they made you think that would happen. :shrug:

You know how they rammed the early Florida primary bill through..saying it included a paper trail...why have a paper trail if you don't get to recount? Wasn't the part of the deal? I guess not.

Steve Geller: "In addition, while our amendments failed, we as Democrats voted for the final product. The legislation we supported finally moved our state from the punch lines into the headlines with regard to election reform, including the creation of a verifiable paper trail, a change long overdue. A verifiable paper trail was one of our Caucus priorities and important to many members of Congress as well."


No manual recount except in very special circumstances. We got snookered.

No Manual Recount In Close Elections

"There is not such a thing as a manual recount in Florida," said Florida Secretary of State Kurt Browning. "It is very dangerous to tell candidates that, yes, the law has a section that says 'manual recount' but we're not going to look at those ballots."

The reason: Despite pleas from Browning, lawmakers have not authorized a full manual recount of all ballots in close elections.


Instead, canvassing boards in each of Florida's 67 counties will only manually count the ballots that were not tabulated by machines that read marked-in bubbles or connected lines.


Wait until you hear how they justify the lack of a recount...it would show we did not trust the new optical machines and wouldn't that be a real shame. :eyes:

But some elections officials say there is not enough time to do a full manual recount in large counties like Miami-Dade, where more than 770,000 voters went to the polls in the 2004 presidential election. State law only allows 14 days after the election to certify the results. And they say authorizing a full manual recount is akin to admitting a lack of faith in optical scan voting machines that have cost tens of millions of dollars to buy and test in the past 18 months.

"We get them and immediately turn around and say, 'If we have a close election, we don't trust those machines," said Ron Labasky, a longtime lawyer for the Florida State Association of Supervisors of Elections. "If you felt that way, then you better count everything by hand."


Yay, Labasky, best suggestion yet.

Bless Ion Sancho...he has fought hard for fair elections here. His reply to this idiocy about no manual recounts was "voters are "stunned" when told there will be no manual recount of all ballots in a close election. We have failed our citizens," said Sancho.

He argued that "lawmakers should allow more time for a full manual recount in close elections or at least a scientifically sound sampling to verify the votes were counted correctly."

We got snookered.







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