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Mon Jul-21-08 12:14 PM
Response to Reply #49 |
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Edited on Mon Jul-21-08 12:15 PM by blues90
But that is not the case in many areas in the US where we have had many years to develope mass transit and just as much resistence to it.
Who will be able to afford these new cars especially when the cars people have now with a live payment book will be worthless so they are stuck with what they have.
This is the main problem I have with the big three, they allowed this to happen and promoted cars and trucks that they knew damn well were not the best for now or the future. How many chances are they supposed to get before they once again screw the people over , whether the buyers of their products or the people who work for them?
Their interests are in their own profit not the better of the people.
The big three brought this on themselves and now we should feel bad and then switch to happy because they are finally going to build better cars, isn't it a bit late , how well would that work out for you or me if we did the same thing?
Let the big three buy back all of these gas hogs they pushed and put that toward a better car , then they have made an attempt to redeem themselves but they will never do that.
The auto companies have fought against
all mass transit for years to keep their hold so they don't deserve another chance , really they don't.
They also blamed their workers and then put the fact that older workers who worked to build these companies up cost to much for healthcare so these workers are tossed to the curb.
so if the big three faulter and fail just remember it was their own doing not mine. No one needs a car that can do 0 to 60 in 2 seconds while they sit in traffic , no one.
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| -Ford to retool U.S. plants for European cars |
DainBramaged |
Jul-20-08 10:16 AM |
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This could be a good thing? |
notadmblnd |
Jul-20-08 10:19 AM |
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It would be nice, wouldn't it! |
DainBramaged |
Jul-20-08 10:20 AM |
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Some pictures and specs |
DainBramaged |
Jul-20-08 10:20 AM |
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I could smack Ford. |
SmileyRose |
Jul-20-08 01:07 PM |
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Me too, GM is doing the same thing, they think we are idiots |
DainBramaged |
Jul-20-08 01:43 PM |
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does ford offer a convertible in the american market...? |
QuestionAll |
Jul-20-08 02:23 PM |
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Ford has made some very nice cars in Europe over the years |
aint_no_life_nowhere |
Jul-20-08 07:26 PM |
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Yes that has beautiful lines n/t |
Indenturedebtor |
Jul-21-08 11:06 AM |
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At least it's not a Bubble-Butt |
Clark2008 |
Jul-21-08 11:13 AM |
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reminds me of a Karman Ghia |
SoCalDem |
Jul-21-08 04:34 PM |
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It's larger |
aint_no_life_nowhere |
Jul-21-08 05:19 PM |
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Love that Focus coupe'! |
amandabeech |
Jul-21-08 10:54 AM |
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It is the prettiest thing on the page save the GT. |
Clark2008 |
Jul-21-08 11:14 AM |
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I agree. n/t |
amandabeech |
Jul-21-08 06:13 PM |
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Awww... crap. |
Clark2008 |
Jul-21-08 11:12 AM |
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The 4x4 Diesel Powered Kuga SUV gets 44.1 MPG |
LSK |
Jul-21-08 01:22 PM |
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The mileage in US MPG isn't quite as spectacular |
TommyO |
Jul-21-08 02:31 PM |
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The SUV is a dying breed |
hogwyld |
Jul-21-08 07:15 PM |
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I never understood why Ford's European line isn't for sale here |
tridim |
Jul-20-08 10:24 AM |
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I would bet the margins on those are pretty small |
Mr. Blonde |
Jul-20-08 10:37 AM |
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Because you can really only have one small car... |
krispos42 |
Jul-20-08 10:49 AM |
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About the Contour... |
JonathanChance |
Jul-20-08 12:44 PM |
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Yes. |
SmileyRose |
Jul-20-08 01:03 PM |
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That's what I believe it was. The Mondeo platform. |
krispos42 |
Jul-20-08 07:07 PM |
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Funny, the guys on Top Gear LOVED it |
Clark2008 |
Jul-21-08 11:17 AM |
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The 2007 Mondeo is on a brand new platform |
high density |
Jul-21-08 02:43 PM |
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and they H A T E american made cars |
comtec |
Jul-22-08 05:58 AM |
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They won't sell many SUVs so long as the gas price stays up, |
amandabeech |
Jul-21-08 10:57 AM |
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They were selling millions of the giant SUV's and |
old mark |
Jul-21-08 01:44 PM |
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Hope this encourages a Vauxhall invasion from GM, too. |
flvegan |
Jul-20-08 10:27 AM |
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Wouldn't THAT be a hoot! |
dbt |
Jul-20-08 10:37 AM |
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And just LOOK at this |
flvegan |
Jul-20-08 10:45 AM |
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That's what I'm talkin' ABOUT! |
dbt |
Jul-20-08 10:47 AM |
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Why stop at GM? |
hogwyld |
Jul-21-08 11:53 AM |
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I see it... and it's ugly |
Clark2008 |
Jul-21-08 11:19 AM |
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The automakers aren't the ones buying vehicles. We all do. |
amandabeech |
Jul-21-08 11:03 AM |
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Ford, don't stop with Europe. |
Opposite Reaction |
Jul-20-08 10:27 AM |
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That reminds me of the El Camino or a Ranchero. |
JonathanChance |
Jul-20-08 12:46 PM |
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The Ute preceeded the Ranchero by about five years. |
Opposite Reaction |
Jul-20-08 01:49 PM |
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That's because that's basically what it is. |
Clark2008 |
Jul-21-08 11:21 AM |
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They do this or face elimination. |
sellitman |
Jul-20-08 10:37 AM |
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to expensive to make in europe and sell here |
madrchsod |
Jul-20-08 10:55 AM |
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I personnaly like the Falcon built in Australia |
peanut2010 |
Jul-20-08 11:06 AM |
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Screw ford and the other big two |
blues90 |
Jul-20-08 11:20 AM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Jul-20-08 11:34 AM |
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Lets screw Ford |
Thothmes |
Jul-20-08 07:12 PM |
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My thread in response to this was deleted |
blues90 |
Jul-20-08 07:46 PM |
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Your are correct on all accounts |
Thothmes |
Jul-21-08 06:56 AM |
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That may be true . |
blues90 |
Jul-21-08 12:14 PM |
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Some people think their dream of a compliant society where THEY |
DainBramaged |
Jul-21-08 06:57 AM |
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People can still buy cars when there is the public transport option |
Indenturedebtor |
Jul-21-08 11:14 AM |
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Classic overreaction from Mr. GM |
hogwyld |
Jul-21-08 02:52 PM |
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America needs a revitalized auto industry. It's a huge part of our economy and way of life. |
Owl |
Jul-20-08 07:12 PM |
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If ford built these cars and sold them in the UK then |
blues90 |
Jul-20-08 07:52 PM |
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I agree with you and concur that the American division of Ford, GM, etc., seems mindless at times... |
Owl |
Jul-20-08 08:11 PM |
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Show me the silver lining ,Please |
blues90 |
Jul-20-08 08:23 PM |
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Again I agree with you. This country needs a massive infusion of realism and mass-transit. |
Owl |
Jul-20-08 08:49 PM |
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No they didn't. |
Clark2008 |
Jul-21-08 11:23 AM |
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how do you arrive at this conclusion? |
blues90 |
Jul-21-08 03:52 PM |
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Nobody MADE people buy SUVs, dude. |
Codeine |
Jul-21-08 06:07 PM |
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I did'nt say people were forced to by SUV's |
blues90 |
Jul-21-08 06:31 PM |
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Ah, jeez. |
Codeine |
Jul-21-08 06:50 PM |
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If you think you all the answers , lets hear them. |
blues90 |
Jul-21-08 07:19 PM |
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No, America wanted SUVs because automakers needed something to replace CAFE banned station wagons |
Leopolds Ghost |
Jul-22-08 01:11 AM |
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It's ALWAYS the anti-Union pretenders who are against any progress |
DainBramaged |
Jul-20-08 12:59 PM |
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What would you know about it ? |
blues90 |
Jul-21-08 03:53 PM |
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Oh please |
JustAnotherGen |
Jul-20-08 01:06 PM |
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The Smart is already here. There's one in my neighborhood. |
Tesha |
Jul-20-08 06:50 PM |
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Smart is rubbish... Very poor economy for the size |
JCMach1 |
Jul-21-08 07:51 AM |
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From the FAQ... |
Tesha |
Jul-21-08 11:15 AM |
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The new Chevy Cruze coming in 2009 will get 42+ MPG highway |
DainBramaged |
Jul-21-08 11:24 AM |
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Cars that are "coming soon" always get better mileage than cars that are actually available. (NT) |
Tesha |
Jul-21-08 02:40 PM |
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Then go buy one that's available. Don't grind my nuts. |
DainBramaged |
Jul-21-08 03:11 PM |
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I'm sorry -- I thought you *STARTED THIS THREAD* because you wanted discussion. |
Tesha |
Jul-21-08 03:22 PM |
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(sigh) goodbye, you hate domestics and Union workers anyway |
DainBramaged |
Jul-21-08 03:25 PM |
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Nope, don't hate union workes. 'Stood with a great bunch of UAW men and women... |
Tesha |
Jul-21-08 03:34 PM |
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What are they doing selling cars in the UK then? |
treestar |
Jul-21-08 04:08 PM |
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Another X |
DainBramaged |
Jul-21-08 04:32 PM |
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But can you "ignore" reality, just by clicking on a check-box? |
Tesha |
Jul-22-08 05:44 AM |
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33/41 is pretty good, but I'm a little disappointed |
bunkerbuster1 |
Jul-21-08 11:26 AM |
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Sorry about the lousy formatting, but Smart wins (and by quite a bit) |
Tesha |
Jul-21-08 02:53 PM |
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I'm pretty familiar with the little-car stats |
bunkerbuster1 |
Jul-21-08 03:10 PM |
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The Smart got an unfavorable review in Consumer Reports |
CreekDog |
Jul-21-08 12:19 PM |
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Actual EPA numbers are posted in my reply just above. I wouldn't call then "similar". |
Tesha |
Jul-21-08 02:55 PM |
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Smart 33/41; Fit 33/38; Yaris 34/40 (you said these aren't similar?) |
CreekDog |
Jul-21-08 10:03 PM |
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Here are the numbers I posted for the FIT; what's your source for 33/38? |
Tesha |
Jul-22-08 05:39 AM |
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Consumer Reports lists the EPA mileage figures |
CreekDog |
Jul-22-08 07:52 AM |
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CR probably had the older, higher "2007 method" numbers. (NT) |
Tesha |
Jul-22-08 08:08 AM |
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that's what i thought |
CreekDog |
Jul-22-08 08:11 AM |
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Will cars be built here and shipped overseas? |
herbster |
Jul-20-08 01:08 PM |
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perhaps you would like a copy of the PM you sent for all to see who you really are? |
blues90 |
Jul-20-08 04:55 PM |
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The Mondeo's a GREAT car! It's G-damned about time! |
Owl |
Jul-20-08 06:54 PM |
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Used to be sold here as the Contour. |
bunkerbuster1 |
Jul-20-08 07:34 PM |
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The contour was the POS of all time crap. |
blues90 |
Jul-20-08 07:56 PM |
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The Mondeo's I've driven recently are fine vehicles. |
Owl |
Jul-20-08 08:13 PM |
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they are not the same car . |
blues90 |
Jul-20-08 08:24 PM |
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" bringing over European models, including the mid-size Mondeo" |
Owl |
Jul-20-08 08:32 PM |
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no i have'nt . To be honest I really have no interest in cars |
blues90 |
Jul-20-08 10:17 PM |
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Mondeo is NOT a Contour- the new ones are completely different |
JCMach1 |
Jul-21-08 07:49 AM |
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The Taurus is similar to the Mondeo |
Zenzic |
Jul-21-08 08:45 AM |
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The Brits had a one-size up car that was a rear-driver, unlike the Taurus... |
bunkerbuster1 |
Jul-21-08 11:08 AM |
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You're saying the old Contour wasn't the similar-vintage Mondial of the 90s? |
bunkerbuster1 |
Jul-21-08 11:07 AM |
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I had a '98 1/2 Contour and loved it! Wish I had gotten the manual |
TommyO |
Jul-21-08 12:27 PM |
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Oy, the Focus. Ford, WTF are you thinking? |
bunkerbuster1 |
Jul-22-08 06:44 AM |
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DainBramaged |
Diclotican |
Jul-20-08 07:12 PM |
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when in europe i've always been impressed by the better feel of the european ford |
spanone |
Jul-20-08 07:14 PM |
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Can we have the Ka? Pretty please? |
bunkerbuster1 |
Jul-20-08 07:37 PM |
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KAKA KAKA KAKA |
DainBramaged |
Jul-20-08 08:37 PM |
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Mondeo is better than what Toyota is making this days... what shocks me is how long it took them |
JCMach1 |
Jul-21-08 07:49 AM |
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What about Fiat in the US? |
Zenzic |
Jul-21-08 08:47 AM |
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Fiat never succeeded here, bad service reputation |
DainBramaged |
Jul-21-08 09:33 AM |
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The Fiats had a reputation of poor functioning in cold climates. |
amandabeech |
Jul-21-08 11:08 AM |
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The metal on the body would rust to bits from moisture and road salt. Great cars to drive, though. |
herbster |
Jul-21-08 05:10 PM |
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Had they caught on in Michigan (ha-ha), they would have brought |
amandabeech |
Jul-21-08 06:15 PM |
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My son bought a Fiat recently.. a 1973 convertible |
SoCalDem |
Jul-21-08 04:47 PM |
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Those are nice |
aint_no_life_nowhere |
Jul-21-08 07:20 PM |
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It's about damned time. |
B3Nut |
Jul-21-08 10:45 AM |
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The new Saturn is hot! |
DainBramaged |
Jul-21-08 11:13 AM |
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Oh yeah baby! |
B3Nut |
Jul-21-08 11:47 AM |
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Wouldn't it be better to just import them? |
hogwyld |
Jul-21-08 11:07 AM |
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Wow... way to shit on American workers. |
Clark2008 |
Jul-21-08 11:27 AM |
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How come every time a car design is modified here |
hogwyld |
Jul-21-08 11:50 AM |
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"Time to retrain the workers to do something that doesn't destroy the earth" |
Leopolds Ghost |
Jul-22-08 01:15 AM |
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Isn't it shitting on the executives/decision makers, not the workers? |
herbster |
Jul-21-08 11:52 AM |
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Exactly! Unless we can decapitate the management |
hogwyld |
Jul-21-08 12:07 PM |
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That is the norm here, and why I put so many people on ignore |
DainBramaged |
Jul-21-08 01:18 PM |
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quick question for you |
Real_Talk |
Jul-21-08 02:39 PM |
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You answered your own question: "built in the US with US components" |
Romulox |
Jul-21-08 02:59 PM |
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as are american cars |
sentelle |
Jul-21-08 06:09 PM |
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Te workers earn less in wages and benefits than UAW workers, the profits go back to japan |
DainBramaged |
Jul-21-08 03:09 PM |
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Minor quibble but... |
Xithras |
Jul-21-08 04:59 PM |
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Not only that, but I would suspect |
hogwyld |
Jul-21-08 07:12 PM |
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Are the content lables false? |
Real_Talk |
Jul-23-08 12:58 AM |
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Umm, who is going to be able to afford to purchase one if the jobs are overseas? |
NNN0LHI |
Jul-21-08 06:11 PM |
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Early 70's Cadilac was including a Honda free with every purcase. |
Imagevision |
Jul-21-08 03:59 PM |
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I plan on buying the new Ford Verve. |
roamer65 |
Jul-21-08 09:01 PM |
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How about a gubmint subsidy for any commuter car built in this country that gets over 40mpg |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jul-22-08 01:21 AM |
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GM is not resting either. |
TommyO |
Jul-22-08 05:12 PM |
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