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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 08:13 PM
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82. Not all film is high art. Sometimes it's just plain entertainment.
(Speaking as someone who has not seen it yet, just commenting on your opinions) And that's OK too. If you are too cinematically sophisticated to enjoy an insanely energetic action movie that is light on plot, or a comedy aimed at the typical mass market consumer, or highly hyped, dark version of a comic book hero, that's your prerogative. But you type as if everyone who is OK with being entertained by a wide range of films are just peons with brains the size of *bush. That's insulting and pretentious.
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  -Daring to hate 'Dark Knight'; with commentary on Internet Mob Mentality tekisui  Jul-19-08 01:03 PM   #0 
  - He brought the phanton menace in to this?  DS1   Jul-19-08 01:05 PM   #1 
  - but Heath Ledger's dead, so it must be a classic...  NightWatcher   Jul-19-08 01:07 PM   #2 
  - Pink Floyd gave us proof that god walks among us in human form  Catch22Dem   Jul-19-08 01:18 PM   #6 
  - Howard the Duck was awesome.  Captain Angry   Jul-19-08 01:20 PM   #7 
  - whatever!  iamthebandfanman   Jul-19-08 02:19 PM   #49 
  - Howard the Duck STOLE their tag line from some old novels.  Perragrande   Jul-21-08 12:23 AM   #124 
  - except for The Who nt  patrice   Jul-19-08 01:21 PM   #8 
  - when I hear a Who song, my brain thinks that another CSI is starting, and I run away  NightWatcher   Jul-19-08 01:26 PM   #14 
     - CSI?  patrice   Jul-19-08 01:36 PM   #23 
     - ...  Occam Bandage   Jul-19-08 01:39 PM   #24 
        - Thanks, I LIKE Gary Sinise, but . . .  patrice   Jul-19-08 01:57 PM   #40 
     - :) you I like.nt  glitch   Jul-19-08 10:41 PM   #91 
  - Ledger did well, but it was not an Academy Award wining performance  Quixote1818   Jul-19-08 01:53 PM   #37 
  - I thought Ledger was fantastic, but if he wins the Oscar it will be entirely because of his death.  Occam Bandage   Jul-19-08 02:03 PM   #44 
     - Might be a sympathy vote like Peter Finch in "Network", 1976.  Perragrande   Jul-20-08 12:43 AM   #102 
        - Hey Peter Finch gave one of the great performances in movie history in that role  MN Against Bush   Jul-20-08 06:17 PM   #116 
  - Howard the Duck is back in high-quality reprints  MetaTrope   Jul-20-08 05:36 AM   #104 
  - I saw it last night and thought it was pretty good.  Windy   Jul-19-08 01:09 PM   #3 
  - found his review of it for NPR's Fresh Air  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jul-19-08 01:10 PM   #4 
  - How rotton of them to criticize Laura's film debut.  notadmblnd   Jul-19-08 01:15 PM   #5 
  - Which rather reinforces my belief that he wrote a negative review not so much because  Occam Bandage   Jul-19-08 01:22 PM   #9 
  - He got his name in a couple of stories.....  tekisui   Jul-19-08 01:24 PM   #11 
  - Either that or he honestly disliked the movie.  RandomKoolzip   Jul-19-08 01:27 PM   #16 
  - Which would be a possibility if not for the masturbatory self-congratulation in the OP.  Occam Bandage   Jul-19-08 01:33 PM   #21 
  - "Hey everybody, look at me!!"  TexasObserver   Jul-19-08 03:02 PM   #66 
  - I have no desire to see that fucking movie.  RandomKoolzip   Jul-19-08 01:24 PM   #10 
  - It's one of about 20 Action/Adventure/Comic movies to come out each Summer.  tekisui   Jul-19-08 01:25 PM   #13 
  - There was no CGI used in The Dark Knight.  gmudem   Jul-19-08 01:27 PM   #15 
  - So "no" equals "not that much"?  RandomKoolzip   Jul-19-08 01:30 PM   #18 
  - Yes there was.  Codeine   Jul-19-08 01:39 PM   #25 
  - Well, both are correct-ish.  Occam Bandage   Jul-19-08 01:44 PM   #30 
     - Well, then that pretty clearly means  Codeine   Jul-19-08 01:52 PM   #35 
     - Oh, certainly. It was a wrong statement countering a wrong statement, but  Occam Bandage   Jul-19-08 02:00 PM   #42 
        - There's no water in the glass at all!  Codeine   Jul-19-08 02:23 PM   #52 
     - I wouldn't characterize the CGI on Harvey Dent as "unobtrusive."  yardwork   Jul-22-08 02:48 PM   #147 
  - Memo: using the word "fail"  Terran   Jul-21-08 12:58 PM   #139 
  - Couple points.  Occam Bandage   Jul-19-08 01:31 PM   #20 
  - I have no desire to see that movie because it's exactly like 99% of all the movies  RandomKoolzip   Jul-19-08 01:41 PM   #26 
     - Well you're missing out on a great movie.  gmudem   Jul-19-08 01:45 PM   #31 
     - Well, I sure ain't missing out on the hype!  RandomKoolzip   Jul-19-08 01:51 PM   #34 
     - "I know this because I've seen the commercials!"  Occam Bandage   Jul-19-08 01:58 PM   #41 
        - Oh, here we go again....  RandomKoolzip   Jul-19-08 02:18 PM   #48 
           - "Forgetting Sarah Marshall"  ProudToBeBlueInRhody   Jul-19-08 06:50 PM   #76 
           - Not all film is high art. Sometimes it's just plain entertainment.  Lisa0825   Jul-19-08 08:13 PM   #82 
           - You go in thinking it's going to suck, and you're shocked when it does?  IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge   Jul-21-08 12:22 PM   #133 
           - Sure! Well, first off, there's "Local Hero," then there's "Nashvi-" Oh're being sarcastic  RandomKoolzip   Jul-21-08 12:38 PM   #134 
              - But, seriously, what makes a movie good?  IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge   Jul-21-08 01:27 PM   #142 
                 - Honestly? My subjective criteria: Rule no. 1: no superheroes.  RandomKoolzip   Jul-21-08 02:17 PM   #144 
           - FSM was a good movie.  EOTE   Jul-21-08 12:46 PM   #136 
  - The "brou-ha-ha" was there when the first one came out, but thats besides the point  rch35   Jul-19-08 08:50 PM   #83 
  - I'm with you, Random.  loudsue   Jul-19-08 09:26 PM   #85 
  - Of all the Batman movies I've seen, this version is the best.  The Backlash Cometh   Jul-20-08 08:53 AM   #107 
  - *DING* *DING* *DING* You hit the nail on the head!  HypnoToad   Jul-20-08 06:27 PM   #118 
  - I have no interest in seeing it either.  Fox Mulder   Jul-20-08 08:06 PM   #123 
  - hey Fox. you going to see the X Files movie?  Whisp   Jul-21-08 01:40 AM   #126 
  - " do we REALLY need another fucking Batman movie?! "  awoke_in_2003   Jul-21-08 02:04 PM   #143 
  - I think the guy is just dead wrong  gmudem   Jul-19-08 01:25 PM   #12 
  - Another scene that got me  TommyO   Jul-19-08 01:43 PM   #28 
  - Great example.  gmudem   Jul-19-08 02:09 PM   #46 
  - It had some unique things, like using cell phones for sonar  Quixote1818   Jul-19-08 01:47 PM   #32 
  - God, is he full of shit!! Typical guy who can't do, but can critique.  TexasObserver   Jul-19-08 01:28 PM   #17 
  - I use critics as a barometer.  tekisui   Jul-19-08 01:30 PM   #19 
  - I've never seen or not seen a film based upon a review.  TexasObserver   Jul-19-08 01:53 PM   #36 
  - Anti-intellectualism on a Democratic board? Interesting.  RandomKoolzip   Jul-19-08 01:34 PM   #22 
  - you have a very poor understanding of "intellectualism"  TexasObserver   Jul-19-08 01:50 PM   #33 
     - "Movie critics are idiots." Ah. Thanks, got it.  RandomKoolzip   Jul-19-08 02:01 PM   #43 
     - Like I said, you don't understand the word "intellectualism."  TexasObserver   Jul-19-08 02:12 PM   #47 
     - I paid money to see Hellboy  Dorian Gray   Jul-19-08 10:56 PM   #93 
     - 14 bucks?!?!  Snarkturian Clone   Jul-19-08 11:37 PM   #95 
     - Allow me to correct: movie critics are *individuals*.  kgfnally   Jul-20-08 12:01 AM   #99 
     - ... and they all stink  BigBearJohn   Jul-19-08 09:17 PM   #84 
  - Ai yai yai.  Codeine   Jul-19-08 01:41 PM   #27 
     - Do you always insult everyone who disagrees with your opinion of movie critics?  TexasObserver   Jul-19-08 01:55 PM   #38 
     - No insult,  Codeine   Jul-19-08 02:21 PM   #51 
        - Exactly.  RandomKoolzip   Jul-19-08 02:26 PM   #55 
        - You think Joel Segal and Michael Medved are intellectuals?!  TexasObserver   Jul-19-08 02:38 PM   #58 
        - You're mistaken. The critic denigrates art. He's not the artist.  TexasObserver   Jul-19-08 02:36 PM   #57 
           - Your absolute statements are increasingly ridiculous.  Codeine   Jul-19-08 02:57 PM   #63 
              - Sophistry fits you well.  TexasObserver   Jul-19-08 03:32 PM   #72 
                 - I can tell from the way you keep responding.  Codeine   Jul-19-08 05:04 PM   #74 
                    - There are few who can resist scratching an itch.  Occam Bandage   Jul-19-08 07:09 PM   #77 
                       - Well played! :D nt  Codeine   Jul-19-08 07:40 PM   #78 
     - That's a tad hyperbolic, don't you think?  EOTE   Jul-21-08 12:56 PM   #138 
  - I saw it yesterday. It was way to fucking long!!!!  Quixote1818   Jul-19-08 01:44 PM   #29 
  - Meanwhile SAG and AFTRA may yet go on strike  ZombyWoof   Jul-19-08 01:56 PM   #39 
  - I love the new wave of "dark" comic book movies  raouldukelives   Jul-19-08 02:08 PM   #45 
  - American Splendor and Ghost World were beautiful movies. Everyone should see them.  RandomKoolzip   Jul-19-08 02:20 PM   #50 
  - People Have a Misguided Notion of What Critics Are / Do  Crisco   Jul-19-08 02:24 PM   #53 
  - "Good taste" is subjective.  RandomKoolzip   Jul-19-08 02:28 PM   #56 
     - In Context, Not Really  Crisco   Jul-19-08 04:49 PM   #73 
  - The problem with people such as....  HannibalBarca   Jul-19-08 02:26 PM   #54 
  - Agreed. Movie critics are largely delusional narcissists whose pedantic qualities are not deserved.  TexasObserver   Jul-19-08 02:51 PM   #61 
  - But that's simply not true of Mr. Edelstein.  Codeine   Jul-19-08 03:01 PM   #64 
  - Actually, I was going to ask when someone was  tomg   Jul-20-08 08:17 AM   #106 
  - Well played!  TexasObserver   Jul-19-08 09:56 PM   #88 
  - All that should really matter to everyone is what *I* think  ResetButton   Jul-19-08 02:43 PM   #59 
  - Heh-I have to wonder how much of this is a "balehead" effect  nam78_two   Jul-19-08 02:49 PM   #60 
  - Hey! Christian Bale is a GOD!!  TexasObserver   Jul-19-08 02:54 PM   #62 
     - You won't get any argument from me  nam78_two   Jul-19-08 03:02 PM   #65 
     - I don't see films until they're out on Netflix these days.  TexasObserver   Jul-19-08 03:14 PM   #69 
     - You forgot Newsies!  gatorboy   Jul-19-08 03:07 PM   #68 
     - Upon your recommendation and other viewers at Netflix, I'll see it!  TexasObserver   Jul-19-08 03:17 PM   #70 
        - And there's always Little Women.  gatorboy   Jul-19-08 03:23 PM   #71 
     - How dare you defame the brilliance that was Reign of Fire.  EOTE   Jul-21-08 01:06 PM   #140 
        - I'm guessing Christian Bale leaves it OFF his resume!  TexasObserver   Jul-22-08 02:53 PM   #148 
  - I wonder how well this movie would have done if it had gotten no more hype  Lydia Leftcoast   Jul-19-08 03:05 PM   #67 
  - yes. the internets are a wild west saloon. but the critic is going up against more  RainDog   Jul-19-08 06:35 PM   #75 
  - I have no desire to see this. We opted for Mama Mia instead  JerseygirlCT   Jul-19-08 07:42 PM   #79 
  - Wow, he criticized a Batman movie for being a Batman movie.  Dr_eldritch   Jul-19-08 07:56 PM   #80 
  - *snort*  progressoid   Jul-19-08 08:03 PM   #81 
  - There seem to be more than a few critics..  girl gone mad   Jul-19-08 09:31 PM   #86 
  - That was a complaint I intended to--but forgot to--register.  Occam Bandage   Jul-19-08 09:53 PM   #87 
     - Yeah..  girl gone mad   Jul-19-08 10:16 PM   #89 
     - Ok, they were changed to say "gotham" in the same script, but still weren't altered much:  SemiCharmedQuark   Jul-20-08 12:14 AM   #100 
  - Sending hate mail to a movie critic for dissing a movie you liked is the lamest of the lame.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jul-19-08 10:29 PM   #90 
  - The New Yorker  Dorian Gray   Jul-19-08 10:48 PM   #92 
  - Go See It  Crisco   Jul-19-08 11:52 PM   #97 
  - meh--I find fanboys whining about critics and critics whining about fanboys both pretty tiresome  fishwax   Jul-19-08 11:14 PM   #94 
  - I Went to See It Tonight - I Have to Disagree With the Negative Critics  Crisco   Jul-19-08 11:50 PM   #96 
  - oh, I disagree with the negative critics too  fishwax   Jul-19-08 11:59 PM   #98 
  - Aint that the truth..  aikoaiko   Jul-20-08 05:32 PM   #112 
  - well i don't think it is the fault of the internet  shugah   Jul-20-08 12:25 AM   #101 
  - "Hancock" with Will Smith was good.  Perragrande   Jul-20-08 12:48 AM   #103 
  - We really liked that one but thought it too short.  knitter4democracy   Jul-20-08 09:01 AM   #108 
     - I agree. I've always liked  emmadoggy   Jul-21-08 01:19 PM   #141 
        - Jason Bateman is really a fine actor.  knitter4democracy   Jul-21-08 06:46 PM   #145 
           - he turned in a good performance in The Kingdom  TexasObserver   Jul-22-08 02:54 PM   #149 
  - What an odd set of circumstances. Warning: potential spoilers  The Backlash Cometh   Jul-20-08 06:50 AM   #105 
  - It's ignorant ...  Everybody   Jul-20-08 03:04 PM   #109 
  - Good fiction enhances reality. No escape required or wanted. Cheers.  BigBluenoser   Jul-20-08 04:52 PM   #110 
  - Sometimes I wonder if some critics are getting paid to give positive reviews to hype the average.  L0oniX   Jul-20-08 05:29 PM   #111 
  - I don't know about "daring" to do anything or "hate mail"  leftofthedial   Jul-20-08 05:36 PM   #113 
  - You Saw the Previews for the Frank Miller Stuff, Too?  Crisco   Jul-20-08 07:40 PM   #121 
     - I liked Sin City.  leftofthedial   Jul-21-08 02:00 AM   #127 
  - Oh, fuck him.  GaYellowDawg   Jul-20-08 05:37 PM   #114 
  - Hyped or not, I've been waiting for this movie since I saw Batman Begins  Hippo_Tron   Jul-20-08 06:00 PM   #115 
  - Given others comments frothing over how it parallels topical real day problems,  HypnoToad   Jul-20-08 06:25 PM   #117 
  - It was a great movie, don't listen to this TOOl. Heath Ledger will win an Oscar.  sarcasmo   Jul-20-08 06:30 PM   #119 
  - Right, but undeservedly.  Codeine   Jul-20-08 07:54 PM   #122 
     - He died for his role.  BestCenter   Jul-21-08 11:54 AM   #129 
  - it happens  Blue_Tires   Jul-20-08 06:51 PM   #120 
  - Crticism as a dying profession ...  RoyGBiv   Jul-21-08 12:32 AM   #125 
  - Forget the hype, the bottom line is this is one of the best movies I've seen in a long time.  Dbdmjs1022   Jul-21-08 02:22 AM   #128 
  - I agree..... if you didn't like this movie, it was because you were looking for a reason not to...  scheming daemons   Jul-21-08 11:59 AM   #130 
  - I watched it with a pal yesterday...  LanternWaste   Jul-21-08 12:12 PM   #131 
  - Mr. Edelstein is welcome to his opinion, indeed that's what he gets paid for.  SidneyCarton   Jul-21-08 12:15 PM   #132 
  - I agree with the critic.  Bornaginhooligan   Jul-21-08 12:40 PM   #135 
  - I was "undewhelmed" with TDK  CANDO   Jul-21-08 12:47 PM   #137 
  - I agree with David Edelstein's review. I saw The Dark Knight last night.  yardwork   Jul-22-08 02:44 PM   #146 

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