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Sat Jul-19-08 01:39 PM
Response to Reply #15 |
| -Daring to hate 'Dark Knight'; with commentary on Internet Mob Mentality |
tekisui |
Jul-19-08 01:03 PM |
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He brought the phanton menace in to this? |
DS1 |
Jul-19-08 01:05 PM |
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but Heath Ledger's dead, so it must be a classic... |
NightWatcher |
Jul-19-08 01:07 PM |
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Pink Floyd gave us proof that god walks among us in human form |
Catch22Dem |
Jul-19-08 01:18 PM |
#6 |
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Howard the Duck was awesome. |
Captain Angry |
Jul-19-08 01:20 PM |
#7 |
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whatever! |
iamthebandfanman |
Jul-19-08 02:19 PM |
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Howard the Duck STOLE their tag line from some old novels. |
Perragrande |
Jul-21-08 12:23 AM |
#124 |
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except for The Who nt |
patrice |
Jul-19-08 01:21 PM |
#8 |
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when I hear a Who song, my brain thinks that another CSI is starting, and I run away |
NightWatcher |
Jul-19-08 01:26 PM |
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CSI? |
patrice |
Jul-19-08 01:36 PM |
#23 |
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... |
Occam Bandage |
Jul-19-08 01:39 PM |
#24 |
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Thanks, I LIKE Gary Sinise, but . . . |
patrice |
Jul-19-08 01:57 PM |
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:) you I like.nt |
glitch |
Jul-19-08 10:41 PM |
#91 |
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Ledger did well, but it was not an Academy Award wining performance |
Quixote1818 |
Jul-19-08 01:53 PM |
#37 |
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I thought Ledger was fantastic, but if he wins the Oscar it will be entirely because of his death. |
Occam Bandage |
Jul-19-08 02:03 PM |
#44 |
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Might be a sympathy vote like Peter Finch in "Network", 1976. |
Perragrande |
Jul-20-08 12:43 AM |
#102 |
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Hey Peter Finch gave one of the great performances in movie history in that role |
MN Against Bush |
Jul-20-08 06:17 PM |
#116 |
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Howard the Duck is back in high-quality reprints |
MetaTrope |
Jul-20-08 05:36 AM |
#104 |
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I saw it last night and thought it was pretty good. |
Windy |
Jul-19-08 01:09 PM |
#3 |
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found his review of it for NPR's Fresh Air |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-19-08 01:10 PM |
#4 |
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How rotton of them to criticize Laura's film debut. |
notadmblnd |
Jul-19-08 01:15 PM |
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Which rather reinforces my belief that he wrote a negative review not so much because |
Occam Bandage |
Jul-19-08 01:22 PM |
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He got his name in a couple of stories..... |
tekisui |
Jul-19-08 01:24 PM |
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Either that or he honestly disliked the movie. |
RandomKoolzip |
Jul-19-08 01:27 PM |
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Which would be a possibility if not for the masturbatory self-congratulation in the OP. |
Occam Bandage |
Jul-19-08 01:33 PM |
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"Hey everybody, look at me!!" |
TexasObserver |
Jul-19-08 03:02 PM |
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I have no desire to see that fucking movie. |
RandomKoolzip |
Jul-19-08 01:24 PM |
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It's one of about 20 Action/Adventure/Comic movies to come out each Summer. |
tekisui |
Jul-19-08 01:25 PM |
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There was no CGI used in The Dark Knight. |
gmudem |
Jul-19-08 01:27 PM |
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So "no" equals "not that much"? |
RandomKoolzip |
Jul-19-08 01:30 PM |
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Yes there was. |
Codeine |
Jul-19-08 01:39 PM |
#25 |
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Well, both are correct-ish. |
Occam Bandage |
Jul-19-08 01:44 PM |
#30 |
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Well, then that pretty clearly means |
Codeine |
Jul-19-08 01:52 PM |
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Oh, certainly. It was a wrong statement countering a wrong statement, but |
Occam Bandage |
Jul-19-08 02:00 PM |
#42 |
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There's no water in the glass at all! |
Codeine |
Jul-19-08 02:23 PM |
#52 |
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I wouldn't characterize the CGI on Harvey Dent as "unobtrusive." |
yardwork |
Jul-22-08 02:48 PM |
#147 |
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Memo: using the word "fail" |
Terran |
Jul-21-08 12:58 PM |
#139 |
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Couple points. |
Occam Bandage |
Jul-19-08 01:31 PM |
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I have no desire to see that movie because it's exactly like 99% of all the movies |
RandomKoolzip |
Jul-19-08 01:41 PM |
#26 |
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Well you're missing out on a great movie. |
gmudem |
Jul-19-08 01:45 PM |
#31 |
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Well, I sure ain't missing out on the hype! |
RandomKoolzip |
Jul-19-08 01:51 PM |
#34 |
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"I know this because I've seen the commercials!" |
Occam Bandage |
Jul-19-08 01:58 PM |
#41 |
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Oh, here we go again.... |
RandomKoolzip |
Jul-19-08 02:18 PM |
#48 |
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"Forgetting Sarah Marshall" |
ProudToBeBlueInRhody |
Jul-19-08 06:50 PM |
#76 |
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Not all film is high art. Sometimes it's just plain entertainment. |
Lisa0825 |
Jul-19-08 08:13 PM |
#82 |
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You go in thinking it's going to suck, and you're shocked when it does? |
IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge |
Jul-21-08 12:22 PM |
#133 |
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Sure! Well, first off, there's "Local Hero," then there's "Nashvi-" Oh wait...you're being sarcastic |
RandomKoolzip |
Jul-21-08 12:38 PM |
#134 |
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But, seriously, what makes a movie good? |
IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge |
Jul-21-08 01:27 PM |
#142 |
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Honestly? My subjective criteria: Rule no. 1: no superheroes. |
RandomKoolzip |
Jul-21-08 02:17 PM |
#144 |
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FSM was a good movie. |
EOTE |
Jul-21-08 12:46 PM |
#136 |
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The "brou-ha-ha" was there when the first one came out, but thats besides the point |
rch35 |
Jul-19-08 08:50 PM |
#83 |
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I'm with you, Random. |
loudsue |
Jul-19-08 09:26 PM |
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Of all the Batman movies I've seen, this version is the best. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Jul-20-08 08:53 AM |
#107 |
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*DING* *DING* *DING* You hit the nail on the head! |
HypnoToad |
Jul-20-08 06:27 PM |
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I have no interest in seeing it either. |
Fox Mulder |
Jul-20-08 08:06 PM |
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hey Fox. you going to see the X Files movie? |
Whisp |
Jul-21-08 01:40 AM |
#126 |
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" do we REALLY need another fucking Batman movie?! " |
awoke_in_2003 |
Jul-21-08 02:04 PM |
#143 |
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I think the guy is just dead wrong |
gmudem |
Jul-19-08 01:25 PM |
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Another scene that got me |
TommyO |
Jul-19-08 01:43 PM |
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Great example. |
gmudem |
Jul-19-08 02:09 PM |
#46 |
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It had some unique things, like using cell phones for sonar |
Quixote1818 |
Jul-19-08 01:47 PM |
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God, is he full of shit!! Typical guy who can't do, but can critique. |
TexasObserver |
Jul-19-08 01:28 PM |
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I use critics as a barometer. |
tekisui |
Jul-19-08 01:30 PM |
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I've never seen or not seen a film based upon a review. |
TexasObserver |
Jul-19-08 01:53 PM |
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Anti-intellectualism on a Democratic board? Interesting. |
RandomKoolzip |
Jul-19-08 01:34 PM |
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you have a very poor understanding of "intellectualism" |
TexasObserver |
Jul-19-08 01:50 PM |
#33 |
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"Movie critics are idiots." Ah. Thanks, got it. |
RandomKoolzip |
Jul-19-08 02:01 PM |
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Like I said, you don't understand the word "intellectualism." |
TexasObserver |
Jul-19-08 02:12 PM |
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I paid money to see Hellboy |
Dorian Gray |
Jul-19-08 10:56 PM |
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14 bucks?!?! |
Snarkturian Clone |
Jul-19-08 11:37 PM |
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Allow me to correct: movie critics are *individuals*. |
kgfnally |
Jul-20-08 12:01 AM |
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... and they all stink |
BigBearJohn |
Jul-19-08 09:17 PM |
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Ai yai yai. |
Codeine |
Jul-19-08 01:41 PM |
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Do you always insult everyone who disagrees with your opinion of movie critics? |
TexasObserver |
Jul-19-08 01:55 PM |
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No insult, |
Codeine |
Jul-19-08 02:21 PM |
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Exactly. |
RandomKoolzip |
Jul-19-08 02:26 PM |
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You think Joel Segal and Michael Medved are intellectuals?! |
TexasObserver |
Jul-19-08 02:38 PM |
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You're mistaken. The critic denigrates art. He's not the artist. |
TexasObserver |
Jul-19-08 02:36 PM |
#57 |
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Your absolute statements are increasingly ridiculous. |
Codeine |
Jul-19-08 02:57 PM |
#63 |
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Sophistry fits you well. |
TexasObserver |
Jul-19-08 03:32 PM |
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I can tell from the way you keep responding. |
Codeine |
Jul-19-08 05:04 PM |
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There are few who can resist scratching an itch. |
Occam Bandage |
Jul-19-08 07:09 PM |
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Well played! :D nt |
Codeine |
Jul-19-08 07:40 PM |
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That's a tad hyperbolic, don't you think? |
EOTE |
Jul-21-08 12:56 PM |
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I saw it yesterday. It was way to fucking long!!!! |
Quixote1818 |
Jul-19-08 01:44 PM |
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Meanwhile SAG and AFTRA may yet go on strike |
ZombyWoof |
Jul-19-08 01:56 PM |
#39 |
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I love the new wave of "dark" comic book movies |
raouldukelives |
Jul-19-08 02:08 PM |
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American Splendor and Ghost World were beautiful movies. Everyone should see them. |
RandomKoolzip |
Jul-19-08 02:20 PM |
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People Have a Misguided Notion of What Critics Are / Do |
Crisco |
Jul-19-08 02:24 PM |
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"Good taste" is subjective. |
RandomKoolzip |
Jul-19-08 02:28 PM |
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In Context, Not Really |
Crisco |
Jul-19-08 04:49 PM |
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The problem with people such as.... |
HannibalBarca |
Jul-19-08 02:26 PM |
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Agreed. Movie critics are largely delusional narcissists whose pedantic qualities are not deserved. |
TexasObserver |
Jul-19-08 02:51 PM |
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But that's simply not true of Mr. Edelstein. |
Codeine |
Jul-19-08 03:01 PM |
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Actually, I was going to ask when someone was |
tomg |
Jul-20-08 08:17 AM |
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Well played! |
TexasObserver |
Jul-19-08 09:56 PM |
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All that should really matter to everyone is what *I* think |
ResetButton |
Jul-19-08 02:43 PM |
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Heh-I have to wonder how much of this is a "balehead" effect |
nam78_two |
Jul-19-08 02:49 PM |
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Hey! Christian Bale is a GOD!! |
TexasObserver |
Jul-19-08 02:54 PM |
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You won't get any argument from me |
nam78_two |
Jul-19-08 03:02 PM |
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I don't see films until they're out on Netflix these days. |
TexasObserver |
Jul-19-08 03:14 PM |
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You forgot Newsies! |
gatorboy |
Jul-19-08 03:07 PM |
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Upon your recommendation and other viewers at Netflix, I'll see it! |
TexasObserver |
Jul-19-08 03:17 PM |
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And there's always Little Women. |
gatorboy |
Jul-19-08 03:23 PM |
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How dare you defame the brilliance that was Reign of Fire. |
EOTE |
Jul-21-08 01:06 PM |
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I'm guessing Christian Bale leaves it OFF his resume! |
TexasObserver |
Jul-22-08 02:53 PM |
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I wonder how well this movie would have done if it had gotten no more hype |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Jul-19-08 03:05 PM |
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yes. the internets are a wild west saloon. but the critic is going up against more |
RainDog |
Jul-19-08 06:35 PM |
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I have no desire to see this. We opted for Mama Mia instead |
JerseygirlCT |
Jul-19-08 07:42 PM |
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Wow, he criticized a Batman movie for being a Batman movie. |
Dr_eldritch |
Jul-19-08 07:56 PM |
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*snort* |
progressoid |
Jul-19-08 08:03 PM |
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There seem to be more than a few critics.. |
girl gone mad |
Jul-19-08 09:31 PM |
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That was a complaint I intended to--but forgot to--register. |
Occam Bandage |
Jul-19-08 09:53 PM |
#87 |
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Yeah.. |
girl gone mad |
Jul-19-08 10:16 PM |
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Ok, they were changed to say "gotham" in the same script, but still weren't altered much: |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Jul-20-08 12:14 AM |
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Sending hate mail to a movie critic for dissing a movie you liked is the lamest of the lame. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Jul-19-08 10:29 PM |
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The New Yorker |
Dorian Gray |
Jul-19-08 10:48 PM |
#92 |
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Go See It |
Crisco |
Jul-19-08 11:52 PM |
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meh--I find fanboys whining about critics and critics whining about fanboys both pretty tiresome |
fishwax |
Jul-19-08 11:14 PM |
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I Went to See It Tonight - I Have to Disagree With the Negative Critics |
Crisco |
Jul-19-08 11:50 PM |
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oh, I disagree with the negative critics too |
fishwax |
Jul-19-08 11:59 PM |
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Aint that the truth.. |
aikoaiko |
Jul-20-08 05:32 PM |
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well i don't think it is the fault of the internet |
shugah |
Jul-20-08 12:25 AM |
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"Hancock" with Will Smith was good. |
Perragrande |
Jul-20-08 12:48 AM |
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We really liked that one but thought it too short. |
knitter4democracy |
Jul-20-08 09:01 AM |
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I agree. I've always liked |
emmadoggy |
Jul-21-08 01:19 PM |
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Jason Bateman is really a fine actor. |
knitter4democracy |
Jul-21-08 06:46 PM |
#145 |
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he turned in a good performance in The Kingdom |
TexasObserver |
Jul-22-08 02:54 PM |
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What an odd set of circumstances. Warning: potential spoilers |
The Backlash Cometh |
Jul-20-08 06:50 AM |
#105 |
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It's ignorant ... |
Everybody |
Jul-20-08 03:04 PM |
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Good fiction enhances reality. No escape required or wanted. Cheers. |
BigBluenoser |
Jul-20-08 04:52 PM |
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Sometimes I wonder if some critics are getting paid to give positive reviews to hype the average. |
L0oniX |
Jul-20-08 05:29 PM |
#111 |
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I don't know about "daring" to do anything or "hate mail" |
leftofthedial |
Jul-20-08 05:36 PM |
#113 |
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You Saw the Previews for the Frank Miller Stuff, Too? |
Crisco |
Jul-20-08 07:40 PM |
#121 |
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I liked Sin City. |
leftofthedial |
Jul-21-08 02:00 AM |
#127 |
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Oh, fuck him. |
GaYellowDawg |
Jul-20-08 05:37 PM |
#114 |
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Hyped or not, I've been waiting for this movie since I saw Batman Begins |
Hippo_Tron |
Jul-20-08 06:00 PM |
#115 |
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Given others comments frothing over how it parallels topical real day problems, |
HypnoToad |
Jul-20-08 06:25 PM |
#117 |
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It was a great movie, don't listen to this TOOl. Heath Ledger will win an Oscar. |
sarcasmo |
Jul-20-08 06:30 PM |
#119 |
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Right, but undeservedly. |
Codeine |
Jul-20-08 07:54 PM |
#122 |
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He died for his role. |
BestCenter |
Jul-21-08 11:54 AM |
#129 |
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it happens |
Blue_Tires |
Jul-20-08 06:51 PM |
#120 |
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Crticism as a dying profession ... |
RoyGBiv |
Jul-21-08 12:32 AM |
#125 |
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Forget the hype, the bottom line is this is one of the best movies I've seen in a long time. |
Dbdmjs1022 |
Jul-21-08 02:22 AM |
#128 |
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I agree..... if you didn't like this movie, it was because you were looking for a reason not to... |
scheming daemons |
Jul-21-08 11:59 AM |
#130 |
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I watched it with a pal yesterday... |
LanternWaste |
Jul-21-08 12:12 PM |
#131 |
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Mr. Edelstein is welcome to his opinion, indeed that's what he gets paid for. |
SidneyCarton |
Jul-21-08 12:15 PM |
#132 |
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I agree with the critic. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jul-21-08 12:40 PM |
#135 |
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I was "undewhelmed" with TDK |
CANDO |
Jul-21-08 12:47 PM |
#137 |
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I agree with David Edelstein's review. I saw The Dark Knight last night. |
yardwork |
Jul-22-08 02:44 PM |
#146 |
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