Mike L
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Thu Jul-17-08 01:48 PM
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| 16. Obama says DC ban was illegal all along...... |
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From NY Sun...
"Contrary to his previous announcements: Mr. Obama now favors capital punishment, if not for murderers, at least for child rapists; he now thinks maintaining a mother's mental health is no reason for an abortion; far from poking fun at those who "cling to guns," he now says he thinks the Washington D.C., handgun ban was illegal all along; far from sneering at those who "cling to religion," he has cozied up to evangelical Christians and encouraged "faith based initiatives;" he now believes public campaign financing is too flawed to accept; he now thinks it rash to take tea with the world's tyrants without "preparations."
Most important of all, at least to his battalions of young volunteers, he is now not sure he can order a couple of brigades’ home from Iraq safely every month. His previous position, that he would tell the top brass to proceed with a total withdrawal from Iraq with immediate effect, is to be "revised." "
I like Obama's new positions, except for Iraq. I'm still for an immediate withdrawal of all US troops. I don't like sucking up to the fundies though.
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| -DC residents can start applying for gun permits |
Squatch |
Jul-17-08 06:51 AM |
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They could always get on the subway and buy them in MD and VA. |
MookieWilson |
Jul-17-08 06:58 AM |
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No they shouldn't |
ThomWV |
Jul-17-08 07:16 AM |
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I'm of the opinion that the Bill of Rights does not "allow" citizens anything |
Squatch |
Jul-17-08 07:34 AM |
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Actually, it was misspelled in the CONSTITUTION, |
DailyGrind51 |
Jul-17-08 07:41 AM |
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Agreed. Flintlocks in a well regulated militia. |
MookieWilson |
Jul-17-08 10:34 AM |
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I do not believe that you have read the actual Amendment. |
Dimensio0 |
Jul-17-08 12:35 PM |
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Have you read the actual Amendment? |
baldguy |
Jul-17-08 01:34 PM |
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Well, that was true before Scalia's decision. Now hunting and self-defense |
Mike L |
Jul-17-08 01:52 PM |
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You have not demonstrated that "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" |
Dimensio0 |
Jul-17-08 09:04 PM |
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Thats the whole point of the Amendment. |
baldguy |
Jul-17-08 11:20 PM |
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Then you should be able to cite factual justification of your position. |
Dimensio0 |
Jul-18-08 07:56 AM |
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Again: have you read the actual Amendment? |
baldguy |
Jul-18-08 08:47 AM |
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The first part explains why it is important for the nation that the people have the RKBA |
slackmaster |
Jul-18-08 08:49 AM |
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So, the necessity for national security is just a hook to hang your right to fuck your gun? |
baldguy |
Jul-18-08 01:16 PM |
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Security of the state includes security of communities, neighborhoods, families, and individuals |
slackmaster |
Jul-18-08 01:25 PM |
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The collective right to security requires a collective responsibility to ensure it. |
baldguy |
Jul-18-08 01:34 PM |
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The state militia system is still alive but that's beside the point because it's an individual right |
slackmaster |
Jul-18-08 02:03 PM |
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I have, in fact, read the amendment. |
Dimensio0 |
Jul-18-08 02:37 PM |
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We have a right to What? |
One_Life_To_Give |
Jul-18-08 02:26 PM |
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No radio or TV mentioned in the Constitution, either. |
Ikonoklast |
Jul-17-08 01:20 PM |
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Be careful being a literalist though, English may significantly evolve in the coming centuries |
wuushew |
Jul-17-08 01:07 PM |
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Ummm bear arms. Yummy. I like bear ass also. n/t |
LibFromWV |
Jul-18-08 09:11 AM |
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And you, a wooden printing press (nt) |
SteveM |
Jul-17-08 12:58 PM |
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Right,,,, as if rights are technology bound. Do you think the 1st doesn't protect digital speech? |
aikoaiko |
Jul-17-08 01:08 PM |
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Yup. And if they want to exercise their First Amendment rights, |
benEzra |
Jul-17-08 04:09 PM |
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I hope the bad guys don't get guns now. |
texasleo |
Jul-17-08 10:55 AM |
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Yeah, the bad guys were waiting for it to be legal |
wvbygod |
Jul-17-08 11:25 AM |
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Uh, you might want to re-think your hopes. They already have them (nt) |
SteveM |
Jul-17-08 01:00 PM |
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Yeah, felons are going to be lining up for background checks in police stations |
NickB79 |
Jul-17-08 11:46 PM |
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A gun permit in DC should be like a marijuana tax stamp. |
baldguy |
Jul-17-08 01:01 PM |
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Why "should"? (n/t) |
benEzra |
Jul-17-08 04:12 PM |
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Your analogy is interesting. |
Dimensio0 |
Jul-17-08 09:07 PM |
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lol at the spelling |
Blue_Tires |
Jul-18-08 09:05 AM |
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Obama says DC ban was illegal all along...... |
Mike L |
Jul-17-08 01:48 PM |
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Mr. AdBot, I thought you were going to say...... |
Mike L |
Jul-17-08 02:10 PM |
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Heller denied again in DC |
michreject |
Jul-18-08 09:17 AM |
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The DC city council is comprised of idiots and powermongers |
wvbygod |
Jul-18-08 10:17 AM |
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I guess their interpretation of their job is to protect their citizens. |
baldguy |
Jul-18-08 01:27 PM |
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Forcing a citizen to be unarmed against predators is NOT protection |
wvbygod |
Jul-18-08 02:20 PM |
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If Semi's a grouped with MG's DC owes us big bucks |
One_Life_To_Give |
Jul-18-08 02:33 PM |
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You can apply but you can't ever register... |
spin |
Jul-18-08 02:59 PM |
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