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Mike L Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 01:48 PM
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16. Obama says DC ban was illegal all along......
From NY Sun...

"Contrary to his previous announcements: Mr. Obama now favors capital punishment, if not for murderers, at least for child rapists; he now thinks maintaining a mother's mental health is no reason for an abortion; far from poking fun at those who "cling to guns," he now says he thinks the Washington D.C., handgun ban was illegal all along; far from sneering at those who "cling to religion," he has cozied up to evangelical Christians and encouraged "faith based initiatives;" he now believes public campaign financing is too flawed to accept; he now thinks it rash to take tea with the world's tyrants without "preparations."

Most important of all, at least to his battalions of young volunteers, he is now not sure he can order a couple of brigades’ home from Iraq safely every month. His previous position, that he would tell the top brass to proceed with a total withdrawal from Iraq with immediate effect, is to be "revised." "


I like Obama's new positions, except for Iraq. I'm still for an immediate withdrawal of all US troops. I don't like sucking up to the fundies though.


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  -DC residents can start applying for gun permits Squatch  Jul-17-08 06:51 AM   #0 
  - They could always get on the subway and buy them in MD and VA.  MookieWilson   Jul-17-08 06:58 AM   #1 
  - No they shouldn't  ThomWV   Jul-17-08 07:16 AM   #2 
  - I'm of the opinion that the Bill of Rights does not "allow" citizens anything  Squatch   Jul-17-08 07:34 AM   #3 
  - Actually, it was misspelled in the CONSTITUTION,  DailyGrind51   Jul-17-08 07:41 AM   #4 
  - Agreed. Flintlocks in a well regulated militia.  MookieWilson   Jul-17-08 10:34 AM   #5 
  - I do not believe that you have read the actual Amendment.  Dimensio0   Jul-17-08 12:35 PM   #8 
  - Have you read the actual Amendment?  baldguy   Jul-17-08 01:34 PM   #15 
     - Well, that was true before Scalia's decision. Now hunting and self-defense  Mike L   Jul-17-08 01:52 PM   #17 
     - You have not demonstrated that "the right of the people to keep and bear arms"  Dimensio0   Jul-17-08 09:04 PM   #21 
        - Thats the whole point of the Amendment.  baldguy   Jul-17-08 11:20 PM   #23 
           - Then you should be able to cite factual justification of your position.  Dimensio0   Jul-18-08 07:56 AM   #25 
           - Again: have you read the actual Amendment?  baldguy   Jul-18-08 08:47 AM   #26 
              - The first part explains why it is important for the nation that the people have the RKBA  slackmaster   Jul-18-08 08:49 AM   #27 
              - So, the necessity for national security is just a hook to hang your right to fuck your gun?  baldguy   Jul-18-08 01:16 PM   #32 
                 - Security of the state includes security of communities, neighborhoods, families, and individuals  slackmaster   Jul-18-08 01:25 PM   #33 
                    - The collective right to security requires a collective responsibility to ensure it.  baldguy   Jul-18-08 01:34 PM   #35 
                       - The state militia system is still alive but that's beside the point because it's an individual right  slackmaster   Jul-18-08 02:03 PM   #36 
              - I have, in fact, read the amendment.  Dimensio0   Jul-18-08 02:37 PM   #40 
           - We have a right to What?  One_Life_To_Give   Jul-18-08 02:26 PM   #38 
  - No radio or TV mentioned in the Constitution, either.  Ikonoklast   Jul-17-08 01:20 PM   #14 
  - Be careful being a literalist though, English may significantly evolve in the coming centuries  wuushew   Jul-17-08 01:07 PM   #12 
  - Ummm bear arms. Yummy. I like bear ass also. n/t  LibFromWV   Jul-18-08 09:11 AM   #29 
  - And you, a wooden printing press (nt)  SteveM   Jul-17-08 12:58 PM   #9 
  - Right,,,, as if rights are technology bound. Do you think the 1st doesn't protect digital speech?  aikoaiko   Jul-17-08 01:08 PM   #13 
  - Yup. And if they want to exercise their First Amendment rights,  benEzra   Jul-17-08 04:09 PM   #19 
  - I hope the bad guys don't get guns now.  texasleo   Jul-17-08 10:55 AM   #6 
  - Yeah, the bad guys were waiting for it to be legal  wvbygod   Jul-17-08 11:25 AM   #7 
  - Uh, you might want to re-think your hopes. They already have them (nt)  SteveM   Jul-17-08 01:00 PM   #10 
  - Yeah, felons are going to be lining up for background checks in police stations  NickB79   Jul-17-08 11:46 PM   #24 
  - A gun permit in DC should be like a marijuana tax stamp.  baldguy   Jul-17-08 01:01 PM   #11 
  - Why "should"? (n/t)  benEzra   Jul-17-08 04:12 PM   #20 
  - Your analogy is interesting.  Dimensio0   Jul-17-08 09:07 PM   #22 
  - lol at the spelling  Blue_Tires   Jul-18-08 09:05 AM   #28 
  - Obama says DC ban was illegal all along......  Mike L   Jul-17-08 01:48 PM   #16 
  - Mr. AdBot, I thought you were going to say......  Mike L   Jul-17-08 02:10 PM   #18 
  - Heller denied again in DC  michreject   Jul-18-08 09:17 AM   #30 
  - The DC city council is comprised of idiots and powermongers  wvbygod   Jul-18-08 10:17 AM   #31 
  - I guess their interpretation of their job is to protect their citizens.  baldguy   Jul-18-08 01:27 PM   #34 
     - Forcing a citizen to be unarmed against predators is NOT protection  wvbygod   Jul-18-08 02:20 PM   #37 
  - If Semi's a grouped with MG's DC owes us big bucks  One_Life_To_Give   Jul-18-08 02:33 PM   #39 
  - You can apply but you can't ever register...  spin   Jul-18-08 02:59 PM   #41 
 

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