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58. The Counterculture Was All Over the Place
The thing that held it together was opposition to conventional middle-class lifestyle and politics. And what ultimately broke it apart was its partial absorption into the mainstream. Not that that was a bad thing.

Whenever a movement is defined negatively, it can be a little hard to get a grasp on. Politically, the common thread was pacifism. Socially, the most common threads were being present oriented, seeking pleasure, avoiding societal power, developing meaningful personal relationships, and taking personal control over the material details of life (natural food, crafts, conservation, etc). Spiritually, the theme was pretty much anything other than the mainstream Christian church.

But ultimately it's a Rorschach blotch. Everyone has a different understanding.
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  -What were the hippies right about (My new t-shirt The Hippies Were Right) graywarrior  Jul-13-08 12:14 PM   #0 
  - ..  skooooo   Jul-13-08 12:15 PM   #1 
  - Xactly  graywarrior   Jul-13-08 12:18 PM   #7 
  - Here's what the "hippies" were right about - And said PERFECTLY!!  LaPera   Jul-13-08 11:22 PM   #115 
  - Remembering what we used to do for peace  madokie   Jul-14-08 07:17 AM   #118 
  - War is NOT the answer.  Liberal Veteran   Jul-13-08 12:16 PM   #2 
  - All those!  Maat   Jul-13-08 12:18 PM   #6 
  - They were right about 'war.'  Maat   Jul-13-08 12:16 PM   #3 
  - War, peace. love, and the best music ever.  faygokid   Jul-13-08 12:16 PM   #4 
  - Bell bottoms are great...unless they are on a Brady.  Liberal Veteran   Jul-13-08 12:19 PM   #13 
  - Ha ha...or any early 70's detective on tv  graywarrior   Jul-13-08 12:56 PM   #44 
  - I Have a Batch of Fresh TieDyes Setting Out on the Patio  AndyTiedye   Jul-13-08 01:11 PM   #53 
  - peace, civil rights, rejecting materialism, sex, pot  Radical Activist   Jul-13-08 12:17 PM   #5 
  - Indeed .... n/t!  Maat   Jul-13-08 12:18 PM   #9 
  - Hard drugs happened.  tridim   Jul-13-08 12:21 PM   #15 
  - So many of us went from  gateley   Jul-13-08 12:45 PM   #32 
  - It is a pattern I have noticed  conscious evolution   Jul-13-08 01:16 PM   #57 
     - It was certainly a "mission accomplished" moment for Nixon.  tridim   Jul-13-08 01:41 PM   #74 
  - I don't think society in general was ready for it  ayeshahaqqiqa   Jul-13-08 12:30 PM   #21 
  - Well....  jobycom   Jul-13-08 12:33 PM   #23 
  - Nixon and a bunch of bitter old suburbanites happened  Warpy   Jul-13-08 01:09 PM   #52 
     - Flag burning didn't help either...  skooooo   Jul-13-08 01:13 PM   #55 
     - Funny, I was a political hippie and in the thick of it  Warpy   Jul-13-08 01:25 PM   #63 
     - Fashion is for suckers...  Fumesucker   Jul-13-08 01:49 PM   #80 
        - That's very true.  tridim   Jul-13-08 02:06 PM   #89 
           - me too..  skooooo   Jul-13-08 03:00 PM   #97 
  - Haha, I'm wearing that same shirt right now...  Concerned GA Voter   Jul-13-08 12:18 PM   #8 
  - Ha! the conservative rednecks in NH would drool over that  graywarrior   Jul-13-08 12:19 PM   #11 
     - rednecks in NH?  Radical Activist   Jul-13-08 01:12 PM   #54 
        - Northern NH, on the Maine border  graywarrior   Jul-13-08 01:38 PM   #72 
  - pollution. environmentalism. organic gardening. (n/t)  kenzee13   Jul-13-08 12:18 PM   #10 
  - Corporations are evil. Plastic people suck. Down with the establishment.  L0oniX   Jul-13-08 12:19 PM   #12 
  - Not to take the brown acid.  Crabby Appleton   Jul-13-08 12:20 PM   #14 
  - I'm trying to think of something profound. I'm coming up short.  laststeamtrain   Jul-13-08 12:22 PM   #16 
  - The Man is a liar. It's all designed to make you a slave.  jobycom   Jul-13-08 12:26 PM   #17 
  - Cooperation and communities  ayeshahaqqiqa   Jul-13-08 12:29 PM   #18 
  - greetings  World Citizen   Jul-13-08 12:50 PM   #38 
  - Salaams to you as well n/t  ayeshahaqqiqa   Jul-13-08 12:53 PM   #41 
  - Sufi Sam! I remember him.  laststeamtrain   Jul-13-08 01:29 PM   #70 
  - they were right about...  World Citizen   Jul-13-08 12:29 PM   #19 
  - Oh oh, I just found something that would stun them!  graywarrior   Jul-13-08 12:29 PM   #20 
  - Actually, I don't think it would  ayeshahaqqiqa   Jul-13-08 12:35 PM   #26 
  - We were right (on) about everything!  Webster Green   Jul-13-08 12:31 PM   #22 
  - I remember some of it.  graywarrior   Jul-13-08 12:33 PM   #24 
     - Dharma Bums is a book by Jack Keruoac.  skooooo   Jul-13-08 12:35 PM   #25 
        - It's so sad that we can't ever do what Jack did  graywarrior   Jul-13-08 12:40 PM   #30 
           - Thank God we have been doing it all these years- the idea that it may be over  eowyn_of_rohan   Jul-14-08 07:55 AM   #120 
  - Hippies derived a lot of their ideas from the Beats.  skooooo   Jul-13-08 12:36 PM   #27 
  - True. But beats were exclusive. Hippies loved everyone.  graywarrior   Jul-13-08 12:39 PM   #28 
     - People are people.  skooooo   Jul-13-08 12:40 PM   #29 
        - I make shit up.  graywarrior   Jul-13-08 12:41 PM   #31 
           - lol...  skooooo   Jul-13-08 12:48 PM   #35 
  - Communal living, nutritious food, yoga, meditation  JanMichael   Jul-13-08 12:45 PM   #33 
  - THAT is the line of the day! ! ! ! ! !  graywarrior   Jul-13-08 12:47 PM   #34 
  - What weren't they right about?  skooooo   Jul-13-08 12:50 PM   #37 
     - Define "free love."  JanMichael   Jul-13-08 01:14 PM   #56 
        - Free love...  skooooo   Jul-13-08 01:22 PM   #61 
  - Make Love, Not War. nt  gateley   Jul-13-08 12:48 PM   #36 
  - Everything except the bad hair thing.  sfexpat2000   Jul-13-08 12:51 PM   #39 
  - The hair thing still has a hold on me  graywarrior   Jul-13-08 12:53 PM   #42 
  - Frank made fun of Hippies all the time  Canuckistanian   Jul-13-08 01:19 PM   #59 
     - He scared the shit out of me  graywarrior   Jul-13-08 01:40 PM   #73 
     - That was the whole theoretical underpinning, though.  sfexpat2000   Jul-13-08 02:00 PM   #86 
        - I had one of those in my room...  skooooo   Jul-13-08 02:59 PM   #96 
           - My mom thought a bag of peppermint tea I left on the counter was pot.  sfexpat2000   Jul-13-08 03:03 PM   #99 
              - My brother went to great lengths ..  skooooo   Jul-13-08 03:06 PM   #101 
  - HEY!  orleans   Jul-13-08 01:29 PM   #69 
     - You want to see disturbing?!  sfexpat2000   Jul-13-08 01:52 PM   #82 
        - That conservative-looking Frank...  Concerned GA Voter   Jul-13-08 02:55 PM   #94 
        - god, i loved that man. n/t  orleans   Jul-13-08 03:06 PM   #100 
  - War is not healthy for children and other living things  Taverner   Jul-13-08 12:52 PM   #40 
  - They were the ultimate grass roots activists.  mexicoxpat   Jul-13-08 12:54 PM   #43 
  - literally changed our society  skooooo   Jul-13-08 12:57 PM   #45 
     - Guess ya had to live through it.  mexicoxpat   Jul-13-08 01:25 PM   #65 
     - Well...  skooooo   Jul-13-08 01:28 PM   #67 
        - Maybe the Civil Rights Movement could be dated from  sfexpat2000   Jul-13-08 01:46 PM   #76 
           - That's true, I'll give them that..  skooooo   Jul-13-08 01:50 PM   #81 
              - Hippies were more a social movement where the Beats were  sfexpat2000   Jul-13-08 02:04 PM   #87 
     - Organic farming  SpiralHawk   Jul-13-08 02:47 PM   #93 
        - That's probaby true..  skooooo   Jul-13-08 02:57 PM   #95 
           - Yes, because petro-chemical corporate-industrial farming is perhaps the world's  SpiralHawk   Jul-13-08 04:40 PM   #108 
  - Saving the planet, getting back to the earth, organic farming, etc  livetohike   Jul-13-08 12:59 PM   #46 
  - The hippies co-opted the peace movement  arcadian   Jul-13-08 01:00 PM   #47 
  - Cooperative is better than competitive (even the corporations figured that much out).  greyhound1966   Jul-13-08 01:01 PM   #48 
  - "Hippie" is kind of a catch-all term used to label any member  DailyGrind51   Jul-13-08 01:02 PM   #49 
  - That's what I'm saying....  skooooo   Jul-13-08 01:03 PM   #51 
  - "hippie" is a convenience label...  World Citizen   Jul-13-08 01:28 PM   #68 
  - If hippie is a convenience label..  skooooo   Jul-13-08 01:37 PM   #71 
  - Did someone say "everything about the 60s worked"?  Lex   Jul-13-08 01:47 PM   #77 
     - Just adding some perspective...  skooooo   Jul-13-08 01:53 PM   #83 
  - The phrases "Tune in" and "Turn on" were coined by Dr. Timothy Leary,  DailyGrind51   Jul-13-08 03:03 PM   #98 
     - really?  World Citizen   Jul-13-08 03:58 PM   #106 
        - Follow this link!  DailyGrind51   Jul-14-08 08:10 AM   #122 
           - No google link by itself can substitute for experience.  World Citizen   Jul-14-08 10:17 AM   #127 
  - It's more helpful to the peace movement than going to Viet Nam.  sfexpat2000   Jul-13-08 01:49 PM   #79 
  - There were plenty of experiments in communal living  sfexpat2000   Jul-13-08 01:48 PM   #78 
     - A lot of them got their ideas from Tolstoy.  skooooo   Jul-13-08 01:53 PM   #84 
  - Peace, Love, Music, the Kind, Practically Everything  AndyTiedye   Jul-13-08 01:03 PM   #50 
  - The Counterculture Was All Over the Place  ribofunk   Jul-13-08 01:17 PM   #58 
  - Not a new idea.  baldguy   Jul-13-08 01:22 PM   #60 
  - Turn on. Tune in. Drop out. NT  fiziwig   Jul-13-08 01:24 PM   #62 
  - Everything..?  madmom   Jul-13-08 01:25 PM   #64 
  - Never Trust Anyone over 30 ..... n/t  kevinmc   Jul-13-08 01:27 PM   #66 
  - Off the top of my head: Peace, Organic Foods, Meditation, Solar Power, Yoga, Going Green,  Lex   Jul-13-08 01:45 PM   #75 
  - An article (link)  Lex   Jul-13-08 01:57 PM   #85 
  - War is not healthy for women and small children.  kentuck   Jul-13-08 02:05 PM   #88 
  - i think the basic formula was peace and love n/t  orleans   Jul-13-08 02:35 PM   #90 
  - If the "hippies" didn't raise hell and protest Viet Nam would probably still be in play....  Imagevision   Jul-13-08 02:40 PM   #91 
  - We didn't get out until 1974 or later.  skooooo   Jul-13-08 02:41 PM   #92 
  - The "hippies" were not activists, they were drop-outs!  DailyGrind51   Jul-13-08 03:14 PM   #102 
     - We need to find a better way of talking about the 60s.  skooooo   Jul-13-08 03:16 PM   #103 
     - If it hadn't been for the Vietnam War, the '60s might have been  DailyGrind51   Jul-14-08 08:31 AM   #123 
     - No, Hell's Angels had long hair and beards, too.  graywarrior   Jul-13-08 10:08 PM   #113 
     - Try calling one of those guys a "hippie"!  DailyGrind51   Jul-14-08 08:33 AM   #125 
     - We didn't drop out  conscious evolution   Jul-14-08 06:54 AM   #117 
  - Peace. Love. Understanding.  Octafish   Jul-13-08 03:18 PM   #104 
  - What was the question?  omega minimo   Jul-13-08 03:27 PM   #105 
  - They were right about The Man.  Chovexani   Jul-13-08 04:00 PM   #107 
  - Not only that -- Stick it to him!  Oregonian   Jul-13-08 04:42 PM   #109 
     - Right on  Chovexani   Jul-13-08 05:25 PM   #110 
     - and run off with his daughter!  Blue_Tires   Jul-14-08 08:03 AM   #121 
  - "Dope will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no dope  librechik   Jul-13-08 05:45 PM   #111 
  - Hippies??? What the hell are hippies?? n/t  retread   Jul-13-08 07:07 PM   #112 
  - Anyhow, I'm wearing my new t-shirt when I get my license picture taken tomorrow  graywarrior   Jul-13-08 10:09 PM   #114 
  - Once again, If this doesn't help you....well....  LaPera   Jul-13-08 11:28 PM   #116 
     - Well, that's the whole enchilada!  graywarrior   Jul-14-08 07:43 AM   #119 
  - Four words: "peace, love, and understanding"  RedShoes   Jul-14-08 08:32 AM   #124 
  - It isn't an idea hippies created but certainly one they agreed with  harun   Jul-14-08 08:35 AM   #126 
 

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